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dragonlady_mothman
Looking up Thunderbeings on google, all i can find is a few poorly-written (and i dont just mean in the way legends seem to lack character depth and sometimes the characters lack common sense, i mean severe misspellings and painful gramatical errors) legends on them.

Supposedly, a Thunderbeing is a winged man who lives in the sky and watches over the western Native Americans, the Lakota specifically, if i remember correctly. Supposedly if you look at a Thunderbeing, you become a holy man.

But on Animal X, didnt they say that Thunderbeings were holy men who went into trances and when they did, their spirit form had wings or something like that? And wasnt that comming from northeastern US?
Bio-Mage
Probably a merge between the thunderbird and Mothman. Nothing new though. I am pretty sure they just confuse both stories.
Conspiracy
sounds like thunderbird
CrazyHarry
Or ever think some people just want attention?
dragonlady_mothman
On Animal X they called ThunderBIRD and ThunderBEING two different things...
Babs
Thunderbirds are gigantic birds and thunderbeing is a big bird-man. (Sounds like Mothman).
Wild_Woman
Thor?
dragonlady_mothman
Does sound like it, but from wrong hemisphere.

Thor is Nordic, Thunderbeing is Native American. Though i do have a chat on the alternative history board about these things being inspired by real creatures. So let's theorize that Thor isnt a god of war, but some sort of bio-electric alien that was known to the Native Americans as Thunderbeing...
MadEyePixie
I remember on Animal X too that the town where they talked to the Native Americans about Thunderbeings was called Pleasant Point and the town where Mothman was sighted was Point Pleasant. Perhaps there is a connection between the two.
dragonlady_mothman
Alot of "natural" paranormal phenomena have to do with places and locations. crop circles often show up near monoliths, things like Stonehenge. Keel talked about the significance of the so-called aliens' names when they spoke to people. There are lines in really, really old books (not sure that they're ancient) about people from...we'll say higher planes of existnace bcause i dont remember if they were talking about angels or not using a variety names, Cold (as in Indrid Cold) being one of them. Many of the "aliens" took on names from Greek, Roman, or Babylonian gods, some even from some of Keel's little-known and failed novels.
MadEyePixie
So the aliens took names from Keel's books? How cool.
dragonlady_mothman
Keel treated it as if no one in the world could have ever found out about those...but just because they failed doesnt mean no one read them, as long as they got published, or that it would be hard to find out if he had written other things beyond Mothman books.

i didnt trust alot of those "aliens" that showed up at the time. some of them were...too convenient, you know? If Princess Moon Owl was really on the radio talking about her home planet, why hasnt the government disected her yet?
dragonlady_mothman
does anybody know for sure what a thunderbeing is?
openmind1963
could'nt it just be a folk legend or story passed down by native americans?many of them i have seen & talked with are convinced bigfoot is a shapeshifter.they sight cases where his footprints stop in the middle of a frozen lake.there has to be a logical explanation behind all of these legends does'nt it???
Babs
Many of these names are coincidental or are they? I had a sighting of 'big bird' near Pt. Pleasant, Ohio. Many strange sightings along the river here where Pt. Pleasant is (in Ohio) and between Pt. Pleasant and Ripley (Ohio). Keep traveling and you run into W.Virginia, Mothman country.

I think the area or areas with these names are haunted. I think the area down on the river, I just spoke about, is haunted. There are many UFO sightings there too. There is even a site where Ohioans and West Virginians talk about Mothman and related paranormal stuff on the net, along with people from other countries that have an interest in Mothman. They encourage the locals to tell their stories and give up-to-date information on Mothman..
Walken
Got a link to some of teese web-whits? happy.gif
fushigi
Mothman (or birdman as he was called in the 70's) appeared in Pt Pleasant WV. He was supposedly the cursed form of Chief Cornstalk (Keigh-teugh-ga), come to get his revenge on the city of Pt Pleasant for his death in the Battle of Point Pleasant about 200 years prior to the collapse of the Silver Bridge. Cornstalk died on Nov 9 1777, the bridge connecting Pt Pleasant WV and Gallipolis OH fell on Dec 19 1977. He hung around an old abandoned TNT plant, and the name birdman was coined my a Michigan couple (the Scarberry's) who happened to be passing through this part of the country in their police report. The collapse of the bridge was preceded by months of shady activity including UFO sitings, numerous ghost sitings (as well as sightings of Birdman himself) and a mysterious explosion at the Pt Pleasant Jail killing all but one person in the building (who is a kindly old fellow, by the way.) The bridge fell and everything stopped. One Gallipolis man claims he was the mothman. He was back in town for a while from military duty, he got bored and put on all his gear (among other things) and hung from trees and jumped out at people from cars and such. After the bridge fell he says he had no desire to scare people anymore. I have never met this man, so I don't know the validity of his statements. However, not even many locals know about this guy, so it seems kind of strange that in such a small community a secret like that could have been kept. But perhaps everyone was just so bored that they wanted to believe anything to keep them occupied. Who knows?
dragonlady_mothman
reports of Mothy (namely, the one they used on Animal X), said he could keep up with cars going a hundred miles per hour...on foot.

name me one human that can do that.
OneEye
Raiden or whatever his name is from Mortal Combat.
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