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Man-Beast Hybrid Created In 1996
[Original headline: Man-beast hybrid beyond talking stage - Human DNA in cow egg]
Melding man and beast may sound like the stuff of science fiction, but it's not.

Amid all the advances in genetic manipulation, the idea of combining the DNA of animals and humans has gone beyond the talking stage -- it's been attempted.

Indeed, many scientists and academics are wondering how far it might go and what the ethical implications would be. If a human were crossed with a chimpanzee, for example, would it still be human? And if not, then what would it be?

The first publicized case of animal-human hybrids took place in 1996 when Jose Cibelli, a scientist at the University of Massachusetts, took DNA from his white blood cells by swabbing the inside of his cheek. He then inserted the DNA sample into a hollowed-out cow egg.

Cibelli's experiment came to an end after a week of growing the cell mass, he told scientists earlier this month at a panel meeting of the National Academy of Sciences in Washington, D.C.

This raised the question of what might have emerged had the cell mass continued to develop.

"As far as we know, it would still look like a human being, but some of the characteristics of individual cells might be slightly different," said James Cross, a molecular biologist at the University of Calgary who attended the meeting.

If such an embryo could develop, he said, the result would resemble a human being but carry bovine mitochondria, the energy-producing component of every cell. This is because the cow's egg shell, or cytoplasm, contains genetic materials known as mitochondrial DNA.

"This suggests that we can create new human-animal species," said Jeremy Rifkin, biotechnology critic and president of the Washington-based Foundation on Economic Trends.

Rifkin called the experiment "the most extraordinary single development in the history of biotechnology."

Such experiments have become public only when the makers of hybrids, who fund their operations through investor capital, apply to patent their inventions.

In partnership with Massachusetts-based Advanced Cell Technology, Cibelli came out from under a shroud of secrecy in 1998 when the firm applied to patent the alleged invention.

Last October, Greenpeace Germany dug up a patent claim for a similar human-animal hybrid, only this time it involved a pig. U.S.-based Biotransplant and Australia-based Stem Cell Sciences grew a pig-human embryo to 32 cells before ending its life.

"If the embryo had lived, it would be 95% human," said Michael Khoo, a genetic engineering campaigner for Greenpeace's Toronto branch. "The possibilities are not only frightening, but it's unknown just how many other similar patent applications are out there."

Meanwhile, critics and futurists are having a field day speculating on the future of biotechnology.

"Chimpanzees share between 95% and 98% of our genes, so the prospect of creating a human-chimpanzee hybrid are highly probable," Rifkin said. "The question becomes: What percentage of human genes will it take before human rights kick in? Would a hybrid have to look and talk like a human before it can get human rights?"

While the concept of making and owning such a creation for 20 years under patent law is controversial to say the least, the science behind combining animal eggs and human DNA could be useful, said Cross. "In the case of Dolly, it took 277 eggs to get the sheep. In normal IVF programs, the number of eggs you get usually ranges between five and 10. So, to solve a potential shortage, some scientists have considered using an egg from a different species to house human DNA."

While such an attempt to improve the egg supply may be scientifically possible, people are not ready for such a brave new world which involves crossing the species barrier, said Diane Cox, who chairs the medical genetics department at the University of Alberta. "Right now, technology is way ahead of ethics. The Canadian population is worried enough about relatively trivial things, let alone such a bizarre concept."


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TheBlueDragon
that is so cool!! great story!
John13np
cool story dude.
Hellights-Heavenlights
I think the mothman isn't real but it seems like a lot of people seen it, and I mean a lot of people. but hey, I can't prove the mothman isn't real yet.
dragonlady_mothman
i think they saw a something. Whether or not it is a paranormal being, i cant say, but it is a something.
mr_halo
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Apr 26 2005, 10:23 PM)
i think they saw a something.  Whether or not it is a paranormal being, i cant say, but it is a something.
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yes but they could of seen something very ordinary, but just seen it in a strange light, or just part of the creature...

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dragonlady_mothman
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Even if the Mothman is a sandhill crane and UFOs are the planet Venus...they're still something, right?


*points to siggy*
Amalgamut
"Tragedy on the River Ohio." - Mothman Prophecies

Haha, that was a cool movie.
dragonlady_mothman
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ Apr 26 2005, 05:46 PM)
"Tragedy on the River Ohio." - Mothman Prophecies

Haha, that was a cool movie.
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my favorite line! that and
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Hello John Klein...my name is Indrid Cold.
~TheBigK~
My favorite line from the movie is at the end when she says "wake up number 37" It gives me the chills. But anywho, I do believe the mothman exists. As to what it is I dont know. Walken introduced me to the cool theory that it's the angel of death, which is what I'm leaning towards thumbsup.gif
Falco Rex
I don't know if you missed the discrepency here but this experiment took place in 1996..the Mothman sightings were from late 60's..
You may want to retitle this. tongue.gif
dragonlady_mothman
he would have to be created before he was seen, no? and he'd have to escape from wherever he was created before he was seen, no?

and i said "about that time" didnt i? ^^; I didnt mean the two happened in the same year.

You'd think since i'm trying to earn the title of Undesputed Mothman Queen of Unexplained-Mysteries.com I'd learn when he was seen...

*snoogles Mothman plushie*
Falco Rex
Yes and yes..But the timeline here would indicate he was seen 30 years before an experiment that could create him was first tried, no?
dragonlady_mothman
DANGIT!

-_-

i see it. Somehow i was reading that as "1966" and, as you can imagien, i almost fell out of my chair because that's a Mothman theory. blush.gif
Falco Rex
No problem..Happens to all of us..It was still an interesting experiment to read about! thumbsup.gif
dragonlady_mothman
^^;

During the Mothman episode of Animal X, they said they were wondering if the chemicals in the igloos were being used to create something a little more...unique than munitions.

My thought train:

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I doubt they had that kind of genetic technology back then...then again, if they did, that's exactly what they'd want me to think!
MJB222
Thats wierd. blink.gif Kinda creepy also. unsure.gif
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