Now, I don't get deja-vu too often, but I decided to put it up for discussion anyway.

Whenever it does happen to me, it's usually over minor things, like talking to someone, or just walking down the street. It feels as though i've kinda dreamt the event before, and although I don't feel as though I can tell what's going to happen, it feels as though it has happened before on some level.

I was talking to a mate about this recently, and we came up with the idea that these things have happened before, and that our lives are on repeat, over and over, so therefore we're somehow treading the same path and remembering some of the scenery each time it happens. We repeat ourselves because the universe implodes on itself, creating another big bang and then expanding the same way it did before, creating everything exactly the same way.

OK, so it ain't the best theory in the world, but we liked it!

The theories I have heard most attribute déjà vu to simple fantasy or wish fulfillment, while some ascribe it to a mismatching in the brain that causes the brain to mistake the present for the past. And still others believe it is related to a past-life experience.

Here is an article on it:

déjà vu
Déjà vu is French for "already seen." Déjà vu is an uncanny feeling or illusion of having already seen or experienced something that is being experienced for the first time. If we assume that the experience is actually of a remembered event, then déjà vu probably occurs because an original experience was neither fully attended to nor elaborately encoded in memory. If so, then it would seem most likely that the present situation triggers the recollection of a fragment from one's past. The experience may seem uncanny if the memory is so fragmented that no strong connections can be made between the fragment and other memories.

Thus, the feeling that one has been there before is often due to the fact that one has been there before. One has simply forgotten most of the original experience because one was not paying close attention the first time. The original experience may even have occurred only seconds or minutes earlier.

On the other hand, the déjà vu experience may be due to having seen pictures or heard vivid stories many years earlier. The experience may be part of the dim recollections of childhood.

However, it is possible that the déjà vu feeling is triggered by a neurochemical action in the brain that is not connected to any actual experience in the past. One feels strange and identifies the feeling with a memory, even though the experience is completely new.

The term was applied by Emile Boirac (1851-1917), who had strong interests in psychic phenomena. Boirac's term directs our attention to the past. However, a little reflection reveals that what is unique about déjà vu is not something from the past but something in the present, namely, the strange feeling one has. We often have experiences the novelty of which is unclear. In such cases we may have been led to ask such questions as, "Have I read this book before?" "Is this an episode of Inspector Morse I've seen before?" "This place looks familiar; have I been here before?" Yet, these experiences are not accompanied by an uncanny feeling. We may feel a bit confused, but the feeling associated with the déjà vu experience is not one of confusion; it is one of strangeness. There is nothing strange about not remembering whether you've read a book before, especially if you are fifty years old and have read thousands of books over your lifetime. In the déjà vu experience, however, we feel strange because we don't think we should feel familiar with the present perception. That sense of inappropriateness is not present when one is simply unclear whether one has read a book or seen a film before.

Thus, it is possible that the attempt to explain the déjà vu experience in terms of lost memory, past lives, clairvoyance, and so on may be completely misguided. We should be talking about the déjà vu feeling. That feeling may be caused by a brain state, by neurochemical factors during perception that have nothing to do with memory. It is worth noting that the déjà vu feeling is common among psychiatric patients. The déjà vu feeling also frequently precedes temporal lobe epilepsy attacks. When Wilder Penfield did his famous experiment in 1955 in which he electrically stimulated the temporal lobes, he found about 8% of his subjects experienced "memories." He assumed he elicited actual memories. They could well have been hallucinations and the first examples of artificially stimulated déjà vu.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm...com/dejavu.html

Hmm i'm sure i've posted in this thread before...

I'm not entirely happy with the idea it is a chemical inbalance or whatever in the brain. I actually do have deja-vus and it feels like it, years before it actually happens. It's in my mind suddenly as a vague memory of something I dreamed. One particular deja-vu I had I remember thinking to myself "who are all these people here? I'm supposed to know them, but I don't." And years later, I had new friends, and was hanging with them when that specific moment happened.
If it was a biological flaw, I couldn't have experienced that feeling already. I couldn't suddenly forget who all those people were.

They say when you die you see your whole life passing by.
Some say that also happens right before you're born.

How do you know the deja-vu wasnt a thought you never had that you only thought you had years before?

Because I already had it as a vague memory of a dream before I met those people.

Let me get this straight... so we repeat because the universe implodes and explodes itself over and over, yup seems perfectly logical to me! Because when the world implodes it's not like everything gets crushed into a super small object (sarcasm). Anyway, other stupid things I found with your formula include everything being created the exact same way again... Also I really enjoyed the idea that the human brain could remember things from before it was created (before the universe was created) yet it could only remember what the the brain in the universe before's brain knew, even though it had been destroyed. Really, brilliant idea.

it aint that bad of a theory, it's still disputable

The last time I had this Dajavu' I knew it was a dream I had a few months before. This makes me wonder if we have dajavu' because we have the same dream but don't remember it?

You theory is crackpot. I'm sorry to sound so harsh but you have to get your head out of the clouds. The fact is if the universe imploded you would be reduced to the size of a small garden pea...or worse.

The universe is not exploding and imploding over and over, for example if it did it takes millions of years to do so.....humans barely live 100. Bit far fetched don't you think?

There is nothing ''otherworldly'' about Dejavu'. The human mind can be very scetchy...and very uncertain. So if you take part in a similar activity to something you did previously it is entirely possible your mind will remember it but not on a conscious level. So you get the feeling you have done this before but don't think you have.
It is also possible that media influences can affect Dejavu'. For example, you watch a television show and something happens. 10 years later you are doing a similar or same thing to on the show. Your mind forgets that you saw it on tv and it gets mixed up with your original memorys and causes you to think you've done this before. When in fact it wasnt even you.

Theres my theory.


Imorningsun: Is your avatar from an eyewitness film on big cats?? I have that on video I recognise the clip
And yes, I believe you could be right about having dreams, forgetting them, having the same dream another night therefore causing Dejavu'.

This is not relevant AT ALL to what the thread starter is saying, it doesnt disprove what he has said in the absoloute slightest, what are you talking about?

sorry to sound so harsh

I believe it IS. I was coming back on his theory. Are you saying you're crushed down every so often then expanded again. Get real.

And I aint sorry. I could quite happily be harsh to you if you try catching me out. I don't take kindly to it.

a few months back, after catching up an a long list of tasks, I made it a point to spend 2 weeks in meditation. Everyday after work I meditated for atleast 1 hour before dinner, and then I meditated for a couple of hours before I went to sleep. I told a good friend/co-worker what I was doing because we share some basic beliefs/concepts of life, spirituality, etc. During this time, I was experiencing deja-vu at a growing rate. Finally, about a week and a half later, I had about 6 experiences in 1 day. Then, I had an experience where I not only remembered seeing what was happening presently as if it had happened before, but I also so what was to happen next. I pulled my friend aside quickly and told him. I few minutes later it happened just as I told him. i only did this so if i had seen correctly, I'd have a witness for myself...as I believe that we should be our own worse judges and our own skeptics so we can keep ourselves in check during our existence in this insane sanity.

Ok let me get this straight.

Where on this forum did I say that my theory is the absolute gospel, 100% correct, and if you don't accept my theory, I'll have you taken away from all you know and disposed of?

Don't recall typing that.

Look, it was a simple chat with a mate, we discussed the above theory, in a pub, over a pint, and had a laugh.

As for it being ludicrous. Is it just as ludicrous as saying that our universe is really the size of what we know as a grain of sand, and we're simply being washed up on the beach of a planet which exists in a galaxy, within a universe, within an atom on a planet, within a galaxy within a universe............(it goes on)

Truth is, we don't have clue where the f*ck we really come from, so saying that I'm right or you're wrong is NOT what I intended for this thread.

I'm sure I've written this before

For those of you that just kindly accepted the idea. Thanks. Long days and pleasant nights.

There actually is a scientific explanation, I think. I forget what it is, but I know that a lot of people who have been heavy hallucinogenic drug users experience deja vu all the time. Former LSD addicts can spend a whole day in a deja vu-like state. So it probably has something to do with brain chemistry.

The official scientific explanation is the brain stores images a few milliseconds earlier in your memory than it interprets it during a deja-vu.
But as I said, I'm not happy with that explanation. Just as sharkster said, you sometimes know what's gonna happen in a while. And you can see further ahead than those few milliseconds.

when I get de-ja-vu it is like after I have a dream. It is like it is coming to reality. It is awesome. Like I already knew it was going to happen. No big deal.

*sigh*

Why the childish defensive attitude?





NO its not far fetched at all, you just didnt read it properly, he didnt once say that the whole universe explodes and them implodes in a single humans lifetime!?

He merely said that for example he would live his life, and then for the next however millions of billions of years the universe would carry on expanding until it one day imploded, then exploded exactly the same way it did before so in another couple of billion years he would just so happen to be born again, and live his life the exact same way, hence dejavu.




Now do you see why this comment makes you sound pretty ignorant on the 'theory' ?



And like he said, never once was it stated that this theory was 100% correct and infallible, just interesting and up for debate, I was just merely pointing out that your points were off-beat, trying to catch him out, like you think Im doing to you.

i have dejavu's all he time. one i clearly remember happened in march. i was at an anime convention and i was in a big room with chairs everywhere. (it was a screening for anime) something made me really upset that night and i went to the corner of the room, sat down and called my friend. Then i look up and see chandeliers on the cieling. it made the room glow and orangy color.
I felt like this happened before,( the room, the chairs, being n the corner of the room, calling my friend) but it couldn't have cuz i've never been to that hotel or room before.

to me Deja Vu is a trip, you feel like youve been there before, and same with me it only happens usually when im talking to someone, but i dont no.. i wish i understood it in more depth.

For me deja vu has always been one of my favorite experiences. I personally love when I get into a state of some kind of altered conciousness and thats how I look at deja vu, it sjust a nother mode your brain is in.

When I've had it I can almost always distinctly recall a dream and a time frame for how long ago I had this dream and the dream matches up with whats going on around me. For the most part it isnt like predicting whats going to happen its more like looking around and instead of trying to process the information around me and interpret it and make some action its just like I can sit back and just watch as everything happens because I've already been through it and processed everything and made the decisions of what I'm gonna do.

Anyway its one of my favorite feelings in the world, its like being a bit high without having to do anything to get it.

I used to get Deja Vu all the time when I was younger, and I still get it occasionally. When I was around 9, around 1/4 times when I would be trying to go to sleep, I would get Deja Vu, but it was an unusual form, the only way I can describe it is it felt like I was being shrunk down and pulled into a jar . Sounds kind of dumb I know but its the only way I can explain it.

To the one who posted above me about the whole universe contracting/expanding etc. That gave me a strange thought. If the 'Big Crunch' and Big bang are real, than would it be possible that everytime there is a big bang, the EXACT same thing happens as it did before? I cant properly explain what I mean

It's not strictly Deja-vu, but i have always had a thing about an image that can occasionally pop into my mind.

It is of a piece of string, that is standing upright, and is holding up a rock or boulder of unfeasible size or weight. This is all on a generic background.. with nothing else but the rock and string.

Very strange, i find.

No where did I ever assume that you believed your theory to be gospel. Well anyway, I am reserved the right to think your theory is stupid and voice my opinion on how much your theory sucks as much as you have the right to voice your stupid theory in the first place. Seriously though, I didn't really understand where you came up with this theory until I saw that you had some to drink. The universe implodes and explodes constantly... it is created the exact same way.... a brain that has been created can remember things from a brain that has been destroyed...

Deja Vous from what i understand is when you see something before the brain has time to react, usually only a split second difference, yet when your brain has caught up with your eyes, it seems like you have seen this before, its like your retina takes a photo, your brian processes it making you feel like youve done it/seen it before, that make sense?

I've always enjoyed the idea that time moves in circles

If you have it often you are likely to be suffering from a Neurological illness or are in some state of mind like depression.

from what i've heard, daja-vu happens to people who have some time of psychic ablity


or somthing like that, i'm not sure, but i do know that i've been predicting minor things around my home and school that came true and that daja-vu happens onces a week at the least.

Wow what a great topic! Loved reading everyones input. I myself experience Daja Vu often and LOVE IT! It makes me smile and chuckle because I almost feel like I am having a trick played on me. Sometimes I even get that really spooky Daja Vu which involves exact objects, smells, and sounds.

I remember the first time I experienced Daja Vu as a child. It scared the bejesus out of me. I was in my grandfathers study starring at a clock and when it turned to a specific time I suddenly felt "it". This has happened I thought. As a child! Imagine!