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Wings of Selkhet
I watched a 20/20 news special a few years back on organ donation and the severe need for organs here in the U.S....they paid people $25 at the DMV to check the "organ donation" box on their driver's license, and people were suddenly more willing to donate their organs...without the $25, people would simply say 'no' to donating their organs.

I personally find it incredibly immoral to refuse to donate your organs...I think it's simply another example of how selfish and self-centered humans can truly be. When people tell me they don't want to donate their organs, I have to try hard not to scream at them. I think it's sick. I don't know why I have such a strong stance on this issue...

Anyway, a lot of people seem to have religious reasons for not donating their organs. I still don't quite understand the validity of these. Does anyone here have any insight to offer into the religious aspects of organ donation?
JennRose
Ahh! I voted wrong. sad.gif I AM planning to donate. I thought the question was the same as the title: "Any religious concerns about donating?".

So anyway, the 'No' is supposed to be a yes. Stupid...stupid...stupid... no.gif
BurnSide
I'll change your vote for you JennRose. original.gif
JennRose
QUOTE(BurnSide @ May 11 2005, 01:45 PM)
I'll change your vote for you JennRose. original.gif
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Thanks, Burns. This is a really important issue to me, so I felt like such a rube. blush.gif

Good topic, Selkhet! grin2.gif
JMPD1
please change mine to a 'yes' as well. I neglected to find the actual title of the poll.

I am, and have been, an organ donor for years. Not to say I've donated my organs, but I figure if I'm dead, I really won't need my gizzards anymore.
SilverCougar
Well I voted No and ment it. I don't plan on donating them... I can't.... heh nothing religious, it's all medical.

BurnSide
Changed yours to JMPD1. original.gif
SilverCougar
Burnside's such a sweety... I could just eat him up! >D
JMPD1
Thank ye burnside.

And I thought the cannibalism thread was in the bizarre news section......
BurnSide
The zombie outbreak?
It was a joke, i loved it to the jokes section. original.gif
brittish_gurl
If i'm deceased...... other than that I don't want to have an operation......... it's not selfish people just worry about what will happen later...... what if they have a failed kidney or something... they're gonna need the other one, lol tongue.gif
hyperactive
well... i am not an organ or blood donor. it has nothing to do with any religions. I do not welcome the opening of the body via butchery, either to give or receive. We make ourselves into contianers of replacable parts, more like organic machines. If the body can not heal itself, then you die. Sounds like a hard stance, but i live by and will die by it.
Amalgamut
One reason why I say No....

Lets say I get in a bad wreck, and I have no pulse. The doctors may be more interested in my organs than my life. (more organs, more money) I don't want them to start taking my organs out untill they know damn good and well that I'm dead, and that I can't be revived.

Does this have anything to do with my religion? No.
TooFarGone
Quite the misleading question................

As for weither I have any religious problems with it...no.

As for myself donating.............I dont know.

Burnside, will you be extremly kind and change my vote to I dont know....and better yet...........change the thread name, so it actually reflects the question asked?
BurnSide
laugh.gif I think that's a good idea. Seems to be alot of confusion about.
Vote changed. original.gif
TooFarGone
Why thank you......and your avatar inspired my current one.........I never realized where yours was from untill I read it in the avatar thread.
BurnSide
And a nice avatar it is. grin2.gif
TooFarGone
Shh...we should keep this as a secret.

And due to the people in my avatar, and the guy in yours............does it make us enemies???


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BurnSide
Yes. But for now, we'll be going back on topic.
__Kratos__
My organs are my own. You donate organs to save lifes, while the hospitals are making a very pretty penny off your flesh.
Fluffybunny
They can have anything they want; I won't be using it. I have legal documents stating my wishes as well, and my wife knows.

I can't see why anyone would not want to donate; imagine the comfort that your family and friends could get from knowing that you donated a part of yourself to help others, and in a small way were still a part of this world...added to the fact that it is all going to rot anyway, and no one is going to see it ever again, it seems like such a waste to not do so...
Paranoid Android
I for one plan on donating my organs.

I don't know if it's just a U.S thing, but in Australia there are very strict laws about organ donations, which make it very much less profitable than in America, so I have no worries about them cutting me up while i'm still alive.

Organ donation is not based on how much money one has, rather on the need of the patient.

But then again, maybe that's just my perception of the AMerican/ Australian medical system. If anyone knows for sure can they confirm or deny this?

Until next time,

P.S - if anyone ever watches the section "Live Organ Transplants" in Monty Python's Meaning of Life, you might change you mind on organ donation grin2.gif
riotboy555
I voted for on this, because I'm not going to need my organs when I am dead. thumbsup.gif
Mekorig
Yep, i gonna to donate, because i dont see the necesity of keeping your organs after you died when someone else need more to live. We are biologic machines in a sense. When you died, its out, and your body start to rot. Use them for a better porpuse.

PS: Anyway, after the extract anything the need, i plan to have my body cremated. There isnt any need to keep my roting remains in the soil.
101
Yes because I won't need them and if someone else can benefit from my organs . Sure why not. I think it is great. I would love to do this. I would donate one of my kidneys now if someone i loved needed it. So I mean it is all about the person I guess.... tongue.gif
DarkEntity99
All I can say is i wouldn't doante a finger nail for 25$
now 25'000 dollars and Up .. then we can talk.....
thank you come again.....
RH2097
Nope, they're mine and I need them, hence, why I have them to live. Now if I died and someone needed them, then they can go nuts.
LuQy
Hmmm.... ok I answered NO simply because my organs are probably in quite bad shape with my cholesterol levels off the chart unsure.gif hmm.gif so it would actually be harming others to use them...

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Anyway, a lot of people seem to have religious reasons for not donating their organs. I still don't quite understand the validity of these. Does anyone here have any insight to offer into the religious aspects of organ donation?

Anyway, regarding religious reasons (Islamically) the following rulling applies:

1) It is permitted to transplant or graft an organ from one place of a person’s body to another, so long as one is careful to ascertain that the benefits of this operation outweigh any harm that may result from it, and on the condition that this is done to replace something that has been lost, or to restore its appearance or regular function, or to correct some fault or disfigurement which is causing physical or psychological distress.

2) It is permitted to transplant an organ from one person’s body to another, if it is an organ that can regenerate itself, such as skin and blood, provided that the donor is mature and fully understands what he is doing, and that all the other relevant shariah (Islamic Law) conditions are met.

3) It is permitted to use part of an organ that has been removed from the body because of illness to benefit another person, such as using the cornea of an eye removed because of illness.

4) It is unlawful (prohibited) to transplant or use an organ on which life depends, such as taking a heart from a living person to transplant into another person.

5) It is unlawful (forbidden) to take an organ from a living person when doing so could impair an essential and vital function in his body, even though his life itself may not be under threat, such as removing one kidney or the corneas of both eyes etc...

6) It is permitted to transplant an organ from a dead person to a living person when his life depends on receiving that organ, or when vital functions of his body are otherwise impaired, on the condition that permission is given either by the person before his death or by his heirs, or by the leader of the Muslims in cases where the dead person’s identity is unknown or he has no heirs.

7) Care should be taken to ensure that in all of the above situations where transplantation is permitted, no buying or selling of organs is involved. It is not permitted to trade in human organs under any circumstance. However, the question of whether the beneficiary may spend money to obtain an organ he needs, or to show his appreciation, is a matter which is still under the research of the scholars.

8) Anything other than the scenarios described above is still subject to scholarly debate, and requires further detailed research in the light of medical research and Islamic rulings...
Wings of Selkhet
Just to clarify...I'm not talking about donating your organs while you're alive...I mean after you've died. tongue.gif
JMPD1
TO LuQy: What are the prohibitions, if any, on a transplant or transfusion from females to males, and vice versa?

Just wondering since shariah laws are very harsh towards women.
AztecInca
I will indeed be donating my organs when I pass away, just being able to help so many people is trully a worthwhile endevaour and what use could I possibly have for my organs when I`m dead.
Walken
I would, and will, donate.

Like the Doctor says:

"What about organ donation?"

"That's differnt"

"A differnt morrality. Get used to it or go home."
openmind1963
i am an organ donor,if a part of me can help someone after
i pass,that's great.
Cendari
Yes, I plan on donating. In fact I'm going to put down, "Help Yourself" on my card. Whatever can be used to help someone, take it. I'm not going to cut down people who don't want to donate. That's their choice and they have the right to refuse for any reason. Although I sometimes wonder why more people don't want to give blood. With as many people as the world has, we should never be at Yellow Alert. Oh well, that's just my thoughts.

I have also asked some of my fellow Christians the same question. We couldn't find anything religious that says we shouldn't, doesn't mean there isn't, but it was mostly left up to each individual.

Some people think that if God wanted people to live longer, He would not have made them sick. And to donate would interfer with God's plans. Others think that since God gave us the ability to transplant organs, that's His way of saying we should help by donating. That seems to be the major debate amoung Christians. I don't see God being angry either way. It's just one of those issues. Obviously if a person has health problems, they might not want to donate or be specific on the organs that are healthy.

I know my mom isn't too fond of it because she's afraid my organs will go to criminals. I keep reassuring her that isn't going to happen, but she's not so easily convinced. Even if I had proof, she still wouldn't believe me.

Anyway like I said in the beginning, I am going to donate my organs.
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