Full Version: Megalodon in captivity?
cant be a eel, cuz the teeth resembles sharks not eel
A lot of people believe that they come from different families because of their teeth. If you google it, you can find it practically anywhere.
Marduk - Who is to say that the Great White didn't evolve from something smaller? Hey, it could happen! Lol.
Marduk - Who is to say that the Great White didn't evolve from something smaller?
Hey, it could happen! Lol.
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ May 11 2005, 06:22 PM)
cant be a eel, cuz the teeth resembles sharks not eel
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people have variously described me as a neanderthal, a big ape, a sinner, an idiot,
but i'm still homo sapiens
Same here, but they describe me as a pig... Still, i don't have the curly tail (thank 'god')
i hear ppl can have tails though 
they can. and horns. and other strange anomolies.
the way i am given to understand it, Carcharodon megalodon is for those who beleive the great white is descended from Meg. Carcharocles (sp?) megalodon is for those who beleive its the ancestor of something called a "sand tiger" and only a cousin to great whites at best.
the way i am given to understand it, Carcharodon megalodon is for those who beleive the great white is descended from Meg. Carcharocles (sp?) megalodon is for those who beleive its the ancestor of something called a "sand tiger" and only a cousin to great whites at best.
QUOTE(marduk @ May 11 2005, 12:10 PM)
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ May 11 2005, 06:22 PM)
cant be a eel, cuz the teeth resembles sharks not eel
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people have variously described me as a neanderthal, a big ape, a sinner, an idiot,
but i'm still homo sapiens
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shush you neanderthal
Millions of years ago the oceans were ruled by a bus-sized, whale-eating shark with teeth as big as your hand.
Scientists have long believed that the prehistoric megalodon shark evolved into today's scariest sea predator, the great white. However, a new study comparing teeth suggests that the great white is more closely related to the smaller, but equally vicious mako shark.
"Most scientists would probably say the great whites evolved from the megalodon line, which existed from two to twenty million years ago," said Chuck Ciampaglio, a geologist and paleontologist at Wright State University. "However, our research, which is based on analyzing fossils of several hundred shark teeth, shows that the great white shares more similarities with the mako shark."
Reconstructing prehistoric sharks is difficult. A shark's skeleton is made of cartilage, which decomposes quicker than bone. Researchers have only recovered a few fossilized megalodon vertebrae.
"Teeth are the thing to go on," Ciampaglio told LiveScience.
Sharks replace their teeth regular, so they can be found on the seafloor. Fossils of megalodon teeth are collected on ancient seabeds now exposed. Ciampaglio digitized hundreds of teeth -- upper, lower, front, and back teeth from the three species, and analyzed their sizes and shapes.
The analysis showed great whites and makos have very similar tooth and root structure. "The great whites and makos lay right on top of each other," Ciampaglio said. They also have very similar growth trajectories - how a tooth changes in size and shape as the shark grows to its adult size.
The great white and megalodon, however, shared none of these characteristics. Serration is their only common trait, said Ciampaglio, but the other characteristics are more important.
This evidence "strongly supports the theory that the great white is descended from the prehistoric mako group," Ciampaglio said. The megalodon was probably the end of a run of giant sharks that died out 2-3 million years ago, he said.
Recently, a few fossil species was found off South America that look like an intermediate between the great white and mako, Ciampaglio said. This further strengthens his theory on great white evolution.
While great whites typically grow up to 20 or 25 feet in length, the megalodon was twice as long and had a gaping maw that a human could climb into, should someone so desire.
"They were huge sharks, approximately the length of a Greyhound bus and possessing teeth that were up to six inches long," said Ciampaglio.
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth." Thanks to those teeth, scientists have been able to estimate the size of the megalodon to have been at least 40 feet in length. Many researchers suspect they were 50 feet or larger, and some have speculated they were much bigger.
Scientists have long believed that the prehistoric megalodon shark evolved into today's scariest sea predator, the great white. However, a new study comparing teeth suggests that the great white is more closely related to the smaller, but equally vicious mako shark.
"Most scientists would probably say the great whites evolved from the megalodon line, which existed from two to twenty million years ago," said Chuck Ciampaglio, a geologist and paleontologist at Wright State University. "However, our research, which is based on analyzing fossils of several hundred shark teeth, shows that the great white shares more similarities with the mako shark."
Reconstructing prehistoric sharks is difficult. A shark's skeleton is made of cartilage, which decomposes quicker than bone. Researchers have only recovered a few fossilized megalodon vertebrae.
"Teeth are the thing to go on," Ciampaglio told LiveScience.
Sharks replace their teeth regular, so they can be found on the seafloor. Fossils of megalodon teeth are collected on ancient seabeds now exposed. Ciampaglio digitized hundreds of teeth -- upper, lower, front, and back teeth from the three species, and analyzed their sizes and shapes.
The analysis showed great whites and makos have very similar tooth and root structure. "The great whites and makos lay right on top of each other," Ciampaglio said. They also have very similar growth trajectories - how a tooth changes in size and shape as the shark grows to its adult size.
The great white and megalodon, however, shared none of these characteristics. Serration is their only common trait, said Ciampaglio, but the other characteristics are more important.
This evidence "strongly supports the theory that the great white is descended from the prehistoric mako group," Ciampaglio said. The megalodon was probably the end of a run of giant sharks that died out 2-3 million years ago, he said.
Recently, a few fossil species was found off South America that look like an intermediate between the great white and mako, Ciampaglio said. This further strengthens his theory on great white evolution.
While great whites typically grow up to 20 or 25 feet in length, the megalodon was twice as long and had a gaping maw that a human could climb into, should someone so desire.
"They were huge sharks, approximately the length of a Greyhound bus and possessing teeth that were up to six inches long," said Ciampaglio.
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth." Thanks to those teeth, scientists have been able to estimate the size of the megalodon to have been at least 40 feet in length. Many researchers suspect they were 50 feet or larger, and some have speculated they were much bigger.
evil anti-carcharodon propaganda...LIES, I SAY! IT'S ALL LIES!
^^;
A great white the size of a bus just seems to be a more frightening and attractive concept to me.
of course, we dont have a full meg skeleton to study, so there might be further similarities or differences we won't know about until we clone it.
and my moat is going to be the size of a small sea!
^^;
A great white the size of a bus just seems to be a more frightening and attractive concept to me.
of course, we dont have a full meg skeleton to study, so there might be further similarities or differences we won't know about until we clone it.
and my moat is going to be the size of a small sea!
QUOTE(Megalodon @ May 12 2005, 01:25 AM)
Millions of years ago the oceans were ruled by a bus-sized, whale-eating shark with teeth as big as your hand.
Scientists have long believed that the prehistoric megalodon shark evolved into today's scariest sea predator, the great white. However, a new study comparing teeth suggests that the great white is more closely related to the smaller, but equally vicious mako shark.
"Most scientists would probably say the great whites evolved from the megalodon line, which existed from two to twenty million years ago," said Chuck Ciampaglio, a geologist and paleontologist at Wright State University. "However, our research, which is based on analyzing fossils of several hundred shark teeth, shows that the great white shares more similarities with the mako shark."
Reconstructing prehistoric sharks is difficult. A shark's skeleton is made of cartilage, which decomposes quicker than bone. Researchers have only recovered a few fossilized megalodon vertebrae.
"Teeth are the thing to go on," Ciampaglio told LiveScience.
Sharks replace their teeth regular, so they can be found on the seafloor. Fossils of megalodon teeth are collected on ancient seabeds now exposed. Ciampaglio digitized hundreds of teeth -- upper, lower, front, and back teeth from the three species, and analyzed their sizes and shapes.
The analysis showed great whites and makos have very similar tooth and root structure. "The great whites and makos lay right on top of each other," Ciampaglio said. They also have very similar growth trajectories - how a tooth changes in size and shape as the shark grows to its adult size.
The great white and megalodon, however, shared none of these characteristics. Serration is their only common trait, said Ciampaglio, but the other characteristics are more important.
This evidence "strongly supports the theory that the great white is descended from the prehistoric mako group," Ciampaglio said. The megalodon was probably the end of a run of giant sharks that died out 2-3 million years ago, he said.
Recently, a few fossil species was found off South America that look like an intermediate between the great white and mako, Ciampaglio said. This further strengthens his theory on great white evolution.
While great whites typically grow up to 20 or 25 feet in length, the megalodon was twice as long and had a gaping maw that a human could climb into, should someone so desire.
"They were huge sharks, approximately the length of a Greyhound bus and possessing teeth that were up to six inches long," said Ciampaglio.
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth." Thanks to those teeth, scientists have been able to estimate the size of the megalodon to have been at least 40 feet in length. Many researchers suspect they were 50 feet or larger, and some have speculated they were much bigger.
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Scientists have long believed that the prehistoric megalodon shark evolved into today's scariest sea predator, the great white. However, a new study comparing teeth suggests that the great white is more closely related to the smaller, but equally vicious mako shark.
"Most scientists would probably say the great whites evolved from the megalodon line, which existed from two to twenty million years ago," said Chuck Ciampaglio, a geologist and paleontologist at Wright State University. "However, our research, which is based on analyzing fossils of several hundred shark teeth, shows that the great white shares more similarities with the mako shark."
Reconstructing prehistoric sharks is difficult. A shark's skeleton is made of cartilage, which decomposes quicker than bone. Researchers have only recovered a few fossilized megalodon vertebrae.
"Teeth are the thing to go on," Ciampaglio told LiveScience.
Sharks replace their teeth regular, so they can be found on the seafloor. Fossils of megalodon teeth are collected on ancient seabeds now exposed. Ciampaglio digitized hundreds of teeth -- upper, lower, front, and back teeth from the three species, and analyzed their sizes and shapes.
The analysis showed great whites and makos have very similar tooth and root structure. "The great whites and makos lay right on top of each other," Ciampaglio said. They also have very similar growth trajectories - how a tooth changes in size and shape as the shark grows to its adult size.
The great white and megalodon, however, shared none of these characteristics. Serration is their only common trait, said Ciampaglio, but the other characteristics are more important.
This evidence "strongly supports the theory that the great white is descended from the prehistoric mako group," Ciampaglio said. The megalodon was probably the end of a run of giant sharks that died out 2-3 million years ago, he said.
Recently, a few fossil species was found off South America that look like an intermediate between the great white and mako, Ciampaglio said. This further strengthens his theory on great white evolution.
While great whites typically grow up to 20 or 25 feet in length, the megalodon was twice as long and had a gaping maw that a human could climb into, should someone so desire.
"They were huge sharks, approximately the length of a Greyhound bus and possessing teeth that were up to six inches long," said Ciampaglio.
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth." Thanks to those teeth, scientists have been able to estimate the size of the megalodon to have been at least 40 feet in length. Many researchers suspect they were 50 feet or larger, and some have speculated they were much bigger.
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Nice cut and paste job megalodon
http://p102.news.scd.yahoo.com/s/space/are...dfrommegasharks
it may be a cut and paste but its got its good points
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
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What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
ya but recent studys are moving GW more away from Meg and closer to Makos
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
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What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
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if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
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What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
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if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
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Am ok man whatever you say. I suppose google is more accurate than an actual greek...
So, carcharias means pointed? Oh god, that's good.... "Odon" and not just "don", means "tooth" in greek....Carcharodon means "an animal with sharp teeth" not just "sharp teeth". Dental comes from the greek word odontas, in modern greek "donti"=tooth.
Jesus, I'm having greek lessons from a british? that's good....
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
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What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
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if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
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Am ok man whatever you say. I suppose google is more accurate than an actual greek...
So, carcharias means pointed? Oh god, that's good.... "Odon" and not just "don", means "tooth" in greek....Carcharodon means "an animal with sharp teeth" not just "sharp teeth". Dental comes from the greek word odontas, in modern greek "donti"=tooth.
Jesus, I'm having greek lessons from a british? that's good....
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Would also like to point out that since most names in every aspect of science (you can include any branch of science you like...) are of ancient greek origin, I suppose I'm a bit more accustomed in such words....being greek and all...if it will come to that, I'll happily write all of those in Greek for ya...
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
[right][snapback]618096[/snapback][/right]
What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
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if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
[right][snapback]618167[/snapback][/right]
Am ok man whatever you say. I suppose google is more accurate than an actual greek...
So, carcharias means pointed? Oh god, that's good.... "Odon" and not just "don", means "tooth" in greek....Carcharodon means "an animal with sharp teeth" not just "sharp teeth". Dental comes from the greek word odontas, in modern greek "donti"=tooth.
Jesus, I'm having greek lessons from a british? that's good....
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Would also like to point out that since most names in every aspect of science (you can include any branch of science you like...) are of ancient greek origin, I suppose I'm a bit more accustomed in such words....being greek and all...if it will come to that, I'll happily write all of those in Greek for ya...
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http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Desc...whiteshark.html
"The white shark was not always known as Carcharodon carcharias. Since 1758, when it was named Squalus carcharias, this species has been afforded a variety of scientific names, including Carcharias lamnia Rafinesque 1810, Carcharias verus Cloquet 1817, Carcharodon smithii Bonaparte 1838, Carcharodon rondeletii Müller & Henle 1839, Carcharias atwoodi Storer 1848, Carcharias maso Morris 1898, and Carcharodon albimors Whitley 1939. The genus name Carcharodon is derived from the Greek "karcharos" = sharpen and "odous" = teeth. The species name carcharias, also translated from Greek, means point or type of shark, leading to its common name in Australia of the white pointer"
so what you saying now then
that link is from the florida museum of natural history
its providence doesn't depend on google being correct
it just depends on you talking out your ass
all power to you though Vallheru, you might be the U.M.s resident expert on greek
but you're up against the U.M.s resident expert on sharks.
i've been studying them since i saw one up close aged 7
thats 28 years of study
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 07:34 AM)
The species name carcharias, also translated from Greek, means point or type of shark,
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Unless I'm reading that wrong, it looks like you're both right...
Am I reading it wrong here?
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 12:34 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
[right][snapback]618092[/snapback][/right]
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
[right][snapback]618092[/snapback][/right]
actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
[right][snapback]618096[/snapback][/right]
What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
[right][snapback]618106[/snapback][/right]
if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
[right][snapback]618167[/snapback][/right]
Am ok man whatever you say. I suppose google is more accurate than an actual greek...
So, carcharias means pointed? Oh god, that's good.... "Odon" and not just "don", means "tooth" in greek....Carcharodon means "an animal with sharp teeth" not just "sharp teeth". Dental comes from the greek word odontas, in modern greek "donti"=tooth.
Jesus, I'm having greek lessons from a british? that's good....
[right][snapback]618185[/snapback][/right]
Would also like to point out that since most names in every aspect of science (you can include any branch of science you like...) are of ancient greek origin, I suppose I'm a bit more accustomed in such words....being greek and all...if it will come to that, I'll happily write all of those in Greek for ya...
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http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Desc...whiteshark.html
"The white shark was not always known as Carcharodon carcharias. Since 1758, when it was named Squalus carcharias, this species has been afforded a variety of scientific names, including Carcharias lamnia Rafinesque 1810, Carcharias verus Cloquet 1817, Carcharodon smithii Bonaparte 1838, Carcharodon rondeletii Müller & Henle 1839, Carcharias atwoodi Storer 1848, Carcharias maso Morris 1898, and Carcharodon albimors Whitley 1939. The genus name Carcharodon is derived from the Greek "karcharos" = sharpen and "odous" = teeth. The species name carcharias, also translated from Greek, means point or type of shark, leading to its common name in Australia of the white pointer"
so what you saying now then
that link is from the florida museum of natural history
its providence doesn't depend on google being correct
it just depends on you talking out your ass
all power to you though Vallheru, you might be the U.M.s resident expert on greek
but you're up against the U.M.s resident expert on sharks.
i've been studying them since i saw one up close aged 7
thats 28 years of study
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I'm not any kind of resident expert in greek man, I am greek!!!
Anyhow, I have been researching them for about 15 years myslef so I seriously doubt your claim of being more expert than me!!!!
Oh and by the way, florida museum or not, what they write is complete b...t. get an Oxford English/Greek dictionary and you'll see what i say is correct....
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QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 12:34 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
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What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
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if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
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Am ok man whatever you say. I suppose google is more accurate than an actual greek...
So, carcharias means pointed? Oh god, that's good.... "Odon" and not just "don", means "tooth" in greek....Carcharodon means "an animal with sharp teeth" not just "sharp teeth". Dental comes from the greek word odontas, in modern greek "donti"=tooth.
Jesus, I'm having greek lessons from a british? that's good....
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Would also like to point out that since most names in every aspect of science (you can include any branch of science you like...) are of ancient greek origin, I suppose I'm a bit more accustomed in such words....being greek and all...if it will come to that, I'll happily write all of those in Greek for ya...
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http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Desc...whiteshark.html
"The white shark was not always known as Carcharodon carcharias. Since 1758, when it was named Squalus carcharias, this species has been afforded a variety of scientific names, including Carcharias lamnia Rafinesque 1810, Carcharias verus Cloquet 1817, Carcharodon smithii Bonaparte 1838, Carcharodon rondeletii Müller & Henle 1839, Carcharias atwoodi Storer 1848, Carcharias maso Morris 1898, and Carcharodon albimors Whitley 1939. The genus name Carcharodon is derived from the Greek "karcharos" = sharpen and "odous" = teeth. The species name carcharias, also translated from Greek, means point or type of shark, leading to its common name in Australia of the white pointer"
so what you saying now then
that link is from the florida museum of natural history
its providence doesn't depend on google being correct
it just depends on you talking out your ass
all power to you though Vallheru, you might be the U.M.s resident expert on greek
but you're up against the U.M.s resident expert on sharks.
i've been studying them since i saw one up close aged 7
thats 28 years of study
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I'm not any kind of resident expert in greek man, I am greek!!!
Anyhow, I have been researching them for about 15 years myslef so I seriously doubt your claim of being more expert than me!!!!
Oh and by the way, florida museum or not, what they write is complete b...t. get an Oxford English/Greek dictionary and you'll see what i say is correct....
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okay then
so you're saying that the florida museum of natural history is wrong and you know more about sharks than they do
whatever
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QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 07:34 AM)
The species name carcharias, also translated from Greek, means point or type of shark,
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Unless I'm reading that wrong, it looks like you're both right...
Am I reading it wrong here?
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I repeat my own question now because I've managed to confuse myself over it and I'd appreciate an answer.
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 12:45 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 12:34 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 12 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 12 2005, 11:45 AM)
In Greek, megalodon means "big tooth."
And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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And Carcharodon means shark (well actually Charcharias) which is the official name used for the big whites. Showing off my Greek!!! (well, not much of a show off, it's my native languange....)
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actually megalodon means "Giant tooth"
and carcharodon means "sharp tooth"
and carcharias means "pointed"
which is why in australia its known as the white pointer
shows what you know huh
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What????
Charcharodon is the word that indicates the whole shark family. In ancient greek, carcharodon did mean "animal with sharp teeth" but not today.
Carcharias is plainly, shark. It definately doesn't mean pointed....
Come onh man....Oh by the way, as you all know, megalodon's scientific name is Carcharodon megalodon, directly connecting it to the great white.
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if carcharodon just means shark then why is it that only this shark has it in its name huh
it means pointed
get google out and have a look at what science has to say on the matter
its more reliable than modern greek in this matter
carcharias means pointed
carcharodon means sharp teeth,
same as iguanadon means iguana teeth
don ?
you never heard the modern word dental ?
wanna guess where it came from
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Am ok man whatever you say. I suppose google is more accurate than an actual greek...
So, carcharias means pointed? Oh god, that's good.... "Odon" and not just "don", means "tooth" in greek....Carcharodon means "an animal with sharp teeth" not just "sharp teeth". Dental comes from the greek word odontas, in modern greek "donti"=tooth.
Jesus, I'm having greek lessons from a british? that's good....
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Would also like to point out that since most names in every aspect of science (you can include any branch of science you like...) are of ancient greek origin, I suppose I'm a bit more accustomed in such words....being greek and all...if it will come to that, I'll happily write all of those in Greek for ya...
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http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Desc...whiteshark.html
"The white shark was not always known as Carcharodon carcharias. Since 1758, when it was named Squalus carcharias, this species has been afforded a variety of scientific names, including Carcharias lamnia Rafinesque 1810, Carcharias verus Cloquet 1817, Carcharodon smithii Bonaparte 1838, Carcharodon rondeletii Müller & Henle 1839, Carcharias atwoodi Storer 1848, Carcharias maso Morris 1898, and Carcharodon albimors Whitley 1939. The genus name Carcharodon is derived from the Greek "karcharos" = sharpen and "odous" = teeth. The species name carcharias, also translated from Greek, means point or type of shark, leading to its common name in Australia of the white pointer"
so what you saying now then
that link is from the florida museum of natural history
its providence doesn't depend on google being correct
it just depends on you talking out your ass
all power to you though Vallheru, you might be the U.M.s resident expert on greek
but you're up against the U.M.s resident expert on sharks.
i've been studying them since i saw one up close aged 7
thats 28 years of study
[right][snapback]618221[/snapback][/right]
I'm not any kind of resident expert in greek man, I am greek!!!
Anyhow, I have been researching them for about 15 years myslef so I seriously doubt your claim of being more expert than me!!!!
Oh and by the way, florida museum or not, what they write is complete b...t. get an Oxford English/Greek dictionary and you'll see what i say is correct....
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okay then
so you're saying that the florida museum of natural history is wrong and you know more about sharks than they do
whatever
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This what you choose to read.
But yes, whatever.
Indeed Welcome
TOO MANY QUOTES!!!
ya i started getting confused cuz of all them quotes >.<
gosh guys chill out
ur both right
have a kit kat or sumthing
ur both right
have a kit kat or sumthing
ya take a break eat a kit kat
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ya take a break eat a kit kat
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i'll be right over
hold the ketchup
wow losts of quotes but anyway those pictures are fake like 1 or 2 is photoshoped a few is just a great whits the others are just like modles
QUOTE(Megalodon @ May 3 2005, 02:03 AM) 
Hi all, i recently just found this site and enjoying reading all the interesting stuff but best of all i liked the megalodon topics started. Now back on topic, i'v been researching megalodons for just few months now but have gotten a big interest in them and came across steve altens site( hes the author who wrote the MEG series) and saw this pat of the website. After seeing the pictures and reading his story, i found it really believable, so take a look for you're self and read the in formation aswell and tell me what you thinkThe real tanaka institute
This is the fakest picture I've ever seen, Im a marine biologist and i know everything about sharks and there ansesters. I have read 103 books on and about megalodons and other sharks and this is fake. Plz sir do not be so easily fooled i have made 2 pictures one before and that's fake.QUOTE(Megalodon @ May 3 2005, 02:03 AM)
Hi all, i recently just found this site and enjoying reading all the interesting stuff but best of all i liked the megalodon topics started. Now back on topic, i'v been researching megalodons for just few months now but have gotten a big interest in them and came across steve altens site( hes the author who wrote the MEG series) and saw this pat of the website. After seeing the pictures and reading his story, i found it really believable, so take a look for you're self and read the in formation aswell and tell me what you thinkThe real tanaka institute
This is the fakest picture I've ever seen, Im a marine biologist and i know everything about sharks and there ansesters. I have read 103 books on and about megalodons and other sharks and this is fake. Plz sir do not be so easily fooled i have made 2 pictures one before and that's fake.
hello!
have you seen that "megalodon" video on youtube?? pretty interesting.
there is a shark diveing cage in the shot, and if you use that to compare with what swims by, what ever it is, its nasty. i tryed to look for it, but now its gone.
have you seen that "megalodon" video on youtube?? pretty interesting.
there is a shark diveing cage in the shot, and if you use that to compare with what swims by, what ever it is, its nasty. i tryed to look for it, but now its gone.
yeah, that vid was posted a while back. someone said its just a shark, right in front of the camera. it makes it look bigger. which sucks
but i dont know if id believe this vid anyway, seeing as its like from a japanese/chinese game show thingy. i figured finding a possible megolodon would be on cnn, or every other channel.
but i dont know if id believe this vid anyway, seeing as its like from a japanese/chinese game show thingy. i figured finding a possible megolodon would be on cnn, or every other channel.
QUOTE(theredphantom @ Jun 28 2007, 09:06 AM)
This video has been posted at least a thousand times now and its weel established that it is a Pacific Sleeper Shark.
It's a Pacific Sleeper Shark, even the captain (taichou) of the ship that shot the video claimed it was one. In most version, the video was cut before they did they interview with the captain. I've seen the whole video on a cable TV, I speak Japanese, that's why I know. Trust me, I've also clarified this several months ago in this forum...
QUOTE(Megalodon @ May 3 2005, 09:03 AM)
Hi all, i recently just found this site and enjoying reading all the interesting stuff but best of all i liked the megalodon topics started. Now back on topic, i'v been researching megalodons for just few months now but have gotten a big interest in them and came across steve altens site( hes the author who wrote the MEG series) and saw this pat of the website. After seeing the pictures and reading his story, i found it really believable, so take a look for you're self and read the in formation aswell and tell me what you think
The real tanaka institute
The real tanaka institute
This has got to be the worst "staged" picture that i have ever seem!
So bad, I didn't know that Steve Alten was THAT desperate!
The photo is so fake, I could recreate then in five minutes on photoshop. All you have to do is enlarge a picture of a great white and super impose it onto the photo.
Omg I had posted earlier saying it was not real, ............but....but....but it is!!! I was shocked to find out about this, but it wasn't alive, but instead it was died. The Tanaka Institute had
found a meg( no i didn't look at Steve Altens site, i went thew records) died and not that long died!!!
found a meg( no i didn't look at Steve Altens site, i went thew records) died and not that long died!!!
Anyways steve altens book therory about the trench is as posible as grass being the best thing to eat ( no i dont mean this, its just an example). I agree with his thery, and many do, so dont give up hope and my last post is tecneckly right but it was also wrong, yes it was a meg but not a meglidone but the bigest great white a woping 29 and 1/2 inches.
I do believe that Megaladon still exists, but that is the fakest picture of a megaladon I've ever seen.
QUOTE(Clobhair-cean @ Jun 28 2007, 05:30 PM)
This video has been posted at least a thousand times now and its weel established that it is a Pacific Sleeper Shark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_sleeper_shark
Do any of you know that the Pacific Sleeper Shark also eat Colossal and Giant Squid?
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Jul 10 2007, 06:16 AM)
Do any of you know that the Pacific Sleeper Shark also eat Colossal and Giant Squid?
sure, big things must eat big stuffs, well.... maybe not for blue whale and their friends
Sorry the picture is photoshopped you can actually see it if you look at the picture the way the people are a different shade from the alleged "megalodon" but i still do believe there could be such a thing living since we haven't explored all of the oceans.... Oh yes and if you are looking to see megalodon footage this could be fake i am just adding it in since you seem to enjoy the megalodon this is for you www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKzrVv7I_o
enjoy!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKzrVv7I_oenjoy!
However, the Giant Pacific Sleeper Shark didn't hunt the giant squid, they eat their leftover.
Steven Alten really bothers me. He constantly goes on about surviving Megalodon and has come to spread this really dumb notion to the public that Megalodon's are still alive. He also seriously overdone the size of it.
I once exchanged some annoyed messages with him on IMDB, and he said he'd write me into one of his books where I'd get attacked by krill. :[ I still have to write the book about the basking shark swallowing him though...
Have I said his books are poorly written? Well, they are. Maybe the posting of rubbish on websites for popular consumption is just a marketing ploy. I guess the whole rumours about Megatooth sharks alive lends an aura of realism to his books, I guess that's his idea.
I once exchanged some annoyed messages with him on IMDB, and he said he'd write me into one of his books where I'd get attacked by krill. :[ I still have to write the book about the basking shark swallowing him though...
Have I said his books are poorly written? Well, they are. Maybe the posting of rubbish on websites for popular consumption is just a marketing ploy. I guess the whole rumours about Megatooth sharks alive lends an aura of realism to his books, I guess that's his idea.
QUOTE(Nena @ Jul 11 2007, 12:33 PM)
Steven Alten really bothers me. He constantly goes on about surviving Megalodon and has come to spread this really dumb notion to the public that Megalodon's are still alive. He also seriously overdone the size of it.
I once exchanged some annoyed messages with him on IMDB, and he said he'd write me into one of his books where I'd get attacked by krill. :[ I still have to write the book about the basking shark swallowing him though...
Have I said his books are poorly written? Well, they are. Maybe the posting of rubbish on websites for popular consumption is just a marketing ploy. I guess the whole rumours about Megatooth sharks alive lends an aura of realism to his books, I guess that's his idea.
I once exchanged some annoyed messages with him on IMDB, and he said he'd write me into one of his books where I'd get attacked by krill. :[ I still have to write the book about the basking shark swallowing him though...
Have I said his books are poorly written? Well, they are. Maybe the posting of rubbish on websites for popular consumption is just a marketing ploy. I guess the whole rumours about Megatooth sharks alive lends an aura of realism to his books, I guess that's his idea.
Could not agree more, I have had it with Steve Alten and his silly ideals to propogate sales for his poor literary efforts. If the books were any good he would not have to generate this sort of sensationalism to sell a copy or two.
In fact, I was so cheesed with him for this implied ideal some time back, if you did a search, you will see I had a thread about 2 years ago called Steve Alten is a jerk ROFL.
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