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cool, I get where your comin from but how do you know we are descended from dragons? And the whole cat killin a bird because it thats all it knows and how we're conditioned to not have this trate seems a bit survival of the fittest and kinda nazi styley. not good....
It all seems a bit far fetched with no proof to me.
Maybe makind is amazing enough without the far out storys.

Hey, I'm a warm blooded creature!!!

This is so hard to swallow? Mind you with a fork tongue it can be extremely difficult!
Err..! Don't worry about the challenge I'll give that one a miss...!

Ps...Welcome to the forum Evon...!

uhh, I hate snakes dude,just like Indiana Jones. I see the serpents as non-good intentioned biengs,ive heard not one good thing from any supposed encounter with them. anyways welcome to the forum

Thanks people. Just thought I'd toss out a few theories and see what other people think.

Also look at the dragon symbol in Ancient Sumeria. They are the ones who guarded the stargates to heaven, other planets, etc... It is mankinds distortion of these creatures who ascended to heaven that has caused so many problems in this world. The Roman Catholic Church just put more wood on the pyre when they helped invent the Satanic notion of evil and hell and beastie dragons anti-christs. The only Anti-christ on this planet is the church. The Cathars believed this and I guess you could call me a modern day Cathar on a mission for truth.
The only thing we should fear is fear itself.

What a bunch of goobers in red those cardinals are. The first Christian teachers were also women but people don't do the research and listen to much to what their told. While peope like me say.. no.

bloody devils they are.
hehe

As an exercise in imagination it's a pretty good one. In reality though, I just don't see it..First of all the thought of the Knights Templar reverse engineering a spaceship is a bit out there; don't you think? And this when the concept of "Engineering" was still barely being remembered? By a group of people who couldn't even read or write for the most part, much less work with sophisticated mechanical concepts?
If you look into it you'll find thier power didn't come from technology or magic, it came from money; due to the fact that thier members gave all thier possessions to the order, plus donations from friendly nobles, and the fact that large sums were left with them for safekeeping..
It was said they found a hidden treasure below thier headquarters, but it was meant in a monetary sense..
All this effectively allowed them to become, in essence, Europes' largest bank. That's where the power and influence and astounding architecture came from..They could afford to buy it all.
They hardly needed Dragons or aliens to help them out..

Hmm.. I guess you misunderstood me. I didn't say they tried to reverse engineer one back then goober. But if they did find such tecnology and were told to keep it a secret, it would take hundreds of years for them to even begin to figure it out..

Their power also came from knowledge and many people wonder where that knowledge came from. I believe it came from the halls of Amenti, ie. the Underworld cities spoken of by the Egyptians.

Also, if it was a secret, which I firmly believe it all was since the order started out as an underground secret brotherhood, then there wouldn't be any traces of it in history, except for the abundance of knowledge that suddenly came out in the Rennaissance in Europe that lasted for hundreds of years.

The cathedrals are the real hard evidence. If you study architecture and actually visit them you may realize how amazing they really are. I have a BA in Architecture and my architecture history professor would state things like how amazing the invention of the flying buttress was back then and how hard it would be to reproduce this large spans even today with our technology.

If you ever get a chance to go to Europe, you must go to Notre Dame in Paris. It is so large it will humble you and make you wonder how the heck did they do that back then anyway?

Also the Duomo in Florence Italy is one of the most incredible structures I have ever been in. It is so large it will make you gasp.
Duomo Florence


See the people how small they are in the picture? Amazing!

AM

There's really no need for name calling. If you read what you wrote, you'll see it implies that the Templars reverse engineered a spacecraft..
However, after all is said and done, there's really very little hard evidence of Atlantis even existing; much less that they had spaceships. And while the cathedrals were amazing indeed I like to give the general population of humanity some credit..Not every amazing thing on the planet exists because of guidance from somewhere else. People have an almost infinite capacity to innovate, design and build all on thier own..

So people who have lispssss are serpents that haven't adapted fully to the human tounge yet. Suddenly it all makes sense...

very cool! I'm not sure if i belive all this but not sure if its a lie....
but just wait till my friend Cryptokid hears about this. I'll PM him

Didn't mean to offend. I call everyone goobers, even myself.

These are just my theories and meanderings because I do think if knowledge has been hidden from us by our government, then there's probably a very good explanation for it and it doesn't involve us being food for reptilian beasties from the Pleides.

I do also know that many of the forefathers that founded this country were Freemasons. Freemasonry is an offshoot of the Knights Templar Order.

I think its all very interesting and it could be true and you have post tons of facts! oh btw whats a goober?

No offense taken then, goober!
While I think there's certainly enough circumstantial evidence to Link the Knights of Temple of Solomon with the Freemasons and therefore with the government structure of early America, I guess I just don't find all that much likelihood in what you've postulated before that..
After all, just about everyone who was anyone in thier organization was wiped out in King Philips' purges. The Freemasons' were most likely influenced by a few remnants who were rank and file members. It seems very likely they wouldn't have known much at all about any important secrets thier organization held..
After all, when everybody is in the know someone inevitably talks, and we have no real record of that happening..

They are not Reptilian...! They are like us , Artistic...?

How about the greatest story ever maybe sorta kinda told?
Or the gretaest story with no fundamental facts?
You need to do more than give us a stellar example of a science intro, give us some meat to chew on, leads to track down, somethin.

" give us some meat to chew on, leads to track down, somethin. "

Hmm.. U never know maybe that's one reason why I'm here already...


hehe

rock on.

this is very interesting. i've always been fascinated by the reptilian race. they are often portrayed as evil beings but they are really wise and kind.people usually get the wrong idea just because most of them are big and/or deadly but they are really pretty nice. i mean the asians had the right mindset when it came to dragons because they portrayed them as protectors of heaven. by the way the lisp joke wasn't that funny and i resent that nazi joke because survival of the fittest is the basis of this entire world.

Now here I'd have to assume that you personally are in contact with reptilians to know that they are wise and kind; or even that they actually exist at all?
Would you care to elaborate?
I'm not trying to be rude here, so don't take it as such. I just always take exception when conjecture or imaginative thinking is treated as a hard fact..

I'll help with the dragon story. Dragons are extremely ancient not only to China but to one of the first known written civilizations, Summeria. If you do the research you will see that kings down through the ages even used the dragon symbol on their coat of arms. Did they do this because they were alien human, reptilian hybrids from Pleides? Or did they do this because they realized that dragons were angelic in origin?

The Merovignian line of kings that were offspring of Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ were also considered dragon kings of old. Now what does that mean? That Jesus had dragon children or that he had angelic children?

Just food for the fodor.

I wouldn't think they did that for any of those reasons. We've already gone over on this forum(endless times) how dinosaur bones fueled Dragon legends..
Anything that large was rightly thought to be mighty indeed..
Dragons were symbols of power and associated with Royalty and governments; therefore they were displayed on crests and standards..
Many crests have Griffons on them too, but I don't recall any German noble claiming Eagle/Lion lineage..It would be patently ridiculous..
My family crest has a bridge on it and yet I'm not made of stone..

And you base this on what, have you met them? talked to them? did they invite you to a little tea-party where they sorrowfully explained how misunderstood they are? Yet another little kiddie spouting nonsense based on reading too many books or internet sites...



Aye, need to develop a sense of humour first, it'll come to you with age don't worry...

And to the original poster of this thread, i've heard many more convincing theories for the human race than this one. It is completely ludicrous and even David Icke sounds reasonable in comparison. I mean honestly, that you even take it seriously speaks volumes...

Why does this discussion remind me of the plot for the Sc-Fi channel movie "Anonymous Rex"?

Some folks really need to get it together and try getting their information from a real historian and stop pulling wild notions from TV and comic books.

Can any of the people here provide any concrete evidence supporting the existence of >reptilians<, that does not come from a fictional source?

Can any of the people here provide any concrete evidence supporting the existence of >reptilians<, that does not come from a fictional source?
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Most of the evidence comes from government whistle-blowers and eyewitnesses. Unforturnately, there isn't a dead reptilian. People have been convicted of crimes with less evidence!

The material at this link is very compelling. I copied the whole text and put it in a notebook.
The Dulce Book
This website contains many links to government whistle-blowers and eyewitness accounts. I check this site at least once a week for updates.
Exopolitics

I will give my 2 cents about this topic... I DO NOT believe that human beings were created by or evolved from reptilians. That is what they want us to believe. If humans believe this crap, they will be easier to infiltrate/conquer/kill/takeover by these monsters. I don't pretend to know what the reptilians want with humans and our earth, but, I believe that they hate us. They could possibly be the demons and devils from the bible. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are fallen angels or from hell. I believe that this is what ancient man thought they were. People, today, know them for what they really are: a hostile, malevalent human-hating race of beings from under our earth and out there somewhere.

Like I tried to tell you guys the dragons are angels. Angels aren't reptiles but they once were...

"Some folks really need to get it together and try getting their information from a real historian and stop pulling wild notions from TV and comic books."

So you are saying I should believe EVERYTHING a historian has to say then? There's no way possible that history could be flawed then or manipulated to control the masses, right? It's all perfectly true. I guess you believe the Bible is 100% accurate also and Columbus discovered America?

The griffon is the same thing as the dragon and are depicted in ancient sumerian cylinder seals. The dragon is also the same thing as the cherubim who guards the doorway to the guarden of eden.

I figured someone would mention David Icke. hehe Ever hear of the Language of the Birds by William Henry? It's all in a name and his name speaks miles about his work. hehe

We aren't reptilian in origin, but we are angelic and it makes sense that the reptiles where in heaven before us since they have been on this planet for millions of years now.

THEY want you to fear because fear is control. Satan is a manmade invention if you do the research into Christianity you will see this. Before Christianity there was no such thing as Satan ask the pagans. The church invented it for control, plain and simple and they've done a very good job for thousands of years now haven't they? The Bible is full of contradictions for example why are both satan and Jesus referred to as the son of the morning star?

Sorry to bring religion into this, but that is the root of all fear, the fear of the boogeyman and the unknown.

As I said above these are my theories based on 10 years of reading and research. Debating is a good thing, making fun of someone else's ideas isn't kewl.

Watch the skies.

If the dragon is a mythical symbol why can it be seen all over the world in very ancient cultures who were not in communication with each other?

We should look more deeply into mythology since there are many similar myths of giants and dragons all over the world.

umm, dude, dragons except for that one in "Shrek" arnt very nice looking creatures. somehow I doubt that reptilians are angels seeing how they are friggin reptiles! and angel shouldnt be scary looking to very little kids.

My 3 year old son claims to see dragons every night.
I wonder if they are his imagination, or something else.....?

Many similar images crop up all over the world in unrelated cultures. These are called Archetypes. They prove that man has similar hopes, dreams and fears no matter where they're from..
However if you notice while a basic framework of an archetype might be similar; in every culture the appearance, particulars, and how they are perceived vary widely..
Were this coming from some ancient race one would expect we'd see striking similarities beyond, a large lizard-like being. Rarely does this happen however..

dragons were dinsoaurs. They were extinct before man arrived right? Wrong
Fossils remains account for less than .000000000000000000000000000000001% of actual creatures and are only found in areas where there was soft earth such as river banks where they would be sucked down and be much deeper than surrounding areas so blame primitive science not primitive people.

woah, maybe you should ask him what they look like,some abductee's/ encounteree's of Reptillians have drawn pictures, if your kids description matches up with an abductee/encounteree's then you have your answer.

Yeah, its not like a 3 year old could possibly have seen any dragon imagery anywhere else.....

shrek
land before time 1 throu 70000
pokemon
flintstones

I find it amazing how many people claim to know the unique and definitive history of the Earth along with the origin of man, seems like there's a lot of definitive histories...

And people wonder why we put what they are saying at arms length...

Ridiculous, no matter which way you look at it..

Apparently there have also been stories and myth of many underground cities that are guarded by dragons of old.

Thought I'd share this link:

Mysteries of the Inner Earth

If something like that is possible, no wonder down through the centuries why certain religions seem to always suggest that hell is beneath our feet. Interesting..

and, you can never get out because of the gravity is so dence.

Here's an ancient image of two dragons guarding a door with 2 snakes looped around each other. This is from ancient Sumer which was the first known civilization with writing and language.



I believe the snakes are a symbol for human DNA. I also believe this door leads to the garden of eden. My opinion based on research into dragons and ancient Sumer.