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Cebrakon
tongue.gif At least some crop circles are not made by human beings. I refer to those crop circles that created themselves instantly underneath small planes looking for crop circles. There are also crop circles deep inside large fields of densely packed wheat with no pathways leading to the crop circle. So, I think at least some crop circles (probably most) are made by one particular species of star-traveling humanoids. Either their craft or their robots that make the crop circles are small balls of light that travel very fast.

ph34r.gif Now the interesting question is, what do the crop circles mean? Are they a message? I don't think so, because that would violate the Prime Directive, the only thing they got right in Star Trek. I do not wish to imply that visiting humanoids bother with the trash we call mass entertainment. I think they are like anthropologists, who never wish to change the primitive tribes they study, unlike missionaries, traders, government officials, or conquistadors. IMHO, anthropologists are quite a cut above those other listed types. I shall call them more evolved, for want of a better term. So my theory is, only highly evolved humanoids have the ability to jump lightyears in an instant, a necessary ability for star travelers. Even Warp Nine or other FTL schemes would be too slow. The universe is too vast. Star-traveling humanoids probably live far apart from one another, hundreds of light-years at least.

ph34r.gif OK, same question again. What do the crop circles mean, if they cannot be providing us with any information? Well, they could be a stimulus to our creativity and our curiosity. They may lead us to think about ley lines, and symbolism, and higher math, and all sorts of things. That would not violate the Prime Directive.
MrScienceGuy
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fallingalien
could it just mean they are landing more then we think? after reading some stuff about the goverment, I think aliens are evil creatures.
FLY SPITTA
How do you figure that they are evil?
seeking
let me get this out of the way, that film of the balls of light forming the crop circle was a hoax.
convert-proof
QUOTE(seeking @ May 7 2005, 09:00 PM)
let me get this out of the way, that film of the balls of light forming the crop circle was a hoax.
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no sh*t, it could be paper bags! definately fake.


Also, i also believe the greys are VERY evil. alien.gif From my opinion, thay have visited earth, but i don't know if they are in copes with the US govornment.

IF the greys are, than probrally the US gov is trading their citizens for experiments in exchange for technolegy. alien.gif

If not, then the greys are "stealing" humans for experiments, especially for breeding purposes. alien.gif

MrScienceGuy, i know you don't agree, but please don't flame me or others. Please disagree, state your proof, in a respectful manner. grin2.gif
MrScienceGuy
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again, a weak comeback. disgust.gif try harder, or don't reply.
Cebrakon
QUOTE(MrScienceGuy @ May 7 2005, 07:24 PM)
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grin2.gif Mr. ScienceGuy, I love the succinct way you put things tongue.gif . I also like your sigfile:

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Ok, we know you disagree with something. You don't believe there are crop circles? You think 2 old geezers with a board and a rope made all of them? Please give us a clue. Although I must say I always enjoy your posts.
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seeking
QUOTE(convert-proof @ May 7 2005, 11:54 PM)
QUOTE(seeking @ May 7 2005, 09:00 PM)
let me get this out of the way, that film of the balls of light forming the crop circle was a hoax.
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no sh*t, it could be paper bags! definately fake.

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ok, just making sure everyone knew that because the thread starter did say


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Either their craft or their robots that make the crop circles are small balls of light that travel very fast.
MrScienceGuy
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Alright, you want to know what I think? I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. At first the circles themselves were mysterious. Then it was discovered that it was a hoax (duh). To keep the myth going, we are no longer content with the simple explanations. Radiation, unique changes in soil and plant structure, etc., all of this is now claimed to separate the hoaxes from the "real" ones, when in reality none of this has been sufficiently verified and proven true. Some people just want the myth living on. Those who create them (keep in mind, they are getting more elaborate as time goes on), and those who want to believe in them simply perpetuate the things you posted in this and other thread. I'm not going to say that they are all lies, thought some probably are, and others have been simply blown out of proportion. But if you just need to believe in the mystery of the crop circles, aliens, ghosts, etc., no one can stop you. I suppose everyone needs to believe in something. happy.gif

ROGER
I live in whats called "Tornado Ally" were twisters and dust devils are a yearly occurrence. yes I have seen crop circles, around here they are fairly common. And they are a Natural Phenomena. No UFO's, spooks, Satanists, or Witches dancing.

Well I am not sure of the last one. Any way there is a small number of people, some well published, that want to make their mark in the world by creating these fantastic and bizarre storys.

Now a male Dog makes his mark in life by standing next to a fire Hydrant. I trust his statement over some of the Crop Circle storys I have read.

In my opinion! thumbsup.gif
LucidElement
i made a huge thread on crop circles a while back..had like 114 people write back, anyways i just reecently watched something on TV, this guy said he made a lot of them, but there was plenty out there that even he couldnt imagine how a person could make, the guy himself who addmited to making them, also admitted that there were some oout there which were so interact they coulndt of been done by man.
MrScienceGuy
And so the legend lives on thumbsup.gif
Me_Again
Ahhh, The Legend of Man With Too Much Time on His Hands. rofl.gif

Crop circles are 'old' news, have you heard about the ice circles w00t.gif

http://www.excelexgold.com/articles/ice_ci...ice_circles.htm

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/01/16.html

Really someone should make a DVD on how to make a crop/ice circle; Otherwise, I believe that some of this phenonmena is unexplained.That is unless you have an explaination for everything laugh.gif tongue.gif
MrScienceGuy
I dont have all explanations and I dont plan on having them. Crop circles and other hoaxes are not at the top of my list.
Tricia-Ann
Here's an interesting site about the posible explanation of crop circles


http://imageevent.com/cropcirclerational/cropcirclesdecoded
eddiez
Some of the complex crop circle patterns look pretty amazing. I would be very interested to see a documentary which showed people actually creating one of those really big, really convoluted patterns and how it looked from beginning to end, and how long it takes, and how many people. I mean, sure, anyone can create a plain old circle - just have someone stand there and hold a rope and go around in circles and mash the stalks down with a board. But how can you keep track of where you are at when making very large, intricate patterns and make them look so accurate and even, especially the ones with complex curves? Whoever is making those patterns is *very* talented or has access to some really impressive techniques and tools. Where would you learn this kind of thing? Where would the crop circle makers do their practice runs?
Kat_Kloud
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Also, i also believe the greys are VERY evil.  From my opinion, thay have visited earth, but i don't know if they are in copes with the US govornment.

IF the greys are, than probrally the US gov is trading their citizens for experiments in exchange for technolegy. 

If not, then the greys are "stealing" humans for experiments, especially for breeding purposes.


Someone's been watching too many shows on the sci-fi channel. And that's coming from sci-fi-loving me.

The GREYS oh dear. Really, from what I've seen/heard they are all the cliche Roswell aliens. And if the Roswell incident is real, then they're probably pissed about what happened to them when they crashed here. I'd wanna beat the crap out of Earth, too.
Cebrakon
QUOTE(MrScienceGuy @ May 8 2005, 12:55 AM)
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Alright, you want to know what I think? I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. At first the circles themselves were mysterious. Then it was discovered that it was a hoax (duh). To keep the myth going, we are no longer content with the simple explanations. Radiation, unique changes in soil and plant structure, etc., all of this is now claimed to separate the hoaxes from the "real" ones, when in reality none of this has been sufficiently verified and proven true. Some people just want the myth living on. Those who create them (keep in mind, they are getting more elaborate as time goes on), and those who want to believe in them simply perpetuate the things you posted in this and other thread. I'm not going to say that they are all lies, thought some probably are, and others have been simply blown out of proportion. But if you just need to believe in the mystery of the crop circles, aliens, ghosts, etc., no one can stop you. I suppose everyone needs to believe in something. happy.gif
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ph34r.gif You are so naive, Mr. ScienceGuy. You think because two old geezers got some free publicity on English telly that the whole mystery vanishes. The devil is in the details. How do these old gaffers get into the middle of a wheat field without leaving a trail? Don't tell me you believe in levitation. What about the magnetic anomalies? What about the pilots who saw crop circles form instantly? That is not scientific method; that is the religion of science, the articles of faith which one must accept to get tenure.
Cebrakon
QUOTE(Tricia-Ann @ May 10 2005, 08:50 AM)
Here's an interesting site about the posible explanation of crop circles


http://imageevent.com/cropcirclerational/cropcirclesdecoded
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I agree, Tricia Ann, a very interesting site.
eddiez
QUOTE(Cebrakon @ May 6 2005, 11:50 PM)
tongue.gif At least some crop circles are not made by human beings.  I refer to those crop circles that created themselves instantly underneath small planes looking for crop circles.  There are also crop circles deep inside large fields of densely packed wheat with no pathways leading to the crop circle.  So, I think at least some crop circles (probably most) are made by one particular species of star-traveling humanoids.  Either their craft or their robots that make the crop circles are small balls of light that travel very fast.

ph34r.gif Now the interesting question is, what do the crop circles mean?  Are they a message?  I don't think so, because that would violate the Prime Directive, the only thing they got right in Star Trek.  I do not wish to imply that visiting humanoids bother with the trash we call mass entertainment.  I think they are like anthropologists, who never wish to change the primitive tribes they study, unlike missionaries, traders, government officials, or conquistadors.  IMHO, anthropologists are quite a cut above those other listed types.  I shall call them more evolved, for want of a better term.  So my theory is, only highly evolved humanoids have the ability to jump lightyears in an instant, a necessary ability for star travelers.  Even Warp Nine or other FTL schemes would be too slow.  The universe is too vast.  Star-traveling humanoids probably live far apart from one another, hundreds of light-years at least.

ph34r.gif OK, same question again.  What do the crop circles mean, if they cannot be providing us with any information?  Well, they could be a stimulus to our creativity and our curiosity.  They may lead us to think about ley lines, and symbolism, and higher math, and all sorts of things.  That would not violate the Prime Directive.
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I'd really like to see some photos of crop circles inside of fields of densely packed wheat (or whatever) with no pathways to them. I've looked at hundreds of photos of crop circles on various websites, but in every single one, the crop circles were intersected by a path (usually a pre-existing one) where someone could have walked. If you have a link to any of these photos, please post it.
Cebrakon
QUOTE(eddiez @ Jun 5 2005, 12:21 PM)



I'd really like to see some photos of crop circles inside of fields of densely packed wheat (or whatever) with no pathways to them. I've looked at hundreds of photos of crop circles on various websites, but in every single one, the crop circles were intersected by a path (usually a pre-existing one) where someone could have walked. If you have a link to any of these photos, please post it.
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no.gif No, sorry. I base this view on the report by a farmer in Canada, who was harvesting his wheat and came across a crop circle out in the middle. The farm itself is in the almost uninhabited prairie provinces of Canada. I never forget an interesting fact, but alas, unless I write down the source, I quickly forget that. Crop circles are not among my areas of primary research.

grin2.gif One thing I have noticed about the British crop circles is that they always have tracks left by farm equipment. I suspect British farmers apply top dressing of fertilizer, or perhaps anti-fungicide. A hoaxer could easily walk along one of those equipment tracks. In the US and Canada, we never run any equipment over the wheat. If it has aphids, we use crop dusters (airplanes).
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