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Entity
As you know.. some pictures of weird tube structures were photographed on mars. Ok well, I was analyzing it with Photoshop and I discovered that something in the picture looked surprisingly similar! I've included two pictures to look at.

Ok, so explanation of what I see... As you know, if you’ve seen a hole made by a crab, groundhog, worm, anything, there is usually going to be a mound around the hole because when its digging it, the dirt has to go somewhere!!....got it so far? So now look at the first picture I've pointed out in Photoshop. You can see dirt falling off the edge of the cliff, so this caught me by surprise and I thought it was pretty awesome that it caught it in action. So then I looked at where it was coming from and I noticed there were 2 main hills.. pretty simple right? Well what do you see at the peak of the hill? HOLES! So we have a hole with a big mound of dirt around it and its falling off the cliff meaning the mound is growing.

Then look closer at the hole on the left in the second picture... looks like a vole or something doesn’t it! and look at the thing on the right! It has the same exact shape if you look closer, kind of looks like a anvil on top of the nose, or machine or whatever. So these things aren’t transporting water... not gas... but I think that’s how they are digging so deep, by "pumping" the dirt out!

Two more things to consider, look at that thing sticking out of the hole in the middle, you can see dirt and dust coming off of it!

Then look at the thing I circled on the very right, looks like thats a tube and the dirt is coming directly out of it!

tell me what you think!


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snuffypuffer
The things you say are looking out of the holes don't show up as clearly as the holes around them, even though they'd be at about the same level. This means that what you're seeing is really just the way the light and shadows are mingling inside the craters. The tube things are kind of interesting, but I really think you're letting your imagination run away with you.
Amalgamut
Its Elvis!!!
Michelle
I can't really see too much, crap computer. hmm.gif They are strange holes aren't they?

I predict with your natural and healthy curiosity you will go far. thumbsup.gif
snuffypuffer
Another thing, if you look closely at the "tubes" you'll see that they are actually part of the surrounding landscape, and not separate entities. The marks look like they are there naturally, due to erosion and wind wear.

But it is nice to imagine.
Entity
I agree with you that the things looking out is far fetched and I was just kinda jokin around with that but they do look like holes, and not craters. And also, the tubes are IMO are a seperate entitiy since you can actually see where they seperate when they go down that huge hole. If it was wind erosion, it wouldnt be the same wind speed and direction going down that hole, which means if they were a product of errosion they would stop right before it.
snuffypuffer
Look closer, entity. The tubes blend into the background, they don't come up out of it. Especially in the crater at the top right hand corner of the top picture, you can clearly see where the tube joins with the ground behind it. It's an unusual rock formation, to be certain, but it's nothing that can't be attributed to the geology of the planet.
Kryso
They are interesting and warrant more investigation. But I’m with Snuffy when he mentions the fact that is hard to see the difference between the hole and what you say is a “being”!
rachelkleypassparrow
It has to be big to be picked up from that distance. Your theory and the size of the holes I suddenly remembered the film 'Dune' and the large underground Earthworms.
Entity
I agree about those things being a trick of light and shadows lol I just thought it was cool looking. And I agree that the tubes may be unusual rock formations. but I just dont understand how three of the same formations and come from three directions if it was wind. Maybe when there was water on the surface, it carved out those valleys leaving formations on the bottom. And maybe the water went down the hole explaining them all coming from different directions. I have no clue, but they definately weird looking and nothing I've seen before. How do you think they got on the sides of the walls though? Because I've seen some nassa pics where they are almost hanging, could be a trick of light again but I hope NASA will take some more pics!
snuffypuffer
It depends on what distance these pictures are coming from. If it's something from the rover, it could just be the way the minerals have crystallized. I'm no geologist, but when you get down to a certain level, rocks can form in some weird ways. If the photo's been taken from orbit, there are all kinds of things that could have gone into forming those tubes.

Do you have anymore information on the pics, like where they came from and at what distance they were taken?


And by the way, it is so nice to see you actually listening to what everyone has to say. So many kids get all pissy whenever someone starts pointing things out to them.
Entity
lol thanks, ya I'm not like that, I hate when people get annoyed when they say soemthing controversial and only expect their opinion to come out of everyone. lol

The tubes are one the NASA site and I attached a few more below.


I work with a lot of digital images and make a lot of 3d artwork so I have to creat texture for things, etc. And so i know what different properties that different materials have. What gets me confused is the high specularity on the "plastic" part (the bright spot)
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here is another picture from this site it shows how it shows features of a round tube made out of a plastic or glass material (or some unknown material)
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Now the only other things it could be is, instead of a tube and sticking out of the ground, it may be an illusion and is actually like a slide in the ground. Kind of like those illusions where you can make a 3d cube look like its open or closed

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This is one possibility, maybe that is the case and if it is like a slide. Then maybe it was carved out by something like a glacier and each of those "bars" may be where the glaciers stopped ever winter when it refrose. Then in the spring, maybe the glaciers melted some and moved a little further, then stopped again the next winter. In fact I just thought of this and this may be the case ohmy.gif haha

then again it really looks like its comming out of the side in this picture, and a glacier type thing could move along a wall disgust.gif
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it could be a number of things!!! here are some more pictures of the tubes from other places throughout mars...

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And I cant find it now but I found an image of one of these tubes taking a perfect 90 degree angle which is pretty impossible for a natural made thing to do, and it wen into one of the pyramid looking things on mars...

also " There are miles and miles of them. The diameter of the
tubes is tremendous...20-40 meters in general. That's
about big enough to put two interstate highways through."

Tell me what you think
Entity
Here are some other very interesting photos taken from mars which leads me to beleive its not too far fetched to think the tubes may be artificial...

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water?..
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/jpl-image...EVP2557L4M1.JPG

an interesting article...
"LONDON (Reuters) - An unexplained phenomenon akin to a space-borne car wash has boosted the performance of one of the two U.S. rovers probing the surface of Mars, New Scientist magazine said on Tuesday.

It said something -- or someone -- had regularly cleaned layers of dust from the solar panels of the Mars Opportunity vehicle while it was closed down during the Martian night.

The cleaning had boosted the panels' power output close to their maximum 900 watt-hours per day after at one stage dropping to 500 watt-hours because of the heavy Martian dirt.

By contrast, the power output of the solar panels of Mars Spirit -- on a different part of the Red Planet -- had dropped to just 400 watt-hours a day, clogged by the heavy dust.

"These exciting and unexplained cleaning events have kept Opportunity in really great shape," the magazine quoted NASA rover team leader Jim Erickson as saying. "


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Thats enough lol

zandore
Welcome to the UM Forum Entity.
QUOTE(Entity Posted Today @ 04:16 PM )
Thats enough lol
I bet. thumbsup.gif
I have seen many of these pic online and there are many more. a lot of them are in-color too.
JohnnyBoyC
posiibly...
__Kratos__
I think someone watched "Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back" a little too much! tongue.gif (You know... the part when Solo and the guys were in the asteroid and it turned out to be a huge worm like creature)
fallingalien
its from comets adn stuff hitting it
Entity
lmao I've maybe seen star wars once haha and i dont even remember it so dont think thats why... disgust.gif


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  its from comets adn stuff hitting it


what is?
Mr Slayer
Those pictures were interesting.
The "pacman" myriads I have not seen before.

As a biologist, I agree that those things depicted on the two latter pictures look at least as algae or something. geek.gif I remember reading somewhere that Mars actually has a blue sky and a atmospheric composition more like our own than we´re originally been told to...conspiracies no.gif

The "tubes"....hmmm... are like ghost pictures; (And the "vegetation" pictures I described as well )
they are all well too easy interpreted by our brain as "something"... Our mind desperately seeks out patterns in everything, bushes, stones, walls, floors...how common isn´t the phrase "that thing reminds me of a face".

Personally, take the Face of Mars...it´s nothing but a common rock. hmm.gif
The Cydonia, on the other hand, MIGHT be something entirely different.
cAvEmAndrEw
The "tubes" appear to me the same similar type of hole(s) as in a piece of "lava rock".
I was at the Franklin and Sterling Mines (NJ) Sunday and saw alot of rocks with the same type(s) of holes. It's almost as if there were gases trapped inside and through the course of wind erosion they've become exposed. I dunno, just a thought.
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