Simbonian
May 6 2005, 11:33 PM
This is my first time posting a topic. I'm not sure where it belongs, but it really interested me. I would like to know what everyone thinks.
They may be all around us... in the sky, in the water, even in our homes. They have been captured only on film and videotape. No one knows what they are, where they come from, whether or not they are alive, and they have never been touched or seen at rest.
They are called "rods," "skyfish" and sometimes "solar entities." Although the video evidence is compelling that they are quite real and probably living creatures, they are completely unknown to science - a fascinating and baffling mystery.
Skyfish were first documented by filmmaker José Escamilla, who discovered them by accident. In 1994, Escamilla had videotaped a "conventional" UFO near Midway, New Mexico. Fourteen days later, while seeking to photograph the UFO again, he instead captured a flying object that was not a vehicle of any kind. At first he thought it was just an insect or bird. When he examined the film frame by frame, however, it became clear that what he had captured on film was something unknown. Later, more distinct images were captured while Escamilla was filming cliff jumpers at a deep cave in Mexico. When he developed the film, small flying things could be seen zipping around the divers at a high rate of speed - so fast that they weren't seen with the naked eye.
The enhanced frames of film revealed that the flying thing appeared to be rod-shaped with two undulating wings or appendages along the length of the body and which gave it the appearance of swimming through the air. Escamilla dubbed them "rods" and has since filmed and videotaped them dozens of times. And after introducing them to the public through his website, roswellrods.com, he has received further reports and video and photographic evidence from other parts of the US and around the world. The strange flying enigmas have also turned up in documentary footage, TV news shots and even feature films.
Are They Alive?
Without a specimen in hand to examine, it's impossible to determine whether or not skyfish are living organisms, but it's Escamilla's best guess that they are. The video evidence certainly makes them seem so. They move through the air like insects or birds, sometimes darting around objects with a kind of animal intelligence - but at a speed far greater than any known insect or bird. How fast? Analysis of film and video of skyfish from around the world indicate that they can be moving as fast as 150 to 1,000 miles per hour - faster than the speed of sound.
How big are they? The same analysis indicates that they might range in size from just a few inches to perhaps over a hundred feet in length! How could something that large be unknown? That's part of the skyfish mystery, yet there they are on video.
Although most skyfish have been seen in the air outdoors, they have also been photographed and videotaped indoors and even underwater. A photograph displayed on Kitty's Kitchen website appears to show a skyfish in mid-flight ready to pass through a doorway in her home. And a TV news report on Escamilla from KCOP Channel 13 includes clear footage of a skyfish swimming in a stream, indicating that they are equally at home in the water
AncientMyste
May 6 2005, 11:38 PM
This is one of my favorite topics! There is soooo much that human beings have no idea about. When rods were first recorded, there was no one to debunk them, but, now, so-called experts are saying that they are bugs and dust. They don't look like anything I've ever seen before.
ForRizzle
May 6 2005, 11:41 PM
Simbonian
May 6 2005, 11:44 PM
They are so interesting! Who would of thought? Great pics by the way! They definitly do not look like dust. I read somewhere that someone hit one with his car and it was a liquid/gel like substance. I'll try and find it.
MJB222
May 6 2005, 11:44 PM
Never heard them be called a skyfish before, I am more interested in skyfish now, because ALL FISH ARE COOL.
Simbonian
May 6 2005, 11:55 PM
Here's one website I found. Still can't find the forum where the guy hit it with his car.
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 12:08 AM
The guy who hit one with his car
Trevor James Constable studied these animals way back in the 1950s, photographing them with infrared 35mm film, and Dr. Wilhelm Reich also studied creatures similar to rods that he named bions, Trevor is currently working on rain engineering, a method pioneered by Dr. Reich and founded on his theories of Orgone energy. I have been told that Mr. Constable has given most of his research of rods over to José, although his three books on the subject are freely available. Rods are most fascinating creatures, living under our very noses for all these years and virtually unknown. As to what type of animal they are, I am leaning toward a type of worm considering the model José worked out with the undulating wings/fins. I have been contacted by a person who hit one of these creatures with his car in Penn. He told me the remains consisted of a oily yellowish thick liquid that took several washes to completely remove from his windshield. He told me there were no body parts, no hard structure, only liquid. When you hit a bug, it leaves the hard exoskeleton as well as body juices on your car. The Rainbow rods filmed here in Maine appear to have no visible legs, and seem to have but one main body part, the rod section, two long wings/fins and in some photos noticeable protuberances resembling antenna or I believe possibly a type of ear enabling the rods to navigate with sound somewhat as bats do. Insects have six legs, and three body parts. I know the thought of a flying worm seems ridiculous, but for now it seems the most reasonable choice, even though I am unaware of any other flying worms; snakes, bats, squirrels and lizards yes, (technically the squirrels, snakes and lizards are gliders, but who here is splitting hairs?). But I have never heard of flying worms. There are numerous worms (Polychaete/Tomopterid) living in the oceans, with translucent flesh to the point of being nearly invisible. They use the same basic locomotion as rods (undulating) or flying in the water. Recently I filmed a creature we named the Trident for the shape of its body, similar to the rods yet morphologically very different with a completely different body form. Just today I captured two rods chasing each other. So far I have been unable to film any that are "hundreds of feet long." All of the rods I have in my collection of data are between 3 inches and 2-1/2 to 3 feet in length. Being that these creatures are for all general purposes invisible - only visible under certain conditions - it is difficult to estimate their size without a frame of reference such as a tree or building in front of the creatures. I will eat crow if sometime in the future I can measure one a hundred feet long, but for now I would put their top size at no more then 3 to 4 feet in length, based on the measurements I have made. Having filmed them on every sunny day since early April of this year, keeping detailed notes as to their behavior, it seems to me they have a cycle of behavior which they follow, at least in this area. In early April, only larger rods were captured in the camera traps, rods between 2 to 3 feet in length. The activity level at the beginning of May indicated perhaps a breeding swarm, followed in mid-June by swarms of "neonates/babies" that seem to be looked after by pairs of adults. We have captured the same individual creature, "Sharky," so named due to his ragged wings/fins over a period of several weeks. This could be an indication of these creatures maintaining home territories or protecting breeding areas. I make these claims hesitantly as much more research is needed before these claims can be validated. I have several papers written about these creatures concerning growth, territory, breeding patterns etc. But until someone catches one of these buggers the skeptics will only debunk this whole area of study.
Undefined_innocence
May 7 2005, 12:55 AM
The pictures look like bugs. They have taken pictures several times, far back and upclose of bugs.. and it looks just like those 'rods'.
So.. i come to believe its just that.. bugs.
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 12:58 AM
I thought they were bugs at first too. Until I found out that they travel between 300-1000 m/hour.
I don't know any bug that flies that fast!
secret_explorer2
May 7 2005, 02:29 AM

Whoa,I have not heard of these before.They do look like rods with wings and the pics are fascinating.If you take a look at the pic with the mulitple rods near a bright light,they sorta look like feathers.Has anybody a clue how they were created?
greychupa
May 7 2005, 08:27 AM
I dont think these are insects. I believe that they are an unknown species of some kind. Many, many people say they are just insects, but if you read about it more and become more educated about it you know they cant be insects in any way.
rayce
May 7 2005, 10:32 AM
QUOTE(Simbonian @ May 7 2005, 12:58 AM)
I thought they were bugs at first too. Until I found out that they travel between 300-1000 m/hour.
I don't know any bug that flies that fast!

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The only evidence I have seen towards these have been videos. I have seen just as solid evidence showing the same thing in videos with bugs.
You say they travel at 300-1000 mph! Who held that radar??? Can you prove this info?
I was honestly interested in and convinced in rods until I watched many pieces of video of bugs that showed the exact same thing. Until someone can prove they are real, they are just a theory.
Just like any paranormal subject.. evidence speaks louder than words but there is always more words than evidence.
Though I will admit that this image..

posted by ForRizzle definately does not match a bug. Especially at that close of a range!
Essan
May 7 2005, 10:58 AM
An unknow species. Totally invisible to the naked eye, no physical evidence whatsoever, but readily captured on slow film.....
Richdog
May 7 2005, 11:06 AM
QUOTE(greychupa @ May 7 2005, 09:27 AM)
I dont think these are insects. I believe that they are an unknown species of some kind. Many, many people say they are just insects, but if you read about it more and become more educated about it you know they cant be insects in any way.
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Rubbish. Scientists have already replicated the rods umpteen gazillion times using normal insects.
rayce
May 7 2005, 11:11 AM
QUOTE(Richdog @ May 7 2005, 11:06 AM)
Rubbish. Scientists have already replicated the rods umpteen gazillion times using normal insects.
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Exactly. I once believed in them myself until I saw lots of footage of "rods" duplicated on slow speed film using simple insects!
Xoisk el Soñador
May 7 2005, 12:07 PM
whatever they are, they look weird...it's hard to tell if its a rod or insects!
Dog_Boy
May 7 2005, 02:01 PM
Got to say the same as a few others have said already, I once thought these were a new species of animal.
Like everything I’m interested in I wanted to know more and if they weren’t something new and exciting what exactly are they.
So I dug around and took in all the “relevant” evidence and am now convinced they are birds and / or insects that are recorded this way on video of certain frame speeds.
I must admit I was very disappointed when I saw the evidence against them being “Rods” but when the facts are presented you cannot ignore them.
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 04:46 PM
For some reason, I just can't believe that they are insects. Someone should try and film them and let us know what happens
Finally we provide you with a few tips from Jose' Escamilla on how to capture rods on video film.
1) Adjust your video camera's shutter setting. Depending on your camera, it might be a dial with little pictures on it. Look for the sports setting. That will ensure you have a high shutter setting so each frame of video will look like a single picture without blur.
2) Point your camera at the sky. Leave something, like a tree as a frame of reference.
3) Adjust your zoom so it matches what you see with the naked eye. Don't use a wide angle, or zoom in for a closeup.
4) Let the camera record for 10 minutes. Then, change angles and record for another 10 minutes.
5) Time to look at your video. Play the video at regular speed. If you see something go by, replay it at slow speed.
6) Did you find anything on your tape? If so, we want to see it! email us at
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 04:51 PM
QUOTE(rayce @ May 7 2005, 07:32 AM)
QUOTE(Simbonian @ May 7 2005, 12:58 AM)
I thought they were bugs at first too. Until I found out that they travel between 300-1000 m/hour.
I don't know any bug that flies that fast!

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The only evidence I have seen towards these have been videos. I have seen just as solid evidence showing the same thing in videos with bugs.
You say they travel at 300-1000 mph! Who held that radar??? Can you prove this info?
I was honestly interested in and convinced in rods until I watched many pieces of video of bugs that showed the exact same thing. Until someone can prove they are real, they are just a theory.
Just like any paranormal subject.. evidence speaks louder than words but there is always more words than evidence.
Though I will admit that this image..

posted by ForRizzle definately does not match a bug. Especially at that close of a range!
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I don't personally have any evidence since I just found out about these things but here's where I read it
7. How fast do you calculate they are moving?
J.E.: One rod in Norway ascended upward toward where a cameraman was videotaping base jumpers down below. He is literally standing at the edge of a cliff 3,000 feet above the ocean. Down below you can see the beach and coastline, some clouds, and a base jumper who has leaped off the cliffs. This rod emerges from the left side of the screen, and it appears small. As it moves closer to where the cameraman is, it gets larger before going off upper right screen. The rod travels about 3,000 feet in 10 frames of video. At 30 frames per each second of video, this means it travels that distance in one-third of a second. That is very fast. So they may travel from 150 to perhaps 1,000 miles per hour.
aquatus1
May 7 2005, 05:10 PM
Unfortunately, I am away from my home computer, so I cannot get the link to the website I normally post in threads concerning rods. It has many pictures of rods turning into insects upon landing, and an explanation of why they look as they do when photographed. Regardless, a search on the internet using the words "Rods" and "Debunked" should provide many such examples. Alternatively, you can do a search on this thread for the many other threads about rods and you will undoubtedly find the link there.
Dog_Boy
May 7 2005, 06:03 PM
QUOTE
For some reason, I just can't believe that they are insects. Someone should try and film them and let us know what happens
Thats exactly what happened.
We were given video edvidence that showed these Rod like things flying around.
Then we were shown by some other people how a when a bird or an insect flies past a video camera when it is set to a certain slower shutter speed they "streak" on the video and show up as Rods.
Just because they dont look like it to you doesn't mean that they must be a new form of life.
The only evidence we have is these images which have been disproven. We have no captured rod (even though they are everwhere apparently), we have no body of a dead one and we have no physical evidence of them.
Sorry but they may look strange and we all like to believe in things like this but the facts are there. They are birds or insects.
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 06:08 PM
Maybe so. I will look more into it. Thank you to all for the info.
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 09:53 PM
The only evidence we have is these images which have been disproven. We have no captured rod (even though they are everwhere apparently), we have no body of a dead one and we have no physical evidence of them.
Have they ever found a dead Big Foot or a really found a dead alien? No physical evidence to prove those either, yet it's still belived in. I'm not arguing, just asking for people to keep their minds open about things that we don't understand.
Dog_Boy
May 7 2005, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(Simbonian @ May 7 2005, 10:53 PM)
Have they ever found a dead Big Foot or a really found a dead alien? No physical evidence to prove those either, yet it's still belived in. I'm not arguing, just asking for people to keep their minds open about things that we don't understand.
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I consider myself to have a very open mind but I do not accept things just because someone says it is a fact.
The thing about Rods is that they
have been disproved. Unfortunately like many other hoaxes, misinterpretations etc. the explanations are ignored or pushed to one side.
You mention Big Foot and Aliens. Some of these have also been found to be hoaxes or misinterpretation. But others are very convincing. Unfortunately all of the Rod evidence
is based solely on the video evidence and that has been reproduced on many occasions with birds and insects.
Its one thing being open minded about things, its another saying things are still one thing when the evidence suggests otherwise.
Dog_Boy
May 7 2005, 10:10 PM
I've had a quick look on Google and one of the 1st sites I come across is this.
Look for yourselves:
http://miqel.com/roswellrods.html
Simbonian
May 7 2005, 10:14 PM
Thanks Dog Boy
Those Mysterious Rods are just motion blurred insects
http://www.roswellrods.com is a fallacy and a mis-interpretation!
In the early 90's a number of folks noticed a strange anomaly, that took the form of organic blob-like streaks on stills from video camera footage. Many theories were circulating about how they were UFO's, mysterious flying jellyfish, Angels(?) and even space "insects". One man in particular (Jose Escamilla, the "Rod man") siezed the opportunity and created a cottage-industry of selling videos and promotional materials about the "rods" that made it onto a lot of TV & news shows, revealing their journalistic negligence .... If anyone had bothered to do some simple research & fact checking, this could have been cleared up long ago.
Same goes for "Orb's" - another photo anomaly being interpreted as aliens, souls and robots.
ORBS=dust particles close to the flash (simple test:shake out a rug & take a flash pic, orbs are everywhere!)
RODS=motion blurred bugs (simple test:videotape bees or flies in a glass cage, see the Rods?)
Get over it folks! There are plenty of REAL Mysteries to explore!!!!
Full Details on Mechanics of this Illusion
http://www.opendb.com/sol/bugs.htm Question answered!
dragonlady_mothman
May 8 2005, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(Simbonian @ May 6 2005, 07:08 PM)
The guy who hit one with his car
Trevor James Constable studied these animals way back in the 1950s, photographing them with infrared 35mm film, and Dr. Wilhelm Reich also studied creatures similar to rods that he named bions, Trevor is currently working on rain engineering, a method pioneered by Dr. Reich and founded on his theories of Orgone energy. I have been told that Mr. Constable has given most of his research of rods over to José, although his three books on the subject are freely available. Rods are most fascinating creatures, living under our very noses for all these years and virtually unknown. As to what type of animal they are, I am leaning toward a type of worm considering the model José worked out with the undulating wings/fins. I have been contacted by a person who hit one of these creatures with his car in Penn. He told me the remains consisted of a oily yellowish thick liquid that took several washes to completely remove from his windshield. He told me there were no body parts, no hard structure, only liquid. When you hit a bug, it leaves the hard exoskeleton as well as body juices on your car. The Rainbow rods filmed here in Maine appear to have no visible legs, and seem to have but one main body part, the rod section, two long wings/fins and in some photos noticeable protuberances resembling antenna or I believe possibly a type of ear enabling the rods to navigate with sound somewhat as bats do. Insects have six legs, and three body parts. I know the thought of a flying worm seems ridiculous, but for now it seems the most reasonable choice, even though I am unaware of any other flying worms; snakes, bats, squirrels and lizards yes, (technically the squirrels, snakes and lizards are gliders, but who here is splitting hairs?). But I have never heard of flying worms. There are numerous worms (Polychaete/Tomopterid) living in the oceans, with translucent flesh to the point of being nearly invisible. They use the same basic locomotion as rods (undulating) or flying in the water. Recently I filmed a creature we named the Trident for the shape of its body, similar to the rods yet morphologically very different with a completely different body form. Just today I captured two rods chasing each other. So far I have been unable to film any that are "hundreds of feet long." All of the rods I have in my collection of data are between 3 inches and 2-1/2 to 3 feet in length. Being that these creatures are for all general purposes invisible - only visible under certain conditions - it is difficult to estimate their size without a frame of reference such as a tree or building in front of the creatures. I will eat crow if sometime in the future I can measure one a hundred feet long, but for now I would put their top size at no more then 3 to 4 feet in length, based on the measurements I have made. Having filmed them on every sunny day since early April of this year, keeping detailed notes as to their behavior, it seems to me they have a cycle of behavior which they follow, at least in this area. In early April, only larger rods were captured in the camera traps, rods between 2 to 3 feet in length. The activity level at the beginning of May indicated perhaps a breeding swarm, followed in mid-June by swarms of "neonates/babies" that seem to be looked after by pairs of adults. We have captured the same individual creature, "Sharky," so named due to his ragged wings/fins over a period of several weeks. This could be an indication of these creatures maintaining home territories or protecting breeding areas. I make these claims hesitantly as much more research is needed before these claims can be validated. I have several papers written about these creatures concerning growth, territory, breeding patterns etc. But until someone catches one of these buggers the skeptics will only debunk this whole area of study.
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To my knowlage, rods cant be seen with the naked eye...so how does he know that's what he hit?
I heard about a guy who put his camcorder under the awning of his house, so he had light to see with but not too much to mess with the image. he caught little white things floating in the blue sky and they dont know if its bugs, UFOs or what.
Maybe they're rods!
And rods, being presumably a species of unknown animal, go under cryptozoology.
dragonlady_mothman
May 8 2005, 06:07 PM
There's a pic i posted on the rod thread on the cryptid board. You have a fly in one corner, and a rod in the other. The fly, you can see its wings, extremities, antennae, and all that.
A fly

A rod

both in the same shot
Simbonian
May 8 2005, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ May 8 2005, 03:07 PM)
There's a pic i posted on the rod thread on the cryptid board. You have a fly in one corner, and a rod in the other. The fly, you can see its wings, extremities, antennae, and all that.
A fly

A rod

both in the same shot

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Thanks for posting the pics. I wasn't sure where to post this topic because I'd never posted a topic before
dragonlady_mothman
May 8 2005, 06:28 PM
it's easy to get confused sometimes. i posted a chat about urban legends on te cryptozoology, myths, and legends board, but the one i was using as an example delt with ghosts so it got moved here. *shrugs*
Quarkv2
Nov 17 2007, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (secret_explorer2 @ May 7 2005, 02:29 AM)


Whoa,I have not heard of these before.They do look like rods with wings and the pics are fascinating.If you take a look at the pic with the mulitple rods near a bright light,they sorta look like feathers.Has anybody a clue how they were created?
After hearing that rods might be insects, I filmed some with my Mb Sony Ericson K510i. Conditions: Low angle sunlight filming across the light beams. Held still for 2 mins, full zoom. Result: When played back frame by frame the characteristic rod is seen. Solved? Many thanks to the person that hinted at insects. Another mystery de-mytified.........C wood.
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GirlInBlack
Nov 17 2007, 08:33 PM
I have a hard timg getting excited over some tinly little spinning things that can be seen on film...shrug, who cares. Maybe they are bugs. Maybe the are a new species of bugs, or a new species all together.
They are probably not paranormal, and they are too small to be intelligent life (yawn) boring, regardless of what they are.
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