QUOTE(Stellar @ Apr 27 2005, 09:22 AM)
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Incidentally, levitation can warp space-time and produce Warp Nine, but that is still far too slow for star travel.
What evidence do you have that levitation without technological means exists? And what speed would warp nine be, IYO?

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I think the best evidence for levitation comes from the Batcheldor groups (I misspelled it in an earlier post.) Kenneth Batcheldor has worked out an entire reproducible methodology for other groups interested in PK to follow, and many have, and much has been published. Just Google on "Batcheldor groups and JSPR". That will get you reports which have been published in the Journal of the Society for Psychical Research (JSPR). There is also a JASPR for the American Society, and probably several others. I know there is one in India. Probably one in Brazil.

But I digress. Batcheldor has provided a reproducible method that can be followed by any serious group interested in developing their own ability to levitate things, usually beginning with light weight card tables, but eventually progressing to heavy dining room tables with all members sitting on top of it. Kenneth Batcheldor's essential modus operandi is to only allow members into the group who believe in PK. Secondly, he waits until the PK is freely flowing before gathering any data, such as taking flash photos. He believes that the phenomena begins with natural sounds, such as creaks or pops in the wood of the building. I know my house makes loud noises occasionally, that I attribute to "the wind" or "the house settling" or "the TV cooling." Then the creaks and pops continue, until it is no longer plausible that they are all natural. That is the beginning of the PK. Once the gate is opened, it is easy to go on to table-tipping, spinning, and levitating.

In a Batcheldor group, they work in complete darkness and complete silence, although other secondary groups have deviated from those rules. Whatever works. Since PK is a power of the mind, it only makes sense that the psychological atmosphere is important. Batcheldor groups usually begin at midnight and go until dawn, night after night, whether they get any results or not. Secondary groups deviate from that rule too.
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will poison the atmosphere. So if they are not willing to believe the photos and videos, I guess they will just have to live and die a skeptic.

Shai Halud! Not being a fan of sci-fi, I don't really know what "Warp Nine" means, or whether it means anything. All I know is that it is FTL. Now, the theory about levitation is that the mind can effortlessly distort the space-time geodesics, and does so every night during deep (Theta?) sleep. This is a testable theory, and could be the only known experiment for dark matter that might actually work. It has to be effortless, or the sleep dynamo would lose mental energy, instead of gaining it.

BTW, O Omnipotent Stellar One, sleep has always been, and remains a mystery to scientists. We need sleep when we are mentally tired. Mere rest will suffice if we are just physically tired. The sleep dynamo exists to pump up the mental energy, and that means there must be a cyclical resisting force to the labored breathing of a person in Delta sleep. Or Theta. Whichever. E=force times distance, the universal law of all dynamos and alternators. Of course, there are multiple stages of sleep, and multiple reasons for sleep. My theory of the sleep alternator only applies to the "labored breathing" stage. A cat can sleep 20 hours of the day, but it doesn't mean that their sleep dynamo is running all that time, nor that they need large amounts of mental energy. They are just cat-napping anyway, with all senses alert. It is a way to avoid boredom and save energy.

To return to Warp Nine, if the geodesics in front of a moving object are compressed, and those following it are expanded, the local velocity of C can be less than 3*10**10 cm/sec, but can be much greater as measured from a different observer. So in theory, levitation can be used for FTL, but probably isn't.

There is plenty of both evidence and theory in
UFOs, PSI and Spiritual Evolution (
UP&SE )

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