QUOTE(Richdog @ May 5 2005, 02:24 AM)
QUOTE(Mark47 @ May 4 2005, 03:01 PM)
unless you cant disprove my theory you cant prove yours. If you can prove that gravity cant cause jerky movements then you have a fact, but you havent done that. What you have said is that "yes gravity can cause jerky movement, but I like my expleantion for jerky movement better".
Dear God... I presume you're a teen, correct? I never said that gravity could not produce jerky movements, I said that I don't doubt it could. Please read my post and try to give me at least a semi-intelligent argument.
The fact is, as I have repeated about 10 times, there is far more going against that video than is going for it... I outlined a load of reasons in my earlier post.
You have one little reason... "gravity may cause jerky movements" and this is what you're basing your entire argument on... need I say more? It is a bit feeble, lets be honest here. Your argument is in the minority by a long way.
I'm not going to continue the debate with you until you start doing better than that, outline multiple clear reasons why you think the video real, just as I did for my logic behind it being a fake.
Until then pelase don't waste my time.
Cheers.

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I did not say that you didn't agree with the possibility it can be caused by gravity, what I have said is that in order to discount that possibility you have to actually prove it wrong, simply saying that my idea could be correct but you prefer your explanation does not validate your argument. The OJ simpson trial went on for years and there was lots of "evidence" for both sides of the case; it isn't the amount of evidence you have but the quality and that it is validated by reason. To do this you take it point by point, one at a time. The effect of gravity would make it look like a puppet therefore to say it is a puppet because it looks like a puppet, is like saying that a wheel travelling forward is actually travelling backwards because that is what it looks like to me. there are lots of explanations to make it look fake just as there are lots of explanations to make it appear to be real; therefore to find which is which, you take them one at a time. You would hardly expect the CSI team to walk into court and say to the judge, "he's guilty look at all the evidence we found"? You have to validate it with reason, not just "it looks like a puppet to me therefore it is a puppet" of course it looks like a puppet, that is the effect gravity alterations have, look at any space walk or lunar landing. If you cant effectively provide reasoning to support your claim then why should anyone expect that any of your other observations are any different, and nothing but unsubstantiated opinions?
Would you put a light bouncing up and down in a room if you were going to fake a video? Hardly. It is obviously there for a reason, the lights shon in the eyes were done so momentarily, and of course you are not going to see the body, its dark, as required by the need for low light; it is an interview, not a hollywood production, so they are not going to light up the body because they are not trying to prove anything, its just a record of events.