Not necessarily. The being, essense or whatever you choose to call it, that brought is all into existance would be better known as the Creator. The Creator is not man or woman but is rather the ALL. The Oneness.

The Goddess mother you are thinking of is known as Isis and dozens of other names throughout world history. Isis and Mary can both be seen as spiritual mothers of mankind.

the spirital mothers have many names yes but only with the harmonie of the father can the spirite of man be born.jesus brought forth the truth behind the father as one the first father that is ,was and will always be.without the the two you don't have the one

the gospel of truth is sheer perection and holy joy! for all those who've received their father's grace by knowing who he really IS.through the force of his word,which issued from the fullness of the godhead. that is christ,who is in the heart of his father,with the sacred task he's been set, to save and enlighten those in ignorance. this gospel gives hope of certainty for all who diligently enquire.

when the whole went seeking for the one from whome all come,the all was found to be the divine self, almighty god,inscrutable, indescribable,supreme. nescience had caused anxiety and fear, a smutty fog that made peaple feel blind. error became potent and,through folly,began creating with force and beauty a falsity of truth.this wasn't an embarrassment for the inscrutable, indescribable supreme; it was as nothing, this angst,forgetfulness and guile, for real truth is unchanging perfection.

Mad, I am glad you dug this thread up. It made me think we are getting away from the guidelines of this forum and it is starting to look like the Skepticism forum and I am as guilty as everyone else.

FlUFFY BUNNIES, FLUFFY BUNNIES and Posies all around. I banish all negitivity from the from this forum. So Mote It Be.

thanks and may god bless you

from this fact,learn to hate error, which lacked knowledge fo the source and dropp into dence mist, regarding the father, forming illusion to frighten and seize those beings exiting in the intermediates realm. the father didn't cause this error, although all emanates from him. knowledge came from him,that forgetfulness which causes error might be destroyed,

the gospel of christ, when sought, reveals the secret mysteries to those purifed through his grace, enlightening all encased in darkness through forgetfulness.he pointed out the way of truth, which he preached.error became enraged ,persecuted and attacked him, but was nullified by his sacrifice. crucified,he became a source of knowledg conserning his father.it didn't lead to annihilation bec his way was practised. those who practice rejoiced, discovering him in themselfs.

thank you for the banishing ,since you are the first to want to here of the father i ask these three what, where, and why ?

If I can be a little nosy Mad....what is your belief?

my beleif, well i'll put it this way i beleve in the father ,the mother and the son which the holy spirit makes me one plus the truth behind the first father our god as one.

Fair.

as for the inscrutable ,unknowable one ,the father,the flawless one,who created the all and contains the all and whom the all always needs, he held flawlessness within himself,which he didn't pass on to the all;he wasn't envious;what envy could there possibly be between himself and the all? for if the age had received his flawlessness, the all wouldn't have returned to the father.he holds their flawlessness, granting it as a boon to those who return to him with perfect knowledge of the unity.it is he who created the all; in him dwells the all;all have great need of him.our father wills that the nescient will eventually know and love him.

christ was teacher of all,peaceful and at ease. in houses of devotion he came and spoke his word.philosophers,wise in their own opinion,tried to refute him,he defeated them for they were ignorant,and in their folly they came to hate him.children came,those to whom knowledge of their father hadn't been forgotten,and he strengthened them.they learned about ,they knew,they worshiped the father.the living gospel of the father was inscribed on their hearts' splendour!

that which pre-existed in the father's will before his creation, within his inscrutabilty.
that secret tome which nobody could steal, for anyone who stole it would perish.
nobody among the faithful would have been saved unless this tome had been revealed. the all-loving christ was long- suffering in bearing the suffring of others, until he received that tome, since he knew his own death would bring new life for the multitude.
when a rich householder dies there's often a secret clause in his will revealing his fortune.
so it was with the all which dwelled secretly, while our father of the all, from whome all space emanated, remained unseen.
when christ came, he became the gnosis of that secret tome and was crucified.
he reveled the tome of his father by his death on the cross.
such a magnificent teaching!
he attracts his own death,
although life everlasting is his robe of glory.
having thrown off transient tatters,
he donned the cloack of durability, which nobody could steal.
having come to the vale of fear, he walked through it.
those who were naked and unclothed through forgetfulness gained understanding and flawlessness.
then they taught the truth from their hearts,to those open to receive.
those who were willing to learn his doctrine are alive and are inscribed in the book of life.
it is about their own real self that they hear teaching,
receiving it from their father and turning inward towards him.

it is necessary that the all shall aspire towards him,
for the flawlessness of the all is in him.
if the aspirant has understanding,
the father takes him back to himself.
for he who is trapped in necsience lacks,and what he lacks is crucial.
he needs that self knowledge which will make him flawless.
for the flawlessness of the all dwells in the father;
they must turn inward towards him.
he chose them beforehand and matured those who came from him.
those whose names he new in advanced were summoned for the end.
thus the names the father
has uttered have understanding;
the names of the nescient.
those who stay in nescience until the end are people of forgetfulness and will vanish.
why are these wretched ones nameless and not summoned?
only he who has the understanding that descends through grace is called.
he listens,responds, turns within and cleaves toward him.
he acknowledges his call and yearnes to perform his father's will;
he wishes to please him and is rewarded with peace.
each name comes before him,
knowing from where he came and where he is going.
the chosen knows,like a drunkard who has returned to sobriety.

christ has rescued many from falsehood;he has visited their hearts,from which they had strayed.

because of an abyss they fell into falsehood,the viod which enclosed a space in which nothing is enclosed.

it was a miracle;they were within the father while not recognising him,and they were able to walk on, for they failed to understand or to know the one in whom they dwelled.

if his will hadn't issued from him as revelation, the knowledge of how his various rays harmonise would have stayed in nescience.

this is the knowledge of the book of life he gave to twenty-three aeons at the end.

he showed how his sacred letters are neither vowels nor consonants, so that one could read them and think they were unwise.

yet they are letters of truth to those who know how to read.

each letter is a total conception, like a whole volume,for they are letters inscribed by the one!

our father composed them for all aeons so they would know him.

his wisdom meditates on his word,his doctrine unveils his knowledge.

patience is its crown; joy is in perfect concord.his splendour uplifts that which his will has unveiled.

This thread was created for the purpose stated above, please keep it on subject and use the appropriate thread for your dialogue.
Thanks Irish

yes and i agree and what better way then to start with the truth ,in order for you irish or any one else to know were my beleives are ,since the slate is cleaned and starting fresh ,i've only put on this, that what is my faith that of our father god,nor have i tried to debate any ones spirituality,religion and beliefs,i only talk about my beliefs like you say in the above.

his peace has taken it into itself,
his love has enrobed it,
his faithfulness has taken it to heart.

in this way the word of almighty god the father advances into
the all,as fruit of his heart's core and the seal of his will.

it maintains the all,elects
them and absorbs its effect.
it purifies, leading them back to
him and into the divine mother,
also to the christ of infinite sublimity.



the father unveils his heart,
the holy spirit.
he reveals what is secret,
his son, so through his grace
the aeons may know him,
but abide in him,
knowing that is true peace.


he who has no root has no shoot,
and although he imagines he has come
into existence,he will cease.

for he who does'nt truly exist
can never come into fullness
of flawless being.