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croponline
Hello to everybody!
In Italy I live near a castle, called Trezzo.
I have a website where I put all my pictures and experiences.
In september 2004 I made this picure:

user posted image
Copyright 2004 - C.R.O.P.

Is it a ghost? It coul be a ghost...

http://www.croponline.org/trezzogallery.htm
copenhagon_btch
not sure....ummm...... mellow.gif yeah
ForRizzle
Did you make the picture on your computer or take the picture with a camera?
distortedpandy
QUOTE(ForRizzle @ Apr 27 2005, 02:57 PM)
Did you make the picture on your computer or take the picture with a camera?
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lmao..this is what my reply was gonna be...
croponline
With a Camera Canon eos 33,
manual esposition, diaframma 8, tempo 20 sec. posing...

excuse my english!

Hoagy
if that's an official, non-retouched picture, I am impressed!

but I wanna know the facts first...
distortedpandy
QUOTE(croponline @ Apr 27 2005, 03:10 PM)
With a Camera Canon eos 33,
manual esposition, diaframma 8, tempo 20 sec. posing...

excuse my english!
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any PSP done with it? laugh.gif

Ok..I will stop being mean.......please give us all the details...
Stroobos

What the bloody h*ck, if it's non-editted it looks very interesting alien.gif
coldethyl
what does the pic look like normally. i mean not blue/black, just the reg pic?
XSAS
QUOTE(croponline @ Apr 27 2005, 08:10 PM)
With a Camera Canon eos 33,
manual esposition, diaframma 8, tempo 20 sec. posing...

excuse my english!
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What does that mean?
ForRizzle
QUOTE
QUOTE(croponline @ Apr 27 2005, 08:10 PM)
With a Camera Canon eos 33,
manual esposition, diaframma 8, tempo 20 sec. posing...

excuse my english


Oh then it must be real! Sorry for the confusion thumbsup.gif
Xoisk el Soñador
as the info of the topic, you shouldn't put "i made these pictures"
Arlecchino
I don't know for sure but this picture just look's like light playing a trick. Though ofcourse I may be wrong it just seems like a nifty angle to me. If you check the history of the castle and find other reporting of ghost sightings i will change my mind because the light does look like a human body. Unless there are more people that have seen ghost's I beleive it is just the light playing tricks on you.
Lonecat
I've just aquired a desk-top computer (note-book) and it has an "effects" facility which can produce this sort of image, this texture. As for the "ghost", it is difficult to say without more information about the wheres and whyfores of the snap. To me it seems that the Sun is shining into a passage and illuminating some rough stones or masonry. Ghost? It could well be. But "it ain't necessarily so."
I wish your website had some sort of interactive element,such as a "contact" department. I am trying to learn Italian and hope to travel to Italy in the near future. I'd be glad to spend a night in that castle of yours! cool.gif Lonecat
Nightwatcher
Croponline, can you please tell us some more details of this photo? When and where it was taken?
coldethyl
QUOTE(xoisk @ Apr 28 2005, 12:08 AM)
as the info of the topic, you shouldn't put "i made these pictures"
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they said that because they don't speak english very well. just a simple mixing up of words.
croponline
Ok... I will try to give you some more details of this photo.

If you want, you can enter here and talk with my collaborators, there are people in my forum that speak english better then me:
http://www.croponline.org/forum/viewforum....4e5c7c90edcca99

Anyway...

A professional photoreporter, my collaborator, took this picture (I wrong the topic name... I meant "take", not "made"... excuse me!!) on 8 september, 2004, in a castle in Trezzo, near Milan, in Italy. I was with him in that moment, but we don't see anything righ now. We see the picture later and we realize the strange image.
I'm the prsident of C.R.O.P., a research center that study paranormal activity all around the world (we are trying to do these, it's not easy at all!) and we have some instrument that help us in our research.
There, in that castle, we register some anormal fact.

In our group we have some psychic that help us to discover those mysteries and, that day, they felt something in the air, someone of them heard a choir of women...
DIEPART
When i look at the negative its red/yellow???

How did you process this shot after you downloaded it to a computer?

Besides a lot of matrix... prob!

can we see the original...

Matrix can be any combination of elements
all forming our mystery man in what looks like armor?

Joe
coldethyl
post the original picture so we can see what it looks like, or give us a link to go and see it. i'd love to see the original.
croponline
Ok, this is the original picture:

http://www.croponline.org/images/trezzo35.jpg

I just used more contrast.


And here you can find the other pictures about our research in that castle:
http://www.croponline.org/trezzodadda.htm

http://www.croponline.org/trezzogallery.htm

http://www.croponline.org/trezzogallery2.htm

Bye!

Giorgio
Apparition
QUOTE(xoisk @ Apr 27 2005, 05:08 PM)
as the info of the topic, you shouldn't put "i made these pictures"
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He/she obviously isnt good with english. Cut him/her a break.
Im pretty sure 'Made' Means 'Took' as in ' I took this picture'.

Not that difficult really.

Awesome picture.
croponline
I'm italian!
Our "make a picture" is the same of your english versione "take a picture".

When you alle say "take a picture" it would seems in italian "to bring a picture"...

So, I was wrong, I'm sorry...
Be patience!

Bye!

Giorgio
TaintedDoughnuts
that is a very good picture! what kinds of instruments did you use?
croponline
Hi, I said it in a post before: a Camera Canon eos 33,
manual esposition, diaframma 8, tempo 20 sec. posing...
Excuse me for my english! I do my best!

Giorgio original.gif
Fable
I've been very impressed with what I have seen from you so far Giorgio. It's very hard to try and make a decision as to what we are seeing in the picture. If it were not for the board suspended above it I would say it was nothing more than a light trick. But, the 'apparition' does extend a bit to far into the dark for it to be attributed to a light source. I'm not sure what to make of it. Great picture though.
NEMO
Hi guy!

I've written a post also in the topic of the "UFO" photographed by Giorgio...

So if you want more details about the history of the castle, i'll post a shor article giving u the most important informations, ok?

I'll do my best to write it in a good english. wink2.gif


Bye!
Dog_Boy
Welcome to the board our Itallian friends.

Dont worry about the English too much, most of what you've posted we can work out no problem.

Your English is probably a lot better than most of our Itallian.

QUOTE
Camera Canon eos 33,
manual esposition, diaframma 8, tempo 20 sec. posing...
Excuse me for my english! I do my best!


I know the EOS 33 very well. Good camera.

Just for your information:

esposition = exposure
diaframma = aperture

As I say, we can work it out most of the time.
NEMO
I like u Dog Boy!! thumbsup.gif

As soon as I can I'll post the article.

Bye!
rayce
I, for one, look forward to your article! I would love to know the history behind this location.
Cernunnos
Shenanigans, that's what i say... if the place was really haunted, wouldn't anyone of us already 've heard of it? After all, in order for someone to go there, to find something interesting, there should be a legend or a story or whatever... Haven't seen anything about this place here. I'm afraid i have to call this one fake, until proven otherwise...
Cernunnos
as for the 'made', 'take' thing, we say even other stuff... "ik heb een foto getrokken" means literally: "i've pulled a photo(graph)"... wouldn't really want to do that literally...
rayce
QUOTE(Cernunnos @ May 2 2005, 03:58 PM)
Shenanigans, that's what i say... if the place was really haunted, wouldn't anyone of us already 've heard of it?  After all, in order for someone to go there, to find something interesting, there should be a legend or a story or whatever... Haven't seen anything about this place here.  I'm afraid i have to call this one fake, until proven otherwise...
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There are numerous haunted locations that I have never even seen mentioned on this site. There are also thousands of haunted locations through the world. The fact that you have never heard of the place or seen it mentioned on this site does not make it a fake.

At least wait until you hear the story behind the location so everyone can research it before accusing the individual who posted it of faking the thing (ie.. calling them a lier).
Cernunnos
Didn't mean to sound rude, but it does look like a lot of fake photo's i've seen...
Zackery00
If it hasn't been touched up in any way, this would definitly be a frightening photo.

You can destincivly make a shape out in the smoke or in the fog... whatever it may be. no.gif no.gif no.gif scary stuff mate, scary stuff.
rayce
QUOTE(Cernunnos @ May 2 2005, 04:21 PM)
Didn't mean to sound rude, but it does look like a lot of fake photo's i've seen...
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That wasn't what you said though.

Not trying to be rude to you at all. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. This is a new image with no story behind it yet so my opinion is presently neutral. The image does look very convincing though. Seeing the entire original is what convinced me so far. But I would definately like to hear about the location.
Barb
Hi.

I'm impressed! It seems to be a real ghost though ! thumbsup.gif

That photo it's the original or it's a copy and do you correct light etc ?

Barb
Falco Rex
Try as I might I just don't see a ghost in this picture, not in the original or the recontrasted version..
All I see is light and shadow extending back into the tunnel a short way that gives the illusion of a vague human shape. It's an interesting simulacra, but I'm not sure it would qualify as paranormal..
bob23
QUOTE(Zackery00 @ May 2 2005, 04:37 PM)
If it hasn't been touched up in any way, this would definitly be a frightening photo.

You can destincivly make a shape out in the smoke or in the fog... whatever it may be.  no.gif  no.gif  no.gif scary stuff mate, scary stuff.
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Well i belive it if it has NOT been touched up, cause I know how to make pictures kinda like this in photoshop. But some one said it has not been touched up in any way(i belive 1st page 2nd post)
Also dont say some things fake cause you never seen or heard of it befor no.gif
flyinghigh23
Hi Crop and Nemo,

Great picture. I have one question though: Is that a window off to the right where the supposed ghost is? Could it just be a light from outside beaming in, making it look like a figure? It does look like one though.
croponline
Rayce wrote:
"There are numerous haunted locations that I have never even seen mentioned on this site. There are also thousands of haunted locations through the world. The fact that you have never heard of the place or seen it mentioned on this site does not make it a fake."

I quote it!

In Italy there are a loto of hunted places...
I guess that I never heard of a lot of them too, but they exist!

There are a lot of things that we didn't know yet.

The picture is real, not fake.
The "presence" stand by a door, it's behind him.

Here you can see the original picture: http://www.croponline.org/images/trezzo35.jpg

As I said before, I just add to the contrast.

Nemo help me to comunicate with you,
she's helping my on the C.R.O.P. website to translate the articles in other languages.

You can find other mysteries on our website:
www.croponline.org

Here you can find the english section:
http://www.croponline.org/englishpage.htm

But is not big as the italian part... yet.
_hAiLO_
I believe it is untouched...I think its would be pretty hard to photoshop this image anyway. And I have basically the same question presented by 'flyinghigh23', is that a window to the right of the photo? Just a guess, but the image could have been projected from what looks like a window and show off some dust particles, but I really can't say.

In my opinoin, i've never seen a ghost photo in that color. Is that picture infrared? Can cameras detect ghosts, in infrared? Looks like an infrared picture that happened to pick up something cold.
NEMO
Hi guys!

Here it is some informations about Trezzo sull'Adda's Castle.
Soon i'll post some experience of our collaborators in that Castle.

THE LEGEND OF THE CASTLE
Trezzo sull’Adda’s castle rises near the shore of the Adda river, near Milan.
It was built in the Longobard age and then became the residence of Federico Barbarossa and then of the Viscontis . They say that this castel hide a big treasure, belonged to Federico Barbarossa, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire in the second half of the XII century.
There is also a story that tell that the ghosts of the Barbarossa’s army are still protect that treasure.

In this castle there are two wells. In one of them, the Viscontis threw down enemies captured during wars or “unwelcome” guests. Other were tortured, in fact on the basement there was the “drop’s room”. These basements are excavate in natural cave, so there are some places where drops of water fall down. This special room rises right there. The prisoners were tied down this falling drops that slowly excavate their head giving them an atrocious death.

On some walls of the basement there are some red stains. They say that it’s the blood of the thousands of people who died there who flow from the stone to remember to today’s men these sad and cursed events. Like for example, Bernabò Visconti’s daughter who were immured in the castle’s dungeon because she fell in love with the stableman, who died he too trying to defend her.
But here died also Bernabò Visconti himself, poisoned by Gian Galeazzo Visconti.


But there are other mysteries like the skeleton of a Longobard, found by some archeologist, 2,40 meters high! He might be an important person because he had a rich funeral equipment.

In the basement there are also a door, but in that place the ceiling fall down, so we can’t see where this door lead. But we think that it lead underground, to another castle near Trezzo, passing under the Adda river. In the Middle Age this passages were common, useful to run away in case of siege.
And someone think that right here Barbarossa hide his treasure


THE CASTLE’S GHOSTS

Like most castles, also Trezzo’s castle has some ghosts.
They tell that during the II WW, some German soldiers encamped in this castle. That same night were awaked by strange noises. They awaked and saw some soldiers with armours who invited them. They bring the german soldiers to their Sir and brought them something to drink.
The following morning they think it was a dream but… all of them had have the same dream! We think that they were the ghosts of an ancient army.
Then was also seen the ghost of Federico I, called Barbarossa, emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, who stayed in the castle maybe to defend his treasure… that is still inviolated.


Bye original.gif




rayce
QUOTE(NEMO @ May 3 2005, 12:41 PM)
Hi guys!

Here it is some informations about Trezzo sull'Adda's Castle.
Soon i'll post some experience of our collaborators in that Castle.

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Are there other names for the castle? I am unable to find a single thing online about this.
NEMO
If u type Trezzo sull'Adda you sure find something. Probably is in italian, Trezzo is only a village in the North of Italy.. I don't think they have an english page or something..

In Lombardia (region of North Italy) it's known, but I don't think that in the other parts of the world it is.

I hope that someone out of Italy find interest for this story, in this way maybe we'll discover something... (i don't know exactly what.. rolleyes.gif )

-Nemo-
rayce
QUOTE(NEMO @ May 3 2005, 03:27 PM)
If u type Trezzo sull'Adda you sure find something. Probably is in italian, Trezzo is only a village in the North of Italy.. I don't think they have an english page or something..

In Lombardia (region of North Italy) it's known, but I don't think that in the other parts of the world it is.

I hope that someone out of Italy find interest for this story, in this way maybe we'll discover something... (i don't know exactly what..  rolleyes.gif  )

-Nemo-
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Yep. Found a bunch of pages I can't read. I think I'll head for the library soon and see what I can find there.
croponline
This is the reason because we would to find foreigners collaborators, because there are a lot of interesting things that are known only here, in Italy.

There are a lot of castles, a lot of mysterious places.

So, if you all want to help us, contact us! crop@croponline.org

This is the website of the "Proloco of Trezzo on the Adda River"

http://www.comune.trezzosulladda.mi.it/upl...ellointerno.pdf


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Trezzo sull’Adda
Trezzo is located on the right bank of the Adda river, in the valley of a double curve between steep walls and conserves the rests of a Carolingian castle. According to the tradition, the castle has been erected in order to defend the river-crossing, as wanted by the Lombard queen Teodolinda. The complex is settled in a garden area, and the present ruins dominated by the squared 42-meter high tower, are the ruins of the castle built by Bernabò Visconti who, once prisoner of his nephew Gian Galeazzo, found his death.

In Trezzo you can also admire the Church of S. Gervasio and Protasio. This Church maintained the apses of the preceding Fifteenth-Sixteenth century Church hosting, in its interior, remarkable frescoes of Giotto and Bernardino Campi, beyond precious wooden masterpieces. The Sanctuary of Concesa, not so far away from Trezzo and erected around 1600, is in Baroque style and is linked to an ancient story. It is narrated that the Sanctuary has been built in a place where once was situated a spring that, worshiped by the village inhabitants, was mysteriously dried in 1580.
http://www.centrovolta.it/laviadellenergia...ismo/trezzo.htm
baastetnoir
QUOTE(croponline @ May 1 2005, 02:07 PM)
I'm italian!
Our "make a picture" is the same of your english versione "take a picture".

When you alle say "take a picture" it would seems in italian "to bring a picture"...

So, I was wrong, I'm sorry...
Be patience!

Bye!

Giorgio
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Its cool Giorgio... dont worry about it.... you already explained your point about 5times, no need to appologise anymore ... wink2.gif some ppl forget not everyone was born speaking English... imagine them speaking Italiano, huh ??? "Como fare" ??? lol

about your pic... to me its seems (in the original) that there is some sun light flair coming for the right side and that may cause that shadow ??? i dont know ? but its a good looking place you have there ! thumbsup.gif
nepukjon
Tis an interesting one, will keep looking and let you know what i think.....
flyinghigh23

Again, I ask whether that is a window to the right of the "figure"? Could there be light coming in from it? blush.gif
Nightwatcher
Hmmm. Fascinating. Never seen one as such. Cool site, croponline.
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