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JohnnyBoyC
Well, i forget the proper name for it but there is atheory that a Meteoroid hit Earth, drenching it in Bacterial Life it addapted to plankton to coral to spo0nge to fish to anphibiands to rats to apes to humans and split off from different places creating the plants and animals that Earth is covered in. But the question is where? Could it be Mars, knowing they were becoming extinct so they sent there life here and evacuated the Planet? Or the same thing for somewhere else? What do u think?
Amalgamut
It could be possible.

But all the bacteria that would have been on that asteriod would probably have either...

1) Died in space before it made it to earth.

2) Burnt up in the atmosphere. (The bacteria)

3) Burnt up when the asteriod hit the earth in the explosion/collision.

or

4) All of the above.

It would be very hard for any form of bacteria to live through one, if not all of the things stated above.
marduk
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ Apr 29 2005, 11:22 PM)
It could be possible.

But all the bacteria that would have been on that asteriod would probably have either...

1) Died in space before it made it to earth.

2) Burnt up in the atmosphere. (The bacteria)

3) Burnt up when the asteriod hit the earth in the explosion/collision.

or

4) All of the above.

It would be very hard for any form of bacteria to live through one, if not all of the things stated above.
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not neccesarily amalgut.
it could have survived the journey in a suspended state and been reanimated by the heat of the impact
doesn't mean i believe it either
its bull
lol
Amalgamut
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 29 2005, 04:41 PM)
not neccesarily amalgut.
it could have survived the journey in a suspended state and been reanimated by the heat of the impact
doesn't mean i believe it either
its bull
lol
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Yeah me too.
marduk
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ Apr 29 2005, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 29 2005, 04:41 PM)
not neccesarily amalgut.
it could have survived the journey in a suspended state and been reanimated by the heat of the impact
doesn't mean i believe it either
its bull
lol
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Yeah me too.
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Actually i am from someplace else
i live in berkshire but grew up in essex
so ner w00t.gif
Super Pancake
Theory of Panspermia i believe it is called.

There is a bacteria that can survive extreme heat and breaths iron perfect conditions for the lava vents down in the ocean and asteriods, I think there called extremenites but maybe ther is another name for it. But i doubt humans could have evolved from them. here is an old article I saved a while ago germs from outer-space
marduk
QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Apr 30 2005, 12:55 AM)
Theory of Panspermia i believe it is called.

There is a bacteria that can survive extreme heat and breaths iron perfect conditions for the lava vents down in the ocean and asteriods, I think there called extremenites but maybe ther is another name for it. But i doubt humans could have evolved from them. here is an old article I saved a while ago germs from outer-space
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i can see how the theory of indirect panspermia could be valid
but direct panspermia
ha
don't think so
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JohnnyBoyC
well we have discovered Bacteria that has survived inside of rocks for Billions of years. In fact the oldest living thing on the planet is 3.8 billion yearss old. Preserved in a rock and re-animated by heat so this theory deserves recgonition
Kryso
The truth is anything is possible. Because no one knows how it all started so any hypothesis could be the correct one!
elfbwillow
lol I didn't know what on earth the theory of panspermia was, so I did a quick research on its meaning! And I have to add that it remined me of the theory on how the earth was created acording to the hitch hykers guide to the galaxy - where aliens created us - and I had a picture in my head of aliens painting the sea and hedges etc (sorry about that - I just had to share)

I also read this 'debate' on the theory which I found quite interesting;

The Debate of Panspermia: Are We the Descendents of Aliens?

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Conspiracy
watch the movie 'evolution' and see grin2.gif
marduk
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ May 5 2005, 05:35 PM)
watch the movie 'evolution' and see grin2.gif
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watch any movie that has et's on earth and see
The Roswell Man
QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Apr 30 2005, 12:55 AM)
Theory of Panspermia i believe it is called.

There is a bacteria that can survive extreme heat and breaths iron perfect conditions for the lava vents down in the ocean and asteriods, I think there called extremenites but maybe ther is another name for it. But i doubt humans could have evolved from them. here is an old article I saved a while ago germs from outer-space
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they called extremophiles.
and the common ancestor was probably just a mixture of organisms that sh ared dna and other amino acids and such....
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 05:54 PM)
QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Apr 30 2005, 12:55 AM)
Theory of Panspermia i believe it is called.

There is a bacteria that can survive extreme heat and breaths iron perfect conditions for the lava vents down in the ocean and asteriods, I think there called extremenites but maybe ther is another name for it. But i doubt humans could have evolved from them. here is an old article I saved a while ago germs from outer-space
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they called extremophiles.
and the common ancestor was probably just a mixture of organisms that sh ared dna and other amino acids and such....
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germs from outer space, sounds like a movie
the local ones are bad enough
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The Roswell Man
there are sum good bacteria (remember that advert about probiotic drink(s)?)
and good viruses thumbsup.gif original.gif
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 06:33 PM)
there are sum good bacteria (remember that advert about probiotic drink(s)?)
and good viruses thumbsup.gif  original.gif
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lol
thats just a con
its just a way of them marketing a yoghurt with a little revamped fact
all yoghurt drinks contain bacteria,
eating things with bacteria is part of the process of life.
All they've done is found a way of making them sound yummy
The Roswell Man
yep
i bought some once cause i was gullible to marketing
but neva since then
i wonder if they going to develop
and sell fruit flavour bacteria
in lolly pops etc...? huh.gif
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 07:15 PM)
yep
i bought some once cause i was gullible to marketing
but neva since then
i wonder if they sell
fruit flavour bacteria
in lolly pops etc...? huh.gif
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Bacteria are in all things not sold hermetically sealed and prepared in a totally sterile environment
so,
its in the air we breathe
duh
The Roswell Man
yes but we do not digest bacteria from air
our immune system puts pay to that.
fallingalien
no, it couldn't happen, it wouldn't even make sence.
marduk
QUOTE(fallingalien @ May 5 2005, 07:33 PM)
no, it couldn't happen, it wouldn't even make sence.
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???
if you're talking about the bio yoghurts it already has happened.
The Roswell Man
mayb he was talking about our ancestory that we may be martians or sumthing?? hmm.gif huh.gif blink.gif unsure.gif
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 07:57 PM)
mayb he was talking about our ancestory that we may be martians or sumthing?? hmm.gif  huh.gif  blink.gif  unsure.gif
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newbies don't have to make sense
The Roswell Man
fallingalien has been around long enuff not to be a newbie. w00t.gif
marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 5 2005, 08:32 PM)
fallingalien has been around long enuff not to be a newbie. w00t.gif
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yeah
almost a month now
aurelian
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ Apr 29 2005, 10:22 PM)
It could be possible.

But all the bacteria that would have been on that asteriod would probably have either...

1) Died in space before it made it to earth.

2) Burnt up in the atmosphere. (The bacteria)

3) Burnt up when the asteriod hit the earth in the explosion/collision.

or

4) All of the above.

It would be very hard for any form of bacteria to live through one, if not all of the things stated above.
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it is know that bacteria can survive in the most hostile places! so it is possible that we are from somewhere else.
LarryOldtimer
Abbot to Costello: "I can prove you aren't here."
Costello: Then prove it
Abbot: Are you in Chicago?
Costello: No
Abbot: Are you in New York City?
Costello: No
Abbot: Are you in Paris?
Costello: No
Abbot: So if you aren't in any of those places, you must be somewhere else, and if you are somewhere else, you aren't here.
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iaapac
Why does the idea that humanity originated from elsewhere need to be confined to a biological source? When you consider the plural "gods" mentioned in Genesis and the fact that Adam was put to sleep to create Eve (much like a surgical process) and the innate belief that superior beings are always "up there," could that not be a more logical answer?
marduk
QUOTE(iaapac @ Jul 30 2005, 12:37 AM)
Why does the idea that humanity originated from elsewhere need to be confined to a biological source?  When you consider the plural "gods" mentioned in Genesis and the fact that Adam was put to sleep to create Eve (much like a surgical process) and the innate belief that superior beings are always "up there," could that not be a more logical answer?
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you'd be better off realising that Genesis is heavily abridged from other sources before you draw any conclusions about the nature of God Iaapac
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Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(marduk @ Apr 29 2005, 06:41 PM)
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ Apr 29 2005, 11:22 PM)
It could be possible.

But all the bacteria that would have been on that asteriod would probably have either...

1) Died in space before it made it to earth.

2) Burnt up in the atmosphere. (The bacteria)

3) Burnt up when the asteriod hit the earth in the explosion/collision.

or

4) All of the above.

It would be very hard for any form of bacteria to live through one, if not all of the things stated above.
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not neccesarily amalgut.
it could have survived the journey in a suspended state and been reanimated by the heat of the impact
doesn't mean i believe it either
its bull
lol
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Like the Black Oil?
Rev.Heretic
QUOTE(Kryso @ May 1 2005, 01:34 PM)
The truth is anything is possible. Because no one knows how it all started so any hypothesis could be the correct one!
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If the theory "anything is possible" is true, would it be possible for me to disprove that theory? happy.gif

Well I am working on a theory called Generation 50. It's main argument is about linear timelines running in parallel (not a supernatural thing btw) of a certain species progression. Prophecies tell of these being the end times, but you dont have to pay attention to that. Our species is becoming interested in colonisation of other planets/moons now aren't we? We are near to a point where that can become feasible, and when it is feasible there is nothing to stop us doing so.

Im saying we are just another regeneration of our species, down the line, draining a planet or getting to the point of ability to colonize. We are just the 50th generation of humans (the number not known, just for helping you follow this - a hypothetical number to represent we are NOT the 1st and NOT the only) , and probably back at generation 45 for instance, we came to colonize this planet. Each generation has to start again, and we are only rediscovering things known before, and possibly following the same pattern that doomed our ancestral generations. Each generation can be ended by apocalypse and extinction, displaced or evacuation.

To say that we came from outerspace, placed here by our previous generation is not absurd, as we are about to embark on doing that same thing soon. Then if we do, and the colony succeeds, thousands of years down the line they will approach an advancement like ours, want to colonize and will ALSO say "Generation 51 theory?? What aload of bollocks." Quite a humorous paradox you can enter here because this blocky theory so far has plausible substance.
isis-999
Ok.. Your joking right! w00t.gif
Rev.Heretic
Support your feedback as to why you may think that is out of the question ?
isis-999
My feedback..what proof do you have that Mars and egypt are tied together..This is your theory..thus meaning the burden on proof fall's to you..I am listening. tongue.gif
Rev.Heretic
I just ask that readers read carefully and not to confuse threads ... where have I tied mars and egypt together here? Thats not part of my theory..
Burden is on your observation skills.
isis-999
As i thought.! I would post, but since you left what is the point. grin2.gif
marduk
Generation 51 theory?? What a load of bollocks
how does it explain that on arrival on earth we suddenly reverted to bacteria and then single celled protozoa and then fish, insects, early amphibians, then reptiles, mammals, primates and finally humans.
does this theory have some sort of technology involved that reverses 540,000,000 years of evolution. if not then i'm afraid yes "Generation 51 theory?? What a load of bollocks"
still as early newbie theories go its not all bad.
if you stick around a while Rev you'll see exactly what I mean as newbie after newbie joins posts and only THEN learns how to use the search function.
in other words your theory has been done already.
in many various and myriad variations.
Personally i would direct you to http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...46419&hl=sirius
for origin theories its the best available.
well
at least it fits all the facts
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Rev.Heretic
lol funny how when someone lays down their two cents its met with hostility. What prevents life from already being on the planet when we arrived? This theory didnt say we "reverted" to anything. It says we could not be the only humans around. See the mainstream idea is self-centred around how the world "evolved" around us, so prevents ideas like mine being taken for what it is? heh

Don't condescend me with the search function talk. While adventurous, I've contributed something with thought in to this pretty bland topic, get off your high horse; its a theory, an early one ive philosphied about.

Isis you make me laugh, spit it out and stop saying I left - post me your views you talk about, and do it in a mature manner. I waited for 10 mins then surfed other parts of the site, the post doesnt leave with me!

marduk
lol funny how when someone lays down their two cents its met with hostility
"you think that was hostile"
i'll let that go as you're still a newbie
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isis-999
QUOTE(Rev.Heretic @ Aug 1 2005, 07:35 PM)
I just ask that readers read carefully and not to confuse threads ... where have I tied mars and egypt together here?  Thats not part of my theory..
Burden is on your observation skills.
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My skills say you know little of egypt.. if you did we would not be playing the word game!.. thus i would not have to explain why they built and for what reason they built so large , you would already know! tongue.gif And beside's my dear Marduk bet me to it anyway! w00t.gif
iaapac
Permit me to interrupt with several observations supporting the idea that man has an extraterrestial origin. The creation account in Genesis clearly dates back to legends long before the formation of the Old Testament and threads of information are there with solid hints about what could well have happened.
I find it interesting that Adam was put to sleep in the process of creating Eve. That suggests a surgical procedure and gives us a new perspective.
The plurality of gods is interesting. "Let us make man in our image," and "let him not eat of the tree of knowledge lest he become immortal like us." Don't fall back on the Holy Trinity on this one because the concept of the trinity didn't enter the church until 325 A.D. The suggestion is that there were several involved in the creation of man and woman and that the process was far less than miraculous or divine.
Tales told by the ancients and found on clay tablets in the basement of the British Royal Museum clearly depict the creation of man to be a worker.
Likewise, it is clear that Adam and Eve were not alone on the planet as the first creations. When Cain was accused of killing his brother and threatened with a mark to be put on his head, he asked God not to do it because "the others will surely kill me." What others?
And then Cain was expelled and went to the Land of Nod where he built a city. For who?
The sudden and advanced knowledge given to mankind had to have an origin. The astonomy of ancient times was incredibly advance to the point of predicting eclipses. Thousands of examples exist of human awareness and knowledge of things that could not have been learned in so few generations if there had not been givers of that knowledge.
Finally, I like the idea that we originated from an advance civilization from out there somewhere. Maybe through our space programs we are expressing the same "homing instinct" that governs so many other life forms on this planet.
Cebrakon
QUOTE(elfbwillow @ May 1 2005, 04:54 PM)
lol I didn't know what on earth the theory of panspermia was, so I did a quick research on its meaning! And I have to add that it remined me of the theory on how the earth was created acording to the hitch hykers guide to the galaxy - where aliens created us - and I had a picture in my head of aliens painting the sea and hedges etc (sorry about that - I just had to share)

I also read this 'debate' on the theory which I found quite interesting;

The Debate of Panspermia: Are We the Descendents of Aliens?

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blink.gif I believe in litho-spermia, one of the types in that debate. To explain it, let's consider what will happen to Earth at the end of the life of the Sun, 5 giga-yr or so from now. First, the sun will become a red giant, practically filling our sky. This will desiccate the Earth, and bacteria will dehydrate to form bacterial spores. This is just a dehydrated and crystallized bacterium. This will include all those extremo-philes that live inside ocean hot vents, or miles below the surface of solid ground.

w00t.gif Next, the Earth will be blown to smithereens as the sun forms one of those lovely creations called a "planetary nebula", and those bacterial spores lucky enough to be inside a dust grain will get blown across interstellar space. After millions of years, it may enter the atmosphere of a new planet having water. Dust does not burn up entering the atmosphere. It filters into our atmosphere and very slowly settles to ocean or land. Crack open the dust grain, and add water, and the bacterium will grow. This is testable. All we have to do is collect some genuine interstellar dust, break open the dust grains, and add water, under very sterile conditions similar to the early Earth atmosphere (no O2, No N2, mostly CO2, sulfides, ammonia and methane.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dr.H, 35th degree, Order of the Steel Circle~~~~
marduk
when the sun becomes a red giant it will suck every little piece of the solar syatem into it and it will all be annihilated
unless these bacteria of yours posess some form of anti gravity technology that dog won't hunt.
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Rev.Heretic
Interesting views, all depicting the possibilities of origin. Isis, the little I do know of egypt is the observations of their abilities I have stated, I did not claim to be an egypt scholar. You said yourself you have the answers yet you say I know already. You have yet to share your 'real answers' about egypt, but yet you keep on patrionising me :S. And you havent even corrected yourself at being wrong saying my theory even mentions mars and egypt - anyone point that out? Stop arguing with me and shed some light on the subject please since you have studied egyptian history. grin2.gif

What others have posted here is interesting, I'd like to explore it more.



isis-999
Ask, and i will answer! grin2.gif innocent.gif
Rev.Heretic
I guess what really interests me about the subject Isis is, is it known what these structures were used for, as in was it maintained on record? What exactly did the glyphs inside record?
marduk
QUOTE(Rev.Heretic @ Aug 2 2005, 05:28 PM)
I guess what really interests me about the subject Isis is, is it known what these structures were used for, as in was it maintained on record?  What exactly did the glyphs inside record?
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The pyramids were built to honour the gods of the egyptians.
the egyptian pharoahs themselves thought they were gods
building bigger and bigger monuments is a good way of assuring you will be regarded as a powerful deity yourself in the afterlife, both by the gods you now mix with and the humans you leave behind. This ensures you are still worshipped after you're death which means more spiritual power in the afterlife
kind of "look at what i did and remember oh and by the way send me up some more of that spiritual energy cos i'm arguing with Thoth and i want to kick him hard in the ass"
thats as simple as i can put it
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Rev.Heretic
With good old egyptian analogies, cheers tongue.gif Yea that's kinda fitting with what my instinctive thought about it was - aim to impress with their work. But did they utilise them in there day to day life too? All that work that seemed to be ongoing, recording those glyphs (I've heard they were a history book/calandar)
Does anyone know what was recorded of interest?
Ancient World Wonders
Anything of interest was recorded. But just that somethings can't be found or are lost to history doesn't mean everything of interest was found. It may be still buried or the sands of time may've destroyed it. Fact-of-the-matter is nothing is "written in stone" and everyday history is changed with new discoveries.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Aug 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
Anything of interest was recorded.  But just that somethings can't be found or are lost to history doesn't mean everything of interest was found.  It may be still buried or the sands of time may've destroyed it.  Fact-of-the-matter is nothing is "written in stone" and everyday history is changed with new discoveries.
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I would go for probably still buried actually
you know in mesopotamia there are entire cities that have been completely submerged for millenia with all their inhabitants of the previous millenia still in them. the temples are still there. the texts are still there "written on stone" and everything that was there on the last day it was abandoned before the delta flooded again and they finally gave it up as a lost cause and moved further north.
Try and imagine pompei and herculaneum but in a medium that preserves everything rather than burns everything and about 50o times the size.
just a pity its underneath the most hotly contested warzone of the last century
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the americans jettisoned some ordonance at the end of the runway because it is the normal procedure in an emergency landing and its not their fault that the 3500 year old ziggurat of Ur was right on the drop zone. was it
the stupid b**t***s
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