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dragonlady_mothman
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As the dog days of summer gradually give way to the crisp chill of autumn, September 12 might seem to be just another typical day. For me, the date tickles at the back of my mind, like a teasing memory. Then I recall an eerie significance attached to this date, when an event almost too bizarre to be real rocked the small town of Flatwoods in central West Virginia.

September 12, 2002, marks the 50th anniversary of the reported sighting of an alien creature in the hills of Braxton County. Some dismissed it as a hoax, but those who were actually there at the time have a different perspective. The event has had a profound impact. As a result of it, Flatwoods would earn the nickname "Home of the Green Monster." The frightening tale would be told time and again by those who witnessed the event, and friends and neighbors would speak of it in whispers. The story would live on, passed down through the generations and becoming part of the oral folklore that is so unique to our mountain culture and heritage.

I was five years old when I first learned about the Flatwoods Monster, also known as the Braxton County Monster, the Phantom of Flatwoods, or simply the Green Monster. It was an experience that was burned forever into my mind.

During the early 1950's, my family and I lived in Summersville, and I loved to go on fishing trips with my dad and other relatives. On one of these fishing expeditions late one summer, we spent most of the morning fishing up and down the Elk River, just above Sutton, in Braxton County. Tired and hungry, we retreated to a local restaurant for lunch. This restaurant was located at the "Y" intersection of routes 4 and 19, about half-a-mile south of downtown Sutton. We were seated in a booth near the window, and had just finished ordering our food. We were making small talk with the waitress when she looked at me and commented, "You'd better look out, or that monster will get you."

Why would someone offer that kind of "helpful" advice to a five-year-old kid? Her words, nonetheless, had the desired effect, and I felt the blood drain from my face in terror. I looked to my father for reassurance, or a conspiratorial wink, or a smile indicating that the waitress was kidding. But there were none!

An uncomfortable silence fell over the afternoon dining crowd, and the room took on the stale air of a funeral parlor. In quiet, hushed tones, conversations slowly resumed. My young ears picked up bits and pieces of dialogue laced with words such as "fireball," "spaceship," "red eyes," and "10-feet tall." My heart thumped painfully against my thin chest when I heard the phrase, "Eat you alive!"

Apparently, the fear in my heart was communicated clearly on my face. A burly gentleman leaned around our booth and commented, "Don't worry about the monster getting you, kid. You'll smell it before it gets near enough to grab you." The diners around us erupted into gales of hearty laughter that reverberated around the room for a good two minutes. I looked questioningly at my father, still hoping for some form of reassurance, and he began to explain.

Recently, some people in the nearby community of Flatwoods had an unusual experience, he said. A fireball, it seems, had fallen from the sky. A few residents witnessed this phenomenon and had gone to investigate. When they got there, they discovered a hideous monstrosity with fiery red eyes. Some of the search team reportedly were overwhelmed by a highly noxious odor and ran for their lives. My father finished by saying that he wouldn't let the monster get me.

I felt a little better, but my once-strong interest in bass fishing was now completely overshadowed by a nagging fear of monsters. My thoughts strayed, and I felt a desperate urge to retreat across the mountain to the safety and comfort of home.

That episode in the restaurant left an impression on me so intense, that still today I am repulsed and fascinated by the Green Monster.

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Wooddevil
You reading the same books I am, Dragonlady?

This one could be attributed to another Mothman sighting.

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dragonlady_mothman
i think it might be. i made a reference on one mothman board about people seeing a critter with a head shaped like an ace of spades...

does that kinda look like a solitaire card design that escaped?
Xoisk el Soñador
that is the most f***ed up monster I've seen!!!
dragonlady_mothman
Either really cute or really creepy, isnt it?
Kryso
It’s so weird that its gotta be true, because if they have the imagination to make a story up, then they could of come up with something a little more realistic, lol.
dragonlady_mothman
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In modern police parlance a long-unsolved homicide or other crime may be known as a "cold case," a term we might borrow for such paranormal mysteries as that of the Flatwoods Monster, which was launched on September 12, 1952, and never completely explained.
About 7:15 p.m. on that day, at Flatwoods, a little village in the hills of West Virginia, some youngsters were playing football on the school playground. Suddenly they saw a fiery UFO streak across the sky and, apparently, land on a hilltop of the nearby Bailey Fisher farm. The youths ran to the home of Mrs. Kathleen May, who provided a flashlight and accompanied them up the hill. In addition to Mrs. May, a local beautician, the group included her two sons, Eddie 13, and Freddie 14, Neil Nunley 14, Gene Lemon 17, and Tommy Hyer and Ronnie Shaver, both 10, along with Lemon's dog.

There are myriad, often contradictory versions of what happened next, but UFO writer Gray Barker was soon on the scene and wrote an account for Fate magazine based on tape-recorded interviews. He found that the least emotional account was provided by Neil Nunley, one of two youths who were in the lead as the group hastened to the crest of the hill. Some distance ahead was a pulsing red light. Then, suddenly, Gene Lemon saw a pair of shining, animal-like eyes, and aimed the flashlight in their direction.

The light revealed a towering "man-like" figure with a round, red "face" surrounded by a "pointed, hood-like shape." The body was dark and seemingly colorless, but some would later say it was green, and Mrs. May reported drape-like folds. The monster was observed only momentarily, as suddenly it emitted a hissing sound and glided toward the group. Lemon responded by screaming and dropping his flashlight, whereupon everyone fled.

The group had noticed a pungent mist at the scene and afterward some were nauseated. A few locals, then later the sheriff and a deputy (who came from investigating a reported airplane crash), searched the site but "saw, heard and smelled nothing." The following day A. Lee Stewart, Jr., from the Braxton Democrat discovered "skid marks" in the roadside field, along with an "odd, gummy deposit" -- traces attributed to the landed "saucer" (Barker 1953).

In his article Barker (1953) noted that "numerous people in a 20-mile radius saw the illuminated objects in the sky at the same time," evidently seeing different objects or a single one "making a circuit of the area." Barker believed the Flatwoods incident was consistent with other reports of "flying saucers or similar craft" and that "such a vehicle landed on the hillside, either from necessity or to make observations." (At this time in UFOlogical history, the developing mythology had not yet involved alien "abductions.")

In addition to Barker's article and later his book (1956), accounts of the Flatwoods incident were related by another on-site investigator, paranormal writer Ivan T. Sanderson (1952, 1967), as well as the early UFOlogist Major Donald E. Keyhoe (1953). More recent accounts have garbled details, with Brookesmith (1995), for example, incorrectly reporting five of the children as belonging to Mrs. May, and Ritchie (1994) referring to the monster's hoodlike feature as a "halo," which he compared with those in Japanese Buddhist art. However, Jerome Clark's The UFO Encyclopedia (1998) has a generally factual, sensible account of the affair, appropriately termed "one of the most bizarre UFO encounters of all time."


The UFO
On June 1, 2000, while on a trip that took me through Flatwoods, I was able to stop off for an afternoon of on-site investigating. I was amused to be greeted by a sign announcing, "Welcome to / Flatwoods / Home of / the Green Monster." Although the village has no local library, I found something even better: a real-estate business, Country Properties, whose co-owners Betty Hallman and Laura Green generously photocopied articles for me and telephoned residents to set up interviews.
Johnny Lockard, 95, told me that virtually everyone who had seen the alleged flying saucer in 1952 recognized it for what it was: a meteor. He, his daughter Betty Jean, and her husband Bill Sumpter said that the fireball had been seen on a relatively horizontal trajectory in various states. In fact, according to a former local newspaper editor, "There is no doubt that a meteor of considerable proportion flashed across the heavens that Friday night since it was visible in at least three states -- Maryland, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia" (Byrne 1966). The meteor explanation contrasts with the fanciful notions of Sanderson (1967). He cites several persons who each saw a single glowing object. Although observing that "All of the objects were traveling in the same direction and apparently at the same speed and at exactly the same time," he fails to draw the obvious conclusion: that there was one object, albeit variously described. (For example, one report said the object landed on a nearby knoll, while another described it as "disintegrating in the air with a rain of ashes.") Instead of suspecting that people were mistaken or that they saw a meteor that broke apart, Sanderson asserts that "to be logical" we should believe that "a flight of aerial machines" were "maneuvering in formation." For some reason the craft went out of control, with one landing, rather than crashing, at Flatwoods, and its pilot emerged "in a space suit." Observed, it headed back to the spaceship which -- like two others that "crashed" -- soon "vaporized" (Sanderson 1967).

Such airy speculations aside, according to Major Keyhoe (1953), Air Force Intelligence reportedly sent two men in civilian clothes to Flatwoods, posing as magazine writers, and they determined that the UFO had been a meteor that "merely appeared to be landing when it disappeared over the hill." That illusion also deceived a man approximately ten miles southwest of Flatwoods, who reported that an aircraft had gone down in flames on the side of a wooded hill. (That was the report the sheriff had investigated, without success, before arriving at the Flatwoods site.)

Keyhoe's sources told him that "several astronomers" had concluded that the UFO was indeed a meteor. As well, a staff member of the Maryland Academy of Sciences announced that a meteor had passed over Baltimore at 7 p.m. on September 12, "traveling at a height of from 60 to 70 miles" (Reese 1952). It was on a trajectory toward West Virginia, where the "saucer" was sighted minutes later.


Spaceship Aground?
If the UFO was not a spaceship but a meteor, then how do we explain the other elements -- the pulsating light, the landing traces, the noxious smell, and, above all, the frightening creature? Let us consider each in turn.
As the group had proceeded up the roadway that led to the hilltop, they saw "a reddish light pulsating from dim to bright." It was described as a "globe" and as "a big ball of fire" (Barker 1953), but Sanderson (1967) says they "disagreed violently on their interpretation of this object." We should keep in mind that it was an unknown distance away -- and that there was no trustworthy frame of reference from which to estimate size (reported to Sanderson as over twenty feet across).

Significantly, at the time of the incident, a local school teacher called attention to "the light from a nearby plane beacon," and Sanderson (1952) conceded that there were three such beacons "in sight all the time on the hilltop." However, he dismissed the obvious possibility that one of these was the source of the pulsing light because he was advocating an extraterrestrial explanation.

But if a UFO had not landed at the site, how do we explain the supposed landing traces? They were found at 7 o'clock the morning after the incident by A. Lee Stewart, Jr., editor of The Braxton Democrat, who had visited the site the night before. Stewart discovered two parallel "skid marks" in the tall meadow grass, between the spot where the monster was seen and the area where the red pulsating light was sighted. He also saw traces of "oil" or "an odd, gummy deposit" (Barker 1953).

Johnny Lockard's son, Max, describes Stewart in a word: "windy." Max had tried to explain to him and others the nature of the unidentified object that left the skid marks and oily/greasy deposit, namely Max's black, 1942 Chevrolet pickup truck. Soon after news of the incident had spread around Flatwoods that evening, Max drove up the hillside to have a look around. He told me he left the dirt road and circled through the field, but saw nothing, no monster and no landing traces in the meadow grass.

At the time of the incident a few locals who had been skeptical that a flying saucer had landed on the hill attributed the skid marks and oil to a farm tractor. When several others told Gray Barker that the traces had actually been left by Max Lockard, he recalled his old high school chum and decided to telephone him. They had a proverbial failure to communicate and Barker -- who admitted to seeing "an opportunity to get my name in print again" -- concluded that Max's truck had not been at the exact spot where the alleged UFO markings were found.

Reading Barker (1956), one senses his impulse to dismiss the tractor and pickup hypotheses and never even to consider the possibility of some other vehicle. It is not clear that Barker ever saw the traces. He arrived one week after the incident and during the interval rain had obliterated evidence. He could find "no trace of the oil reported to have been on the ground," and although he saw "marks and a huge area of grass trampled down," he conceded that could be due to the "multitudes" that had "visited and walked over the location" (Barker 1953, 1956).

Max Lockard took me to the site (figure 1) in his modern pickup. A locked gate across the road prompted him to shift into four-wheel drive and take us on a cross-country shortcut through a field, much as he had done in his search for the reported UFO and monster nearly a half century before. He has convinced me that he indeed left the supposedly unexplained traces. With a twinkle in my eye I posed a question: "Max, had you ever piloted a UFO before?" His smile answered that he had not.

As to the nauseating odor, that has been variously described as a sulfurous smell, "metallic stench," gaslike mist, or simply a "sickening, irritating" odor. Investigators first on the scene noticed no such smell, except for Lee Stewart who detected it when he bent close to the ground. The effect on three of the youths, particularly Lemon, was later to cause nausea and complaints of irritated throats (Barker 1953, 1956; Sanderson 1967; Keyhoe 1953).

This element of the story may be overstated. Ivan Sanderson (1967), scarcely a militant skeptic, also noticed the "strange smell in the grass" but stated that it was "almost surely derived from a kind of grass that abounds in the area." He added, "We found this grass growing all over the county and it always smelt the same, though not perhaps as strongly." Keyhoe (1953) reported that the Air Force investigators had concluded that "the boys' illness was a physical effect brought on by their fright." Indeed Gene Lemon, the worst affected, had seemed the most frightened; he had "shrieked with terror" and fallen backward, dropping the flashlight, and later "appeared too greatly terrified to talk coherently" (Barker 1956). As to the strange "mist" that had accompanied the odor (Barker 1953), that seems easily explained. Obviously it was the beginning stage of what the sheriff subsequently noticed on his arrival, a fog that was "settling over the hillside" (Keyhoe 1953).


The Creature
Finally, and most significantly, there remains to be explained "the Flatwoods Monster," a.k.a. "the Phantom of Flatwoods," "the Braxton County Monster," "the Visitor from Outer Space," and other appellations (Byrne 1966). Many candidates have been proposed, but -- considering that the UFO became an IFO, namely a meteor -- the least likely one is some extraterrestrial entity. I think we can dismiss also the notion, among the hypotheses put forward by a local paper, that it was the effect of vapor from a falling meteor that took the shape of a man ("Monster" 1952). Also extremely unlikely was the eventual explanation of Mrs. May that what she had seen "wasn't a monster" but rather "a secret plane the government was working on" (Marchal 1966). (Both she and her son Fred declined to be interviewed for my investigation.)
I agree with most previous investigators that the monster sighting was not a hoax. The fact that the witnesses did see a meteor and assembled on the spur of the moment to investigate makes that unlikely. So does the fact that everyone who talked to them afterward insisted -- as Max Lockard did to me -- that the eyewitnesses were genuinely frightened. Clearly, something they saw frightened them, but what?

The group described shining "animal eyes," and Mrs. May at first thought they belonged to "an opossum or raccoon in the tree" (Barker 1956, Sanderson 1967). Locals continued to suggest some such local animal, including "a buck deer" (Barker 1956), but a much more credible candidate was put forth by the unnamed Air Force investigators. According to Keyhoe (1953), they concluded the "monster" was probably "a large owl perched on a limb" with underbrush beneath it having "given the impression of a giant figure" and the excited witnesses having "imagined the rest."

I believe this generic solution is correct, but that the owl was not from the family of "typical owls" (Strigidae, which includes the familiar great horned owl) but the other family (Tytonidae) which comprises the barn owls. Several elements in the witnesses' descriptions help identify the Flatwoods creature specifically as Tyto alba, the common barn owl, known almost worldwide (Collins 1959). Consider the following evidence.

The "monster" reportedly had a "man-like shape" and stood some ten feet tall, although Barker (1953) noted that "descriptions from the waist down are vague; most of the seven said this part of the figure was not under view." These perceptions are consistent with an owl perched on a limb (figure 2).

Also suggestive of an owl is the description of the creature's "face" as "round" with "two eye-like openings" and a dark, "hood-like shape" around it (if not the "pointed" appearance of the latter) (Barker 1953). The barn owl has a large head with a "ghastly," roundishly heart-shaped face, resembling "that of a toothless, hook-nosed old woman, shrouded in a closely fitting hood" and with an expression "that gives it a mysterious air" (Jordan 1952, Blanchan 1925).

Very evidential in the case of the Flatwoods Monster is the description of its cry as "something between a hiss and a high-pitched squeal" (Barker 1953). This tallies with the startling "wild, peevish scream" or "shrill rasping hiss or snore" of the barn owl. Indeed its "shrill, strangled scream is a most unbirdlike noise." Its "weird calls" include "hissing notes, screams," and "guttural grunts" (Blanchan 1925, Peterson 1980, Bull and Farrand 1977, Cloudsley-Thompson et al. 1983). The latter might explain the monster's accompanying "thumping or throbbing noise" (Barker 1953), if those sounds were not from the flapping of wings.

Descriptions of the creature's movement varied, being characterized as "bobbing up and down, jumping toward the witnesses" or as moving "evenly," indeed "describing an arc, coming toward them, but circling at the same time" (Barker 1956). Again, it had "a gliding motion as if afloat in midair." These movements are strongly suggestive of a bird's flight. When accidentally disturbed, the barn owl "makes a bewildered and erratic getaway" (Jordan 1952) -- while hissing (Blanchan 1925) -- but its flight is generally characterized with "slow, flapping wing beats and long glides" (Cloudsley-Thompson et al. 1983).

According to Barker (1953), "Not all agreed that the 'monster' had arms," but "Mrs. May described it with terrible claws." Sanderson (1967) cites the witnesses' observation that "the creature had small, claw-like hands that extended in front of it," a description consistent with a raptor (a predatory bird). The barn owl is relatively long-legged and knock-kneed, sporting sizable claws with sharp, curved talons that may be prominently extended (Peterson 1980, Forshaw 1998).

It is important to note that the youths and Mrs. May only glimpsed the creature briefly -- an estimated "one or a few more seconds," and even that was while they were frightened. Barker (1956) asks, "If Lemon dropped the flashlight, as he claimed, how did they get an apparently longer look at the 'monster'?" Some said the being was lighted from within (probably only the effect of its "shining" eyes), while Nunley stated that it was illuminated by the pulsing red light (ostensibly from the supposed UFO but probably from one of the beacons mentioned earlier). This might also explain the "fiery orange color" of the creature's head (Sanderson 1967), but as an alternative explanation, while the barn owl is typically described as having a white facial disc and underparts, in the case of the female those parts "have some darker buff or tawny color" ("Barn Owl" 2000).

For this reason, as well as the fact that in this species (a medium-sized owl, measuring about 14-20" [Peterson 1980]) the male is typically the smaller (Blanchan 1925), I suspect the Flatwoods creature was a female. It is also interesting to speculate that it may not have been too late in the year for a female to have been brooding young. That could explain why "she" did not fly away at the first warning of intruders (given barn owls' "excellent low-light vision and exceptional hearing ability" ["Barn Owl" 2000]); instead, probably hoping not to be noticed, she stood her ground until invaders confronted her with a flashlight, a threatening act that provoked her hissing, attack-like swoop toward them.

Significantly, the locale where the Flatwoods Monster made its appearance -- near a large oak tree on a partially wooded hilltop overlooking a farm on the outskirts of town -- tallies with the habitat of the barn owl. Indeed, it is "the best known of farmland owls" (Cloudsley-Thompson 1983). It builds no nest, but takes as its "favorite home" a "hollow tree" (Blanchan 1925). It "does not mind the neighborhood of man" (Jordan 1952), in fact seeking out mice and rats from its residence in "woodlands, groves, farms, barns, towns, cliffs" (Peterson 1980).

Considering all of the characteristics of the described monster, and making small allowances for misperceptions and other distorting factors, we may conclude (adapting an old adage) that if it looked like a barn owl, acted like a barn owl, and hissed, then it was most likely a barn owl.


How "Monsters" Appear
It may be wondered, however, why the creature was not immediately recognized for what it was. The answer is that, first, the witnesses were led to expect an alien being by their sighting of a UFO that appeared to land and by the pulsating red light and strange smell that seemed to confirm the landing. Therefore, when they then encountered a strange creature, acting aggressively, their fears seemed to be confirmed and they panicked.
Moreover, the group had probably never seen a barn owl up close (after all, such birds are nocturnal) and almost certainly not under the adverse conditions that prevailed. The brief glimpse, at night, of a being that suddenly swept at them -- coupled with its strange "ghastly" appearance and shrill frightening cry -- would have been disconcerting to virtually anyone at any time. But under the circumstances, involving an inexperienced group primed with expectations of extraterrestrials, the situation was a recipe for terror.

And so a spooked barn owl in turn spooked the interlopers, and a monster was born. A "windy" newspaperman and pro-paranormal writers hyped the incident, favoring sensational explanations for more prosaic ones. Such is often the case with paranormal claims.


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dragonlady_mothman
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Frank Feschino's telephone call came as a surprise this past summer. We had met at a conference in Florida a few years back when he had mentioned he was researching the Flatwoods Monster UFO event of Sept. 12, 1952. Our pictures were taken together and that was about the end of it. Now Frank, an artist who has done film school as well, was asking if I would help him out by attending the Flatwoods Monster 50th Anniversary event in Flatwoods, West Virginia, the weekend of September 12, 2002. There were more conversations and I agreed as long as they would cover expenses. I hadn't been in West Virginia for years, though I had spoken at West Virginia University in Morgantown.

Frank wanted me to speak on two afternoons at the newly set up "museum" or event center and do some media interviews

I did some homework reviewing what had been written about the case by Jerome Clark, Donald Keyhoe, Dr. Joe Nickell, and others. Some was impressive. The plan was to drive to Bangor, Maine, fly to Cincinnati and then to Charleston, West Virginia. Frank would pick me up with the mayor and drive the 60 miles on Interstate 79 to a motel in Sutton, next door to Flatwoods. That morning was jinxed. I got on the connecting flight in Cincinnati with a few other passengers. Then we were told to get off, just a small problem with the plane and they were bringing over another aircraft. While waiting there was a major Security Alert and we were all chased out of Terminal A. With all my travelling, this was my first such security adventure -- and I hope my last.

I spent a few hours waiting in line then finally getting through security to find that the plane had left and I was booked on a much later flight and wait listed for a somewhat earlier flight. I tried calling Frank who was of course at the airport in Charleston. I was the last standby let on the flight. Frank was waiting with the Flatwoods Mayor. They hadn't been able to get any useful info from the airline, but somebody who got off my supposed flight said things were a mess. Fortunately, we did arrive in time to take the tour leading a bunch of people who had come for the event to the actual site of the encounter with the monster. Frank led the tour as we walked past the big tree which the monster came from behind. We walked up the hill to the top where the UFO had landed and the gully to which the UFO had migrated. We were there exactly 50 years to the minute after the event.

Knowing the geography was very useful. Since that place at the top was the highest flat area in the region, it was a natural place for a plane in trouble to land. In the gully the UFO was not exposed. These areas were well above the school yard where the youngsters had been playing football when they first spotted. the object. I helped Frank on the tour even noting that a month or two before, while on a radio show out of NY, a former USAF man then based at Andrews AFB, had called saying that not only were there jets scrambled over Washington, DC, during the famous July ,1952, flap of sightings (even over the White House) but frequently for the following year, which would include the time of the Flatwoods case. The base was definitely but quietly concerned about UFOs. The airman noted that in one instance 2 jets had been sent up after a UFO and only one came back.

I spoke without slides both days in the small museum meeting room which had been decorated with Frank's photos and drawings, did several interviews and met with several witnesses including Mrs. May, the key witness, and one of her sons who was there and had also been a witness. It turned out that the Mayor had also seen the object fly over.

We heard for the first time a tape that had been made many years earlier of a show hosted by Long John Nebel, the old New York City talk show host who often dealt with UFOs. Nebel interviewed naturalist Ivan Sanderson in depth. Sanderson had gone to West Virginia and talked to many witnesses within a short time of the event. Gray Barker of Clarksburg WV had also interviewed witnesses soon after the event. The local reporter, Mr. Stewart, had interviewed many witnesses and was aware of other sightings in the area that same weekend.

I was truly amazed at how much effort Frank had put into his investigation. He found news clippings from all over the East Coast talking of UFOs and supposed meteors seen that weekend though more likely burning or plasma surrounded UFOs. There are no normal meteor showers Sept. 12-15. Frank dug out the Blue Book files which had been difficult to read. He managed to locate the head of the National Guard contingent who was at the site within hours of the event, having been instructed by the military to check it out. Colonel Leavitt was with a bunch of troops who spent over night at the site. He managed to get samples of the oily material which were sent off never to be heard from again. Frank, because of his film school training, videotaped extended interviews with many of the key people including both Colonel Leavitt and journalist Stewart before they died.

Of course, there are some who say the whole story was baloney with the kids making up stories to get attention and the so called monster being nothing more than a large barn owl because of the way the top of the monster (seemingly a protective helmet) was shown as being backed by something in the shape of a playing card spade. Naturally in the tradition of noisy negativists, these debunkers did their research by proclamation rather than investigation.

The loudest of the debunkers is Dr. Joe Nickell the chief investigator for the self-anointed Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal. Dr. Nickell does have three degrees (all in English) and did visit Flatwoods, and writes well. However, he did not talk to the witnesses and did not visit the site hillside, the tree, or the flat area at the top. He has a long, very misleading article in Ron Story's 2000 Encyclopedia. It was just scared youngsters seeing a barn owl and a meteor landing on the hill. A ten foot high owl would really have been something, especially one able to float without moving its wings and without a branch to set on. For a large glowing Meteor to land without making a loud explosive sound and not creating a crater and not leaving any meteorite residue would be truly remarkable and especially when it had to change direction and slowly move across town.

Frank Feschino has done most of his work very quietly and has been almost obsessive about secrecy. I feel particularly privileged to be able to read a copy of his manuscript about the case. I surely hope that a publisher will soon be found and that a motion picture production company is not far behind.

Based on his drawings and comments made by reporters within three days of the events and on testimony by other witnesses from a nearby town where a "monster" was also seen, I think that at least the exterior portion of the monster was mechanical. It made me think of a hazardous material protective device -- perhaps with an Extraterrestrial Biological Entity inside. It seems clear the object was in trouble when it landed. There is far more evidence relating to the Flatwoods Monster event than was the case with regard to that other West Virginia monster, the Mothman.

Although Frank Feschino has already collected a huge number of clippings about the case I would be most happy to receive any that readers can dig up from any newspapers for September 12-16, 1952. They may refer to UFOs or meteors or missing jets seen East of the Mississippi and can be sent to me at POB 958, Houlton, ME 04730 USA. Please indicate the date of the clipping and the name of the newspaper. I will forward them to Frank. The best website to check out is Frank Feschino's at www.flatwoodsmonster.com.

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charnelhound
damn thats thing is ugly
Undefined_innocence
Weird
Rye Guy
Does anyone know of any more modern sightings anywhere else in the world?
dragonlady_mothman
try here
openmind1963
looks like something out of that movie,"The Village".i know a bunch of west va folks,and some of the stories they tell me pale in comparrison to this one! unsure.gif
AutumnDragon
QUOTE(charnelhound @ Apr 23 2005, 07:15 PM)
damn thats thing is ugly
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it looks more like a robot than a living thing
dragonlady_mothman
QUOTE(TwilightDemon @ Apr 24 2005, 11:21 PM)
QUOTE(charnelhound @ Apr 23 2005, 07:15 PM)
damn thats thing is ugly
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it could be, actually. that's the beauty of these unknown...thingies. they could be just about anything.
Undefined_innocence
I think it looks more like a robot myself too. It looks too stiff... too.. unshaped and too si fi like to actually be something from nature herslef.
dragonlady_mothman
those are only artists sketches, i think.
CrazyHarry
I quote this from the Great Crow T. Robot from mystery Science Thearter 3000.
"Looks like a baseball bat from Alaska."
rachelkleypassparrow
When I was younger, my brother, his friend and I saw something similiar one night coming down the road known as Ritchie Road in a place called Cabot, Arkansas in the 70's, sometime after I had my missing time experience.

We ran, but later decided it was our imagination. We were too scared of it too find out if it was real or not. Our answer was to deny it and we agreed that we imagined it. Although, I think we knew we had seen something.

As I said, it wasn't too long after my experience where I had missing time. It is just that everytime I see this alien picture it freaks me out. The 'greys', I can cope with-this one, I can't.

We got the sense it wasn't like a real being-more like a robot. Like I said, we didn't stick around to find out what it was, or wasn't. I just wonder, if anybody else saw anything like it where we use to live. That is one entity that I don't ever want to encounter again. Give me the rest, but that one is like one's nightmares come to fruition.
Neo2005
Cool stuff.
Any acuall pics of this monster?
dragonlady_mothman
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Apr 25 2005, 04:29 PM)
Cool stuff.
Any acuall pics of this monster?
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I dont think so...it would be pretty cool. one of those articles said the government did a whole misinformation thingy, so that may or may not be what they said they saw.
mr_halo
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Apr 26 2005, 08:06 PM)
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Apr 25 2005, 04:29 PM)
Cool stuff.
Any acuall pics of this monster?
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I dont think so...it would be pretty cool. one of those articles said the government did a whole misinformation thingy, so that may or may not be what they said they saw.
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have there been any recent sighting or encounters with the flatwoods monster?

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dragonlady_mothman
QUOTE(mr_halo @ Apr 26 2005, 03:08 PM)
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Apr 26 2005, 08:06 PM)
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Apr 25 2005, 04:29 PM)
Cool stuff.
Any acuall pics of this monster?
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I dont think so...it would be pretty cool. one of those articles said the government did a whole misinformation thingy, so that may or may not be what they said they saw.
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have there been any recent sighting or encounters with the flatwoods monster?

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Not that i'm aware of. Some of these things are one-hit wonders, you know? Mothman for sure without a doubt and dispute has been seen the one time, all other creatures resembling Mothman are slightly different enough. Could be the same critter, but still different enough to argue about.

forty years from now, an animal will turn up dead and drained of blood and some will go, "It could be the chupacabras...but that thing was gray, what i saw was blue."

You changed your avvie! who is it now?
TheOriginalF
I always like to try to take things like this seriously but that is just so silly looking that I have a heard time taking it seriously at all.
dragonlady_mothman
Once again, somehwere between cute and creepy, isnt it? grin2.gif
mr_halo
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Apr 26 2005, 08:44 PM)
QUOTE(mr_halo @ Apr 26 2005, 03:08 PM)
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Apr 26 2005, 08:06 PM)
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Apr 25 2005, 04:29 PM)
Cool stuff.
Any acuall pics of this monster?
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I dont think so...it would be pretty cool. one of those articles said the government did a whole misinformation thingy, so that may or may not be what they said they saw.
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have there been any recent sighting or encounters with the flatwoods monster?

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Not that i'm aware of. Some of these things are one-hit wonders, you know? Mothman for sure without a doubt and dispute has been seen the one time, all other creatures resembling Mothman are slightly different enough. Could be the same critter, but still different enough to argue about.

forty years from now, an animal will turn up dead and drained of blood and some will go, "It could be the chupacabras...but that thing was gray, what i saw was blue."

You changed your avvie! who is it now?
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the man in my avatar is The Sorrow from metal gear solid 3 yes.gif

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dragonlady_mothman
O.o

I'm having the sudden urge to go rent war games i've never looked twice at before becuase your avvies are neat!

i think i've heard the games your stuff is from are pretty good...if youre into that, and i never have been. i'm more of a sword and sorcery person, myself.
mr_halo
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Apr 26 2005, 09:07 PM)
O.o

I'm having the sudden urge to go rent war games i've never looked twice at before becuase your avvies are neat!

i think i've heard the games your stuff is from are pretty good...if youre into that, and i never have been.  i'm more of a sword and sorcery person, myself.
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well the metal gear solid games are rather good, and theres loads of weird things happening in them unsure.gif

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Joe013
i saw my stepbrother beat snake eater in a week


it was pretty cool


i was the one to kill the end
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mr_halo
QUOTE(Joe013 @ Apr 26 2005, 09:34 PM)
i saw my stepbrother beat snake eater in a week


it was pretty cool


i was the one to kill the end
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yeah i beat it in just over 3 and a half hours, great game though yes.gif

anyway back on topic, has anything like the flatwoods monster been sighted in any other country?

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dragonlady_mothman
i dont think so, lemme look.

I beat Ocarina of Time in about six hours, but i didnt do anything if i didnt have to.
scorpion_vuk
Hundreds of people across W. Virginia saw a UFO in the sky. It landed in Flatwoods and some people where out to find it. They noticed an unpleasant smell in the air. On the hill they saw a ball of light and an alien entity. It floated back into it`s ship and took of.

Do you have any other information

scorpion_vuk
user posted imagehere is a pic
ForRizzle
Are you kidding?
scorpion_vuk
here is another picuser posted image
dragonlady_mothman
Oh, it's cute! yes.gif
XSAS
Those pictures are real convincing?? lol
Wolfwood
I remember reading about UFOs and came across a story of a mexican cop that ran into a thing just like while on partol by himself. The cop's story was also featured with the Mothman thing on the Animal X show on the animal planet. Here is the story pretty freaky. http://www.rense.com/general48/entity.htm
Taleese
Hey, I 'm new here, but I wanted to tell those on this topic that I live right next to Flatwoods, about 8 minutes in a town called Sutton. Still to this day there are a lot of strange sightings all the time. Many of our friends who live near the coal mines around here...see strange lights all the time. This may be just a coincidence...but every since the event of the Flatwoods monster.....locals around here say that the way people act, behave and treat others changed after that time. People used to be kind and caring, but now they cannot be trusted and backstab, steal and use one another. Something happened here in Braxton County after the event of the Flatwoods Monster. I personally believe that some of the people who live here, aren't people. I am a Christian and personally beleive that the "Fallen Angels" and "Aliens" are one in the same "Beings." and there is a verse which supports the theory that some people aren't really human among us:

Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


Jud 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.


Jud 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Jud 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.


So, it makes me wonder about many of the people who live around me! I see strange things myself all the time...there is just something not quite right about Braxton County West Virginia!








sadistic jellyfish of doom
OMFG!
rapid7

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Samael
It looks like a badly made Vodou (voodoo) doll if you ask me...
snuffypuffer
Wow, you guys dug up an old, old thread, there.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Jul 15 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]1271285[/snapback]

Wow, you guys dug up an old, old thread, there.

Yeah, I was searchin for stuff about mothman and this came up and I found it interesting
Agent. Mulder
k, this 'flatwoods monster' looks a hell of alot more like that stupid maid from the Jetsons.
i think id actually ask it to make me some coffee if i saw it, as opposed to running away.
rapid7

lol laugh.gif Yeah the Flatwoods monster does look stupid although I think it's just due to the unreliability of the eye witnesses and artistic impression. I don't think they were trained in observation.

For example judging by these artistic impressions made by eye witnesses, you wouldn't think these aliens could possibly exist...yet they do.

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Anyway, here's another of the flatwoods monster. I'm trying to make it look less ridiculous lol thumbsup.gif

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coldethyl
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Anyway, here's another of the flatwoods monster. I'm trying to make it look less ridiculous lol thumbsup.gif

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Not working.... laugh.gif
Urisk
Sounds like somthing you'd read in an old pulpy Sci-fi mag like Amazing Stories or something.

RKD
coldethyl
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Sounds like somthing you'd read in an old pulpy Sci-fi mag like Amazing Stories or something.

RKD


I don't even think it sounds THAT good. laugh.gif
~Onyx~
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user posted imagehere is a pic


Looks like the Gingerbread-man in an Amish halloween costume....the look on the face is priceless.
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