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marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 06:36 PM)
ahhhh, i thought the pressure in my brain was building up too much... w00t.gif  w00t.gif
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yeah i noticed that too.
its all the one line answers to posts that give it away
marduk
QUOTE(marduk @ May 5 2005, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 06:36 PM)
ahhhh, i thought the pressure in my brain was building up too much... w00t.gif  w00t.gif
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yeah i noticed that too.
its all the one line answers to posts that give it away
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see
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The Roswell Man
hmmm.....
got me there. grin2.gif grin2.gif thumbsup.gif
marduk
uhuh
The Roswell Man
was it hapgood that made a book and thought that antartica was antlantis that had shifted to a new postition? huh.gif
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 07:21 PM)
was it hapgood that made a book and thought that antartica was antlantis that had shifted to a new postition? huh.gif
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uhuh
Essan
Actually, Hapgood himself never thought that Antarctica was Atlantis - that idea originated with Rand Flem-Ath. and was then popularised by Graham Hancock in Fingerprints of the Gods (although Hancock never actually mentioned the 'A' word, and I believe even he has since realised how ludicrous the idea is).

Hapgood actually thought he'd found Atlantis in the mid Atlantic - where the St Peter and St Paul rocks now are.
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ May 6 2005, 11:22 AM)
Actually, Hapgood himself never thought that Antarctica was Atlantis - that idea originated with Rand Flem-Ath. and was then popularised by Graham Hancock in Fingerprints of the Gods (although Hancock never actually mentioned the 'A' word, and I believe even he has since realised how ludicrous the idea is).

Hapgood actually thought he'd found Atlantis in the mid Atlantic - where the St Peter and St Paul rocks now are.
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uhuh
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greattenchim
what did Edgar Cayce say about atlantis in his readings!
Stixxman
he said that the first ruins of atlantis would become visible at this point in history and it would be a harbinger of the changing of the world.
marduk
QUOTE(Stixxman @ May 27 2005, 04:14 PM)
he said that the first ruins of atlantis would become visible at this point in history and it would be a harbinger of the changing of the world.
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actually he predicted that atlantis would rise from the ocean in the 1960s
isn't it funny how people forget he was wrong
maybe thats because "the edgar cayce foundation" is a business that still makes money from gullibles even today
ditto Zechariah Sitchen
ditto Graham Hancock
ditto
ditto
etc
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cerberus
In my opinion Plato must have meant one of the following;

- Atlantis was a real place, and was telling the story of it's demise.
- Atlantis is a myth, created by Plato for no real reason.
- Atlantis didnt exist, but was a fictional place created for moral learning.
- Atlantis did exist, but not on the scale ever talked about, but was used for moral learning.

The evidence seems to point out that no proof on Atlantis exists, other than Plato's odd musings. Remember this story is passed on by 3 people. We can't disprove the story being altered slightly with each telling.. like chinese whispers basically.

I'm going to go with the idea that Plato was teaching people a moral lesson. If Atlantis did exist, it was exaggerated wildly in my opinion.
Stixxman
QUOTE(marduk @ May 27 2005, 10:58 AM)
QUOTE(Stixxman @ May 27 2005, 04:14 PM)
he said that the first ruins of atlantis would become visible at this point in history and it would be a harbinger of the changing of the world.
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actually he predicted that atlantis would rise from the ocean in the 1960s
isn't it funny how people forget he was wrong
maybe thats because "the edgar cayce foundation" is a business that still makes money from gullibles even today
ditto Zechariah Sitchen
ditto Graham Hancock
ditto
ditto
etc
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no kidding Marduk thumbsup.gif
LucidElement
true i just took geology and the word was fit nicely together... plate tectonics move things around over time.. and thats why it got disconnected.
LucidElement
MARDUK Is always right.. so i guess Atlantis didn't happen, and hes sure about the man in the iron mask.. so i guess those two mysteries were solved.. thanks marduk.. =)
Essan
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 27 2005, 08:35 PM)

I'm going to go with the idea that Plato was teaching people a moral lesson. If Atlantis did exist, it was exaggerated wildly in my opinion.
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marduk
QUOTE(LucidElement @ May 27 2005, 09:55 PM)
MARDUK Is always right.. so i guess Atlantis didn't happen, and hes sure about the man in the iron mask.. so i guess those two mysteries were solved.. thanks marduk.. =)
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i offered no opinion on the man in the iron mask except to say that it's a really boring mystery. No aliens, no missing continents, no pyramids
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cerberus
Man in the Iron Mask..

Easy.. he was alien from Mars. Who built the pyramids, and lived on Atlantis.
cerberus
When Cayce predicted Atlantis would re-appear in the 60's... it didn't happen.. or did it?

If i'm right, and the story was about a moral teaching, perhaps Edgar was predicting the downfall of our society towards mass greed and corruption in the same way as Plato taught us.

marduk
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 28 2005, 10:39 AM)
Man in the Iron Mask..

Easy.. he was alien from Mars. Who built the pyramids, and lived on Atlantis.
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Essan
QUOTE(marduk @ May 28 2005, 10:30 AM)
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 28 2005, 10:39 AM)
Man in the Iron Mask..

Easy.. he was alien from Mars. Who built the pyramids, and lived on Atlantis.
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Nah you got it all wrong no.gif

He was an alien from Nibiru who built the Ziggurats and lived in Lemuria grin2.gif tongue.gif innocent.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Essan @ May 28 2005, 12:40 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 28 2005, 10:30 AM)
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 28 2005, 10:39 AM)
Man in the Iron Mask..

Easy.. he was alien from Mars. Who built the pyramids, and lived on Atlantis.
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Nah you got it all wrong no.gif

He was an alien from Nibiru who built the Ziggurats and lived in Lemuria grin2.gif tongue.gif innocent.gif
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so getting personal now essan
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and i thought you were my fwiend
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cerberus
Ok, so lets tell LucidElement the following..

The Man In the Iron Mask was an alien that took the wrong junction to the Reptilian fancy dress party on Nibiru, and ended up here. FACT. alien.gif

He told everyone he was a great guy. So they all worshipped him. Then he built the pyramids by himself and his anti-gravity gun, and chopped the stones with his lightsabre. He left a joke book in the sacred chamber, that was hidden because the jokes were believed to be so bad, they might affect humanity forever. One poor soul foolishly read one of the jokes, and died of forced laughter until he become Harry Hill. mad.gif

One was believed to be translated from the ancient crayola texts that read'..

'Twoe fishus in a tankus. Wan says twoe la uffer.. whose driving tis thang?' crying.gif

After realising his error, then he lived on Atlantis and told some Egyptian priest guy to tell Plato a pack of lies.. thumbsup.gif he lived there for a while but had to leave because one day, he couldn't help but press the button on the Atlantis control center panel, that said 'do not press this button, you schmuck'. huh.gif

Then, he fled Atlantis, after blaming it on some bloke called Jesus Christ (who would be born years later) and he went to Lemuria to marry a Lemur. He then burned the great library, because he didnt want a record of the doomsday jokes, as they become known, fancy dress and Lemur divorce c***-up (no pun intended) and to have the piss taken out of him back on Nibiru for shagging a cute, but furry looking animal.

Then he left Earth, and went to Homebase. On his travels, he had a bad accident. He stood on a floor of rakes in Homebase. He had to have an Iron Mask fitted by Kwik Fit to survive the accident, and thats why Kwik Fit are actually the Illuminati. It was all planned in advance by the Grays... AKA the Illuminati. mellow.gif This eternally funny rake stepping joke would solve his joke problem, and distract the earthlings whilst they visited our planet to stick probes up our butts. hmm.gif w00t.gif crying.gif blink.gif

It is believed that on the planet Homebase, there is a tablet that has a passage inscribed... again in an ancient crayola text saying 'Youe cante gettus bettaa thann ah kwikkfittfittar'. This text is supposed to refer to the Man in the Iron Mask.

After the Illuminati gave him god-like superpowers, he realised that he could come to back to Earth, and subsequently returned to Earth to become a Lawyer. ph34r.gif

It had been written in Crayola legends that 'Quite Unusual Iron Mask' as he had become known in fable, was actually Dyslexic. (No-offence to anybody who has dyslexia)

This was confirmed when the Gods asked him to come to a fancy dress party on the planet of Gummyshuffle a few weeks later. The 'Quite Unusual Iron Mask' came dressed as a GOAT after misreading the email. geek.gif

This wasnt so bad.. except that the Goat is a sacred symbol on Gummyshuffle, and the invitation clearly said 'TOGA party'. The Gods were not amused, and cast him from Gummyshuffle in with an owl and a pussycat, in a pea green boat. blush.gif

Then after that, and being laughed at by the whole of the galaxy for a few decades, he come to earth again, and got elected as George Bush. w00t.gif

My book was released yesterday, the anniversary of when LucidElement was born. laugh.gif
greattenchim
seems like their was famous russia pyshic long ago made precidition on altantis! cant remeber her name! all i remeber they were telling about her on a show on legend of atlantis!
marduk
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 28 2005, 08:11 PM)
Ok, so lets tell LucidElement the following..

The Man In the Iron Mask was an alien that took the wrong junction to the Reptilian fancy dress party on Nibiru, and ended up here. FACT.  alien.gif

He told everyone he was a great guy. So they all worshipped him. Then he built the pyramids by himself and his anti-gravity gun, and chopped the stones with his lightsabre. He left a joke book in the sacred chamber, that was hidden because the jokes were believed to be so bad, they might affect humanity forever. One poor soul foolishly read one of the jokes, and died of forced laughter until he become Harry Hill.  mad.gif

One was believed to be translated from the ancient crayola texts that read'..

'Twoe fishus in a tankus. Wan says twoe la uffer.. whose driving tis thang?'    crying.gif 

After realising his error, then he lived on Atlantis and told some Egyptian priest guy to tell Plato a pack of lies..  thumbsup.gif  he lived there for a while but had to leave because one day, he couldn't help but press the button on the Atlantis control center panel, that said 'do not press this button, you schmuck'.  huh.gif

Then, he fled Atlantis, after blaming it on some bloke called Jesus Christ (who would be born years later) and he went to Lemuria to marry a Lemur. He then burned the great library, because he didnt want a record of the doomsday jokes, as they become known, fancy dress and Lemur divorce c***-up (no pun intended) and to have the piss taken out of him back on Nibiru for shagging a cute, but furry looking animal.

Then he left Earth, and went to Homebase. On his travels, he had a bad accident. He stood on a floor of rakes in Homebase. He had to have an Iron Mask fitted by Kwik Fit to survive the accident, and thats why Kwik Fit are actually the Illuminati. It was all planned in advance by the Grays... AKA the Illuminati.  mellow.gif This eternally funny rake stepping joke would solve his joke problem, and distract the earthlings whilst they visited our planet to stick probes up our butts.  hmm.gif  w00t.gif  crying.gif  blink.gif

It is believed that on the planet Homebase, there is a tablet that has a passage inscribed... again in an ancient crayola text saying 'Youe cante gettus bettaa thann ah kwikkfittfittar'. This text is supposed to refer to the Man in the Iron Mask.

After the Illuminati gave him god-like superpowers, he realised that he could come to back to Earth, and subsequently returned to Earth to become a Lawyer.  ph34r.gif

It had been written in Crayola legends that 'Quite Unusual Iron Mask' as he had become known in fable, was actually Dyslexic. (No-offence to anybody who has dyslexia)

This was confirmed when the Gods asked him to come to a fancy dress party on the planet of Gummyshuffle a few weeks later. The 'Quite Unusual Iron Mask' came dressed as a GOAT after misreading the email.  geek.gif

This wasnt so bad.. except that the Goat is a sacred symbol on Gummyshuffle, and the invitation clearly said 'TOGA party'. The Gods were not amused, and cast him from Gummyshuffle in with an owl and a pussycat, in a pea green boat.  blush.gif

Then after that, and being laughed at by the whole of the galaxy for a few decades, he come to earth again, and got elected as George Bush.  w00t.gif

My book was released yesterday, the anniversary of when LucidElement was born.  laugh.gif
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I'll need a copy for when after i've been committed to an asylum
any day now
fongers crossed
marduk
QUOTE(greattenchim @ May 28 2005, 08:15 PM)
seems like their was famous russia pyshic long ago made precidition on altantis! cant remeber her name! all i remeber they were telling about her on a show on legend of atlantis!
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Madame Blavatsky
famous russian con artist and totally bonkers
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http://www.victorianweb.org/religion/blavatsky.html
Ancient World Wonders
Continental drift theory is quite real. Who knows about many landmasses have appeared and disappeared in Earth's history. Atlantis could have been one of them. Some theorists say America is sitting on it!
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 28 2005, 05:44 AM)
When Cayce predicted Atlantis would re-appear in the 60's... it didn't happen.. or did it?

If i'm right, and the story was about a moral teaching, perhaps Edgar was predicting the downfall of our society towards mass greed and corruption in the same way as Plato taught us.
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A stone wall or roadway appeared underwater when a plane was flying over the surface in Bimini about 1967-68. This stone formation that looks like a J is unnatural. These huge stones some theorise were moved by sonic vibration. You see every object has a sonic tone much like glass shatters at a high decibal. There's a guy who has an entire stone garden that he claimed (now dead) he was able to move each by sonic vibration. Through sonic vibration he was able to make each stone so light that it felt like a feather to move them into position. It was supposedly a secret the Atlanteans used. The Bimini Road -- a.k.a. the Outer Wall -- to Atlantis could have been done the same way. The lore of Atlantis is that they possessed technology far advanced even by our standards. No one knows for sure.
marduk
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QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE(cerberus @ May 28 2005, 05:44 AM)
When Cayce predicted Atlantis would re-appear in the 60's... it didn't happen.. or did it?

If i'm right, and the story was about a moral teaching, perhaps Edgar was predicting the downfall of our society towards mass greed and corruption in the same way as Plato taught us.
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A stone wall or roadway appeared underwater when a plane was flying over the surface in Bimini about 1967-68. This stone formation that looks like a J is unnatural. These huge stones some theorise were moved by sonic vibration. You see every object has a sonic tone much like glass shatters at a high decibal. There's a guy who has an entire stone garden that he claimed (now dead) he was able to move each by sonic vibration. Through sonic vibration he was able to make each stone so light that it felt like a feather to move them into position. It was supposedly a secret the Atlanteans used. The Bimini Road -- a.k.a. the Outer Wall -- to Atlantis could have been done the same way. The lore of Atlantis is that they possessed technology far advanced even by our standards. No one knows for sure.
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plato said that did he.
that they possessed technology far advanced even by our standards
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Ancient World Wonders
Marduk, you're foot is ever reaching higher to your mouth. It's call foot/mouth disease. wink2.gif Is Plato mentioned in my post? No. I said the lore. Plato is the source, but lore is the mythology surrounding the myth.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 6 2005, 12:48 AM)
Marduk, you're foot is ever reaching higher to your mouth.  It's call foot/mouth disease.  wink2.gif  Is Plato mentioned in my post?  No.  I said the lore.  Plato is the source, but lore is the mythology surrounding the myth.
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i know of only three sources for atlantis lore
1) plato
2) edgar cayce
3) madame blavatsky
Now considering that the first himself admitted it wasn't factual and the second was asleep at the time he said anything about it and the third was just completely bonkers
which do i rely on exactly
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi
this one seems to be where you get most of your factual information on the subject
Did i miss any ?
apart from hollywood !
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aquatus1
Atlantis, do you believe that the Bimini Road is not a natural formation?
Ancient World Wonders
I've never heard of that site, and it has no relation to my handle.

Plato wrote the tale. Edgar Cayce brought new light to Atlantis and its people. And Madam Blavatsky was a con artist.

I'm personally intrigued with E.C.'s readings. His accounts of Atlantis and its people are fascinating!
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 6 2005, 01:01 AM)
I've never heard of that site, and it has no relation to my handle.

Plato wrote the tale.  Edgar Cayce brought new light to Atlantis and its people.  And Madam Blavatsky was a con artist. 

I'm personally intrigued with E.C.'s readings.  His accounts of Atlantis and its people are fascinating!
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Then you have unfortunatly chosen a title that makes you sound like an "aliens did it" conspiracy theorist.
Maybe you should change it to something that represents what you stand for......
you got to agree that Edgar Cayce was asleep during his predictions..... right ?
should i set up a tape recorder next to my bed tonight in case i say something publishable
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Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 5 2005, 07:58 PM)
Atlantis, do you believe that the Bimini Road is not a natural formation?
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Yes, aquatus. I do not believe the stones are a natural formation. They are too unified to be a naturally occuring geologically formation. They are cut and put together too precisely. I also believe that the Bimini Road is not an abnormality either. They have to have been created by an advanced society.
aquatus1
How do you explain the uniform grain in the stone? Surely a construction wouldn't merit the effort of aligning all the strata lines in all the stones with each other. What would be the point? If, on the other hand, the whole thing was created as a natural formation, the strata lines of the stone would naturally align, having been created at the the same time.

A second question: You are completely convinced it is impossible for precise, geometric, natural formations to occur naturally?
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 6 2005, 01:09 AM)
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 5 2005, 07:58 PM)
Atlantis, do you believe that the Bimini Road is not a natural formation?
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Yes, aquatus. I do not believe the stones are a natural formation. They are too unified to be a naturally occuring geologically formation. They are cut and put together too precisely. I also believe that the Bimini Road is not an abnormality either. They have to have been created by an advanced society.
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We've been here before. Just cos it looks man made it doesn't neccesarily make it so
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this is natural
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and this is natural
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and this.
they all look a lot more manufactured than this
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or do you think the last picture is the remains of atlantis.....
really ?
betcha go all quiet now
aquatus1
Atlantis, surely you can agree that nature is fully capable of creating things that look quite man-made.

If you can agree to this, then it becomes a simpler matter to decide what the Bimini Road is.
marduk
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 6 2005, 01:18 AM)
Atlantis, surely you can agree that nature is fully capable of creating things that look quite man-made.

If you can agree to this, then it becomes a simpler matter to decide what the Bimini Road is.
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I'm still waiting to see if he's still claiming the last picture is man made
aquatus1
There is actually an identical formation to the one in Bimini right outside my apartment in the beach. From my place, it looks exactly like a road. Even when you snorkel over it, you would be hard pressed to decide if it was natural or man-made. It is, however, nothing more than a natural formation.

An interesting side-note is that there is actually an unidentified, man-made, platform in that area near the Bimini road, sunk a long time ago, however it is unlikely that it is any older than the local tribes.
Ancient World Wonders
I can agree that Nature has its wonders, but the Bimini Road is too unusual that I can't agree with you guys on this one. It's too unnatural for it to be Nature's calling-card.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 6 2005, 01:29 AM)
I can agree that Nature has its wonders, but the Bimini Road is too unusual that I can't agree with you guys on this one.  It's too unnatural for it to be Nature's calling-card.
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then maybe you should read this report from a geologist
you'll find that last picture at the bottom of the page labelled "Figure 5. Fractured beachrock at Loggerhead Key, Dry Tortugas."
http://www.csicop.org/si/2004-01/geologists-adventures.html
any thoughts ?

Ancient World Wonders
Hum, very interesting! I'll hafto read it.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 6 2005, 01:39 AM)
Hum, very interesting!  I'll hafto read it.
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Ancient World Wonders
Q, Marduk: What's your schooling? I'm curious.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 6 2005, 04:33 AM)
Q, Marduk:  What's your schooling?  I'm curious.
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English state school system.
like 95% of the other folk in my country
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Mr Ed
Atlantis, I don't know if you have seen it yet, but the guy claiming to be a half god has told us where atlantis is. laugh.gif laugh.gif
aquatus1
We have a half-god?
Mr Ed
This is to the beginning of the thread.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=42204


This is to the mention of Atlantis. He claims to be a half-god and a catholic...

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...pic=42204&st=90
Ancient World Wonders
... *laughs hysterically*
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