Hi all, i recently just found this site and enjoying reading all the interesting stuff but best of all i liked the megalodon topics started. Now back on topic, i'v been researching megalodons for just few months now but have gotten a big interest in them and came across steve altens site( hes the author who wrote the MEG series) and saw this pat of the website. After seeing the pictures and reading his story, i found it really believable, so take a look for you're self and read the in formation aswell and tell me what you think
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You found that really believable... sheesh...
Ok well if it truly was real do you not think that other Megalodon researchers would have posted it before, or that we would have heard about it by other means? It is fake as you can get... sorry...
Ok well if it truly was real do you not think that other Megalodon researchers would have posted it before, or that we would have heard about it by other means? It is fake as you can get... sorry...
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You found that really believable... sheesh...
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Tell me about it...those pictures are laughable
The story however, that Megalodon's may still exist, may be true IMO.
it's nearly impossible to keep a great white alive in captivity. keeping a whale sized carnivore in capivity is impossible.
Isn't that just some publicity thing to generate interest in his second meg book, The Trench ?
Anyways Welcome to UM Megalodon
Anyways Welcome to UM Megalodon
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Isn't that just some publicity thing to generate interest in his second meg book, The Trench ?
Anyways Welcome to UM Megalodon
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I'm pretty sure that you're right about that. Anyway, it was still somewhat interesting.
Welcome to UM Megladon
Welcome onboard Megalodon. Don't be put off with negative replies or people disagreeing with your post, this is what this is all about, open discussions and listeniung to other opinions.
Welcome to UM, I thought it was rather interesting,wish it was real I would go and see it
Thanks, it's good to be here.
But anyway i am not 100% sure of the idea, just a thought aobut if it is,
But anyway i am not 100% sure of the idea, just a thought aobut if it is,
Interesting subject, though discussed before I'm afraid.
In any case, from all this theory, from every discussion I followed (and I have followed some...) the most interesting story (by far) is the story about the crayfish or lobster fishermen who lost almost all their traps and saw this monstrous creature gulping them down. Anyone of you people living close to the sea know that fishermen are known for overblowing events. But personally I don't know a single fisherman that would stay in port short of losing an arm or a leg. Fishermen are not stock brokers, if you know what I mean. And by this report, they refused to go out and fish.
Other than that, I haven't heard or read a single piece of fact that would convince me of actual existence of the species.
The site is nice but a bit ad-minded the way I see it.
Very good being back discussin megs though-keep it up!!
In any case, from all this theory, from every discussion I followed (and I have followed some...) the most interesting story (by far) is the story about the crayfish or lobster fishermen who lost almost all their traps and saw this monstrous creature gulping them down. Anyone of you people living close to the sea know that fishermen are known for overblowing events. But personally I don't know a single fisherman that would stay in port short of losing an arm or a leg. Fishermen are not stock brokers, if you know what I mean. And by this report, they refused to go out and fish.
Other than that, I haven't heard or read a single piece of fact that would convince me of actual existence of the species.
The site is nice but a bit ad-minded the way I see it.
Very good being back discussin megs though-keep it up!!
The very concept of a shark that large is frightening... but the thought of one living in the waters of today is laughable... Definitly, if there were something that large in the ocean, being as vast as it is, it would have been "seen" before.
As for the captivity theory, there is no way it would survive...
As for the captivity theory, there is no way it would survive...
Welcome to the forum Megaloden,
The pics were fake, but I agree man hasn't looked at every inch of the ocean so we really don't know what could be down there.
The pics were fake, but I agree man hasn't looked at every inch of the ocean so we really don't know what could be down there.
I believe it could still be out there somewhere. Maybe it dosent grow to the size it once did? There is just so much out there undiscovered that i cannot completely rule out the survival of such a creature.
Even with its enormous size it could still hide. Very easily i might add.
Even with its enormous size it could still hide. Very easily i might add.
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I believe it could still be out there somewhere. Maybe it dosent grow to the size it once did? There is just so much out there undiscovered that i cannot completely rule out the survival of such a creature.
Even with its enormous size it could still hide. Very easily i might add.
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Even with its enormous size it could still hide. Very easily i might add.
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maybe it just down sized and is now the great white shark
and that picture is funny
no cuz supositly the great white and megalodon lived at the same time, and that pic just looks fake, if there is any megalodons left alive no way in hell are they in captivity, otherwise everyone in the world would know and plus if it is still alive it must be deep under the Ocean.
well from the part i read he didnt deny nor conform that there was a meg in captivity. Ill give him that much.
Question: Why does the shark live in deep waters? Not too many creatures can withstand the extream pressure/ cold/hot habitats.
doesnt sound like there could be too much food down there?
Question: Why does the shark live in deep waters? Not too many creatures can withstand the extream pressure/ cold/hot habitats.
doesnt sound like there could be too much food down there?
but food will cum from above; hence quite a few deep sea creatures feed on carrion.
maybe meg feeds off giant squid and jelly fish down below? 
suppose a squid and a meg tango and the med looses. nothing would come up to the top o at least high enough to be caught in a fishing net?
The pictures look suspicious to me. But i wont say that there is no possible way it isnt alive.
I don't think so, and that picture looks hillariously fake. x-x So says some of my classmates and myself.
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suppose a squid and a meg tango and the med looses. nothing would come up to the top o at least high enough to be caught in a fishing net?
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maybe they would but other creatures down there eat up the body, or just the bodies weigh to much, like meg weighs over 30 tons supositly so ya i think it would sink
it's a book. i read two in the series and about to start on the third. quite good, but as false as Area 51 (notice how no one can be any more sure that the government doesnt have an Area 51 than they have a meg).
the site was fun to look at though. read the books, they're cool!
the site was fun to look at though. read the books, they're cool!
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QUOTE(Gabriel @ May 3 2005, 11:33 AM)
suppose a squid and a meg tango and the med looses. nothing would come up to the top o at least high enough to be caught in a fishing net?
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maybe they would but other creatures down there eat up the body, or just the bodies weigh to much, like meg weighs over 30 tons supositly so ya i think it would sink
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sharks sink when they die. i think they mention it in either Meg or The Trench, perhaps something i ran across looking up shark images online.
that's how i found those books. one website linked me to the tanaka insitute webbie and i went, "MUST READ MUST READ MUST READ MUST READ!!"
QUOTE(Deimos @ May 3 2005, 02:42 AM)
it's nearly impossible to keep a great white alive in captivity. keeping a whale sized carnivore in capivity is impossible.
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i heard not long ago great whites suicide. they sense metal and electrical energy and so forth, so they bash their brains out trying to get it.
in The Trench, Angel bulldozed the gate because she was in heat. keeping a great white the size of a whale is not a smart idea, either way.
QUOTE(Vallheru @ May 3 2005, 07:13 AM)
Interesting subject, though discussed before I'm afraid.
In any case, from all this theory, from every discussion I followed (and I have followed some...) the most interesting story (by far) is the story about the crayfish or lobster fishermen who lost almost all their traps and saw this monstrous creature gulping them down. Anyone of you people living close to the sea know that fishermen are known for overblowing events. But personally I don't know a single fisherman that would stay in port short of losing an arm or a leg. Fishermen are not stock brokers, if you know what I mean. And by this report, they refused to go out and fish.
Other than that, I haven't heard or read a single piece of fact that would convince me of actual existence of the species.
The site is nice but a bit ad-minded the way I see it.
Very good being back discussin megs though-keep it up!!
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In any case, from all this theory, from every discussion I followed (and I have followed some...) the most interesting story (by far) is the story about the crayfish or lobster fishermen who lost almost all their traps and saw this monstrous creature gulping them down. Anyone of you people living close to the sea know that fishermen are known for overblowing events. But personally I don't know a single fisherman that would stay in port short of losing an arm or a leg. Fishermen are not stock brokers, if you know what I mean. And by this report, they refused to go out and fish.
Other than that, I haven't heard or read a single piece of fact that would convince me of actual existence of the species.
The site is nice but a bit ad-minded the way I see it.
Very good being back discussin megs though-keep it up!!
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doing research on meg (the shark, not the book), i read reports of fishermen seeing huge sharks that were...purple with neon green spots or some such coloration (something wierd, i remember that), and it was a BIG fishy.
i remember thinking, "Well, we dont know what its skin looked like any more than a dinosaur..."
I will admit that when i saw that site, i hadnt heard of the books, so i thought it was a rumor flying around. not that it was real, but it was speculation over another government conspiracy.
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QUOTE(Undefined_innocence @ May 3 2005, 12:30 PM)
I believe it could still be out there somewhere. Maybe it dosent grow to the size it once did? There is just so much out there undiscovered that i cannot completely rule out the survival of such a creature.
Even with its enormous size it could still hide. Very easily i might add.
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Even with its enormous size it could still hide. Very easily i might add.
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maybe it just down sized and is now the great white shark
and that picture is funny
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there is some dispute over that. Charcarodon megalodon is the scientific name if you beleive it's the anscestor to the great white, charcarocles if you think it's just a cousin, i think.
purple shark with neon green pokedots? hhahahahaha that sounds bogus lol, hasnt there been more claims of a giant ghostly white shark than a purple with neon green dots?
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purple shark with neon green pokedots? hhahahahaha that sounds bogus lol, hasnt there been more claims of a giant ghostly white shark than a purple with neon green dots?
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i dont remember where it was or what i read, just that it was weird. i might have been visualizing purple for some reason, but i seem to recall spots and thinking, "That's just weird."
and it would alot of dumb luck for Meg to be surviving in a thermal layer at the bottom of the ocean like in Steve Alten's books. granted, we dont go there often, but it would be like the cloning things and dinosaur behavior turning out in real life just as it did in Jurrasic Park, which was every bit as good as the movie. better in some places, worse in others. ^.^ (Meg and Angel were "albino" with light-sensitive eyes because there isnt any light down there)
i do'nt think there is a meg in captivity.where on earth could one be held?it is possible for one to still be alive though,and living in really deep waters.who knows?
there maybe caves that support all kinds of life down that deep,and even places for them to obtain air and warmth!
there maybe caves that support all kinds of life down that deep,and even places for them to obtain air and warmth!
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there maybe caves that support all kinds of life down that deep,and even places for them to obtain air and warmth!
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good point
go read the books, guys. it explains all of that.
good books, too. *
snoogles Megalodon...after tying a muzzle around it, of course *
good books, too. *
snoogles Megalodon...after tying a muzzle around it, of course *
six hundred and sixty-six views...
weird.
weird.
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ May 3 2005, 03:29 PM)
purple shark with neon green pokedots? hhahahahaha that sounds bogus lol, hasnt there been more claims of a giant ghostly white shark than a purple with neon green dots?
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Ahhhh... but what do you think when someone first found the whale shark? ITs hugantic!!!.. and its not agressive. And look at its beautiful colors.
Like a cheeta almost
And the tiger shark
Beautiful stripes.
And what about the hammerhead?
If noone knew about that.. and someone came back saying" OMH i seen a shark that looked like it had a bench for a head!"
everyone would have thought him nus.
So.. why not a purple shark with green spots?
coral musta been really wild back then, or else it would stick out like twelve sore thumbs.
yeah i'v read all three of the books and enjoyed them and look forward to see the movie and he says he's going to write a forth book oh and the bit about the sightings with the huge, yellow and green shark with spots, heres the link to those stories and a few other stories. It's quite good, sorry if this link has been given before but anyway take a look at it. I think the crayfish fishermen story is a good one to back up the theory about the existence of the carcharodon megalodon but the one about the purple and green shark with spots sounds to me a lot like a whale shark but the sonar records give a bit more life to the theory as there are not many explanations of what those objects could be. Heres the link
New evidence
New evidence
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QUOTE(Conspiracy @ May 3 2005, 03:29 PM)
purple shark with neon green pokedots? hhahahahaha that sounds bogus lol, hasnt there been more claims of a giant ghostly white shark than a purple with neon green dots?
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Ahhhh... but what do you think when someone first found the whale shark? ITs hugantic!!!.. and its not agressive. And look at its beautiful colors.
Like a cheeta almost
And the tiger shark
Beautiful stripes.
And what about the hammerhead?
If noone knew about that.. and someone came back saying" OMH i seen a shark that looked like it had a bench for a head!"
everyone would have thought him nus.
So.. why not a purple shark with green spots?
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still i dont see a purple shark with neon green dots
QUOTE(Megalodon @ May 4 2005, 06:03 AM)
yeah i'v read all three of the books and enjoyed them and look forward to see the movie and he says he's going to write a forth book oh and the bit about the sightings with the huge, yellow and green shark with spots, heres the link to those stories and a few other stories. It's quite good, sorry if this link has been given before but anyway take a look at it. I think the crayfish fishermen story is a good one to back up the theory about the existence of the carcharodon megalodon but the one about the purple and green shark with spots sounds to me a lot like a whale shark but the sonar records give a bit more life to the theory as there are not many explanations of what those objects could be. Heres the link
New evidence
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Was about to make the remark about whale sharks, when I read Meg's piece.
Whale sharks are so big and slow-moving that you can easily locate them (and their nice looking spots). If you know their migrating patterns of course.
But, a spotted predator in the ocean is not a very good idea if you know what I mean. Anything with spots you can pin-point immediately.
And since we got to shark colouring, I'd like to mention that I don't find any reason why a meg should be white. Great whites are not white (they have a white belly). Can't see why nature would make a fluorescent predator, one that every prey can see from miles away. So that is definately a mistaken assumption.
On the whole issue, again, I have not seen a solid proof, so unfortunately (I'd love them to exist, I admit...) for the time being I have to be a "sceptic".
in the book, the megs were florescent beacuse they lived where there was no light, so they made their own.
the spots might be there to mimic the dapple-pattern you get when light shines through water....but that would be a shallow-water critter, wouldnt it?
the spots might be there to mimic the dapple-pattern you get when light shines through water....but that would be a shallow-water critter, wouldnt it?
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Zane Grey, a famous author at that time and his son Loren was deep-sea fishing off Rangiroa Island. Glancing over the boat´s railing, Zane Grey spotted an enormous "yellow and green shark with a square head, immense pectoral fins and a few white
spots". According to Zane the shark was "considerably longer than my boat, conservatively between 35 and 40 feet". Some New Zealand fishermen aboard who also saw the great shark agreed with Grey’s estimate.
spots". According to Zane the shark was "considerably longer than my boat, conservatively between 35 and 40 feet". Some New Zealand fishermen aboard who also saw the great shark agreed with Grey’s estimate.
from the "new evidence" page
could be a bottom feeder Like Plecostomus <-cant spell lol the thing looks like a shark has spots and can can be certain colors as to what are eating. ???? I DONT KNOW !! *L*
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Zane Grey, a famous author at that time and his son Loren was deep-sea fishing off Rangiroa Island. Glancing over the boat´s railing, Zane Grey spotted an enormous "yellow and green shark with a square head, immense pectoral fins and a few white
spots". According to Zane the shark was "considerably longer than my boat, conservatively between 35 and 40 feet". Some New Zealand fishermen aboard who also saw the great shark agreed with Grey’s estimate.
spots". According to Zane the shark was "considerably longer than my boat, conservatively between 35 and 40 feet". Some New Zealand fishermen aboard who also saw the great shark agreed with Grey’s estimate.
from the "new evidence" page
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Again, that fits more or less the description of a whale shark, no?
I like some of the points he made in the beginning, but I seriously doubt that a megaladon is alive in captivity. I believe that they may be out there in the ocean somewhere, but not in captivity. Besides, the pictures look pretty fake...but it was interesting!
ya those pics do look fake
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ya those pics do look fake
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THEY ARE FAKE!!
It's a promotional webbie for his book, The Trench. That's how i learned about those three, Meg, The Trench, and Meg: Primal Waters in the first place. i stumbled across there, for a second or two thought it was a spoof of some conspiracy theory or another, then realized it was an advertisement for a book, went out and bought the book.
the books are good. go read them!
The theory of megaladon still existing could very well be true, but I agree that those pictures were pretty ridiculous haha. These sharks were probably the greatest predators that ever lived on this planet. Aside from such animals as Zeugladon (sp?) NOTHING would compare to the Megaladon.
QUOTE(TheGuardian @ May 4 2005, 03:08 PM)
The theory of megaladon still existing could very well be true, but I agree that those pictures were pretty ridiculous haha. These sharks were probably the greatest predators that ever lived on this planet. Aside from such animals as Zeugladon (sp?) NOTHING would compare to the Megaladon.
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what's a Zeugladon?
It's a promotional thingy! made to be entertaining, not beleiveable!
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It's a promotional thingy! made to be entertaining, not beleiveable!
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Just because it is a promotional thing for his story doesn't mean that it can't have some truth in it...
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An 80-foot-long prehistoric shark terrorizes the California coast. Two men team up to take on the hungry beast.
Genre(s)
Horror, Action, Adventure
Director(s)
Jan de Bont
Writer(s)
Shane Salerno
Release Date
TBA 2006/2007
Release
Wide Release
Technical Details
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New Line paid mid-six against seven figures for a new script. The film, to be budgeted at $75 million, was first set up at Disney, which acquired the rights in 1997 for approximately $1 million. (Done Deal)
Genre(s)
Horror, Action, Adventure
Director(s)
Jan de Bont
Writer(s)
Shane Salerno
Release Date
TBA 2006/2007
Release
Wide Release
Technical Details
Book List Price: $7.99 Our Price: $7.99
Shop the top-selling DVDs in the Marketplace
04/11/05
New Line paid mid-six against seven figures for a new script. The film, to be budgeted at $75 million, was first set up at Disney, which acquired the rights in 1997 for approximately $1 million. (Done Deal)
http://movies.go.com/moviesdynamic/movies/...20Line%20Cinema
SQUUUEEEEEE!!!!
That is true...but all i'm saying is the pictures look fake because they are.
i went looking for info on the backstory, about the giant great white that washed up still alive and pregnant, but i couldnt find it. doesnt mean it isnt a rumor, which, agian, is what i thought the site was. then i realized it was a promo.
i wonder why one of the big hollywood studios have'nt stepped up and made a movie about a megladon on the loose?jesus,that thing would make more money than titanic did!!!it is a fact that we have sent more people into space,than we have to study life on the sea floor???
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