JohnnyBoyC
May 13 2005, 12:38 AM
I believe that there was once life on Mara, actually, it has been provent hat 87% of Mars was covered in Water so ya there was life, andwhy couldnt that have been inteligent enough to build a giant face?
BurnSide
May 13 2005, 12:41 AM
Evidently you're a little behind the times, not to long ago new extremely detailed high quality shots were taken of the face on mars which revealed it to have no face-like structures at all, it's just a mountain. Looks like any other mountain anywhere else on earth or on mars. The original face shot was just a lucky shot of shadows.
Just because mars has ice on it at the polar caps, which by the way is not alot, does not mean life could be sustained. There could be microscopic bacteria fossiled from long ago, but we know there is no intelligent life currently living there, it's a dust rock floating in space.
Here's a picture of the face on mars from what we now know it to look like.
Odinson
May 13 2005, 01:03 AM
That is a weirdly shaped mountainn Burnside. I too think it is pretty farfetched for Mars to have once sustained life. No evidence. Not even bacteria, as far as I know. It's easy to see why it is said, by believers, to be manmade. It's base looks almost rounded.
But for me, I actually believed that the original "face" was real. The one that came out in the 90's. Since I found out it was an enhanced image, I have become skeptical of any "faces" on Mars.
Malicious
May 13 2005, 02:04 AM
i've heard many theories. one being that when a meteor hit earth, it split off a piece of it that became our moon and water was knocked into space and landed on mars @_@
oh yeah.... i've heard of pyramids being on other planets O_o is this true?
BurnSide
May 13 2005, 02:06 AM
None have ever been found, so so far, no.
Fable
May 13 2005, 02:17 AM
Yeah, people have claimed to have found pyramids, towers, forests. You name it and someone has probally seen it. In a weird way, it's almost like a Where's Waldo book. Supposedly another face was seen in a photo and a lion's head as well. Shadows are powerful at igniting imaginations, that at least is a sure bet.
BurnSide
May 13 2005, 02:25 AM
Yeah, the lions head apparently seen in the image i posted above, from top down. There's another topic about that.
It's like seeing shapes in clouds.
Fable
May 13 2005, 02:39 AM
Thats right, I remember seeing the topic on the Lion's head. And you're so right on the fact that it is like looking in the clouds for images. Thanks for reminding me about the topic BurnSide.
hbd777
May 13 2005, 02:39 AM
I agree with burnside, people have a tendency of wanting to see things, that is the greatest gift to human life is our imagination.
Another point I would like to raise is the fact that if any evidence of any structures requiring intelligent life to have been built where discovered anywhere else but earth, Im very sure that this discovery would be kept under wraps for quite some time, could you imagine the Vatican and all its teachings from the bible been proven incorrect, that goes for all other religions too, (Im just to ignorant to know them to list)
Amalgamut
May 13 2005, 10:38 AM
like i said many times before, we won't know until humans set foot in this region.
but even so i doubt that this face was made by anyone. this "face" is extremely large, and it would be very difficult to construct anything of this size.
Agent. Mulder
Feb 20 2006, 07:09 PM
because of my vast imagination, i still like to beleive theres a face on mars, that could have come from the worn out ruins from another civilization. far fetched, i know. it is probably just another moutain.
Rykster
Feb 20 2006, 07:13 PM
Ok, I don't want to post duplicate posts, but since we have a spate of duplicate threads going, so be it.
Life in this universe is likely ubiquitous. Even simple life is likely on several bodies in the solar system. Intelligent life is obvious enough that we would have no doubts if it had been on Mars. It has not. Let's continue the search for ET elsewhere and stop calling every inkblot we see our granpapa.
et's daddy
Feb 20 2006, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ May 12 2005, 09:25 PM) [snapback]619518[/snapback]
It's like seeing shapes in clouds.
OMGyou see shapes in clouds ? ? ?
and you skeptics make fun of us believers
what a kook
Yelekiah
Feb 20 2006, 08:42 PM
Which is called pareidolia. But for a while some did believe that it looked artificial based on the older photographs. A vague symmetry.
joc
Feb 20 2006, 08:46 PM
Since I can't see Burnsides image, and I just posted this same pic only a few days ago...I post it again here:
Raptor
Feb 20 2006, 08:50 PM
QUOTE(JohnnyBoyC @ May 13 2005, 12:38 AM) [snapback]619385[/snapback]
I believe that there was once life on Mara, actually, it has been provent hat 87% of Mars was covered in Water so ya there was life, andwhy couldnt that have been inteligent enough to build a giant face?
We don't know the prerequisites of life, just because there was water doesn't meant here was life. For all we know there could be a thousand other things required aswell.
et's daddy
Feb 20 2006, 08:52 PM
seems to me that could have been a man made object
just try and picture what Mount Rushmore would look like in 1000 years with no upkeep
probably worse
Raptor
Feb 20 2006, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Feb 20 2006, 08:42 PM) [snapback]1070513[/snapback]
Which is called pareidolia. But for a while some did believe that it looked artificial based on the older photographs. A vague symmetry.
Haha, I seem to remember having a debate with you back when you first joined about whether they were artificial or not.
Yelekiah
Feb 20 2006, 08:59 PM
Yes, I showed you a link. And remember, I did *not* think it was a face.
Raptor
Feb 20 2006, 09:09 PM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Feb 20 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]1070563[/snapback]
Yes, I showed you a link. And remember, I did *not* think it was a face.

Lol, maybe not. But you
have significantly changed your views.
I think if there was ever any life on Mars (which I doubt), than any remnants of a civilisation will be way below the surface.
xstortionist
Feb 20 2006, 09:15 PM
only thing that baffles everyone who still believes the face on mars...is "why can't we duplicate the same picture and shadow effect?"
Yelekiah
Feb 20 2006, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Feb 20 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1070575[/snapback]
Lol, maybe not. But you
have significantly changed your views.
My views are still the same actually. I still don't think it's a face.
Raptor
Feb 20 2006, 09:18 PM
^It would require the planet to be facing the Sun in the exact right position for the shadow to be cast, the photo would need to be taken from a certain angle and height and the quality would have to be very low; I'm positive if anyone wanted to recreate the photo they would be able to, but as far as I'm aware they haven't set out to do it.
xstortionist
Feb 20 2006, 09:20 PM
i think it was a mask!!! to hide the real face of the civilization who lived on mars!@!! YEA THATS THE ANSWER!!
Yelekiah
Feb 20 2006, 09:21 PM
YES!!
Raptor
Feb 20 2006, 09:23 PM
QUOTE(xstortionist @ Feb 20 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1070606[/snapback]
i think it was a mask!!! to hide the real face of the civilization who lived on mars!@!! YEA THATS THE ANSWER!!
That would have to be a pretty big mask.
Rykster
Feb 21 2006, 04:51 AM
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Feb 20 2006, 03:50 PM) [snapback]1070539[/snapback]
just because there was water doesn't meant here was life.
If there was LIQUID water, life would be likely.
QUOTE
it has been provent hat 87% of Mars was covered in Water
Where'd ya get that figure?
Fallen
Feb 21 2006, 05:43 AM
QUOTE(BurnSide @ May 13 2005, 11:41 AM) [snapback]619388[/snapback]
Evidently you're a little behind the times, not to long ago new extremely detailed high quality shots were taken of the face on mars which revealed it to have no face-like structures at all, it's just a mountain. Looks like any other mountain anywhere else on earth or on mars. The original face shot was just a lucky shot of shadows.
Just because mars has ice on it at the polar caps, which by the way is not alot, does not mean life could be sustained. There could be microscopic bacteria fossiled from long ago, but we know there is no intelligent life currently living there, it's a dust rock floating in space.
Here's a picture of the face on mars from what we now know it to look like.

I think it is just another disclaimer as we wre not to belive in posibilities of another life posibilities.
Rykster
Feb 21 2006, 05:46 AM
There is life out there, and some of it may be intelligent. But it is not on Mars.
artymoon
Feb 21 2006, 05:50 AM
It is possible Mars did have life at one point. But seeing its a dust bowl, I would imagine any evidence is far underground.
Orion437
Feb 21 2006, 12:19 PM
Strange looking thing...
xstortionist
Feb 21 2006, 02:24 PM
did anyone notice that bulldozer by the mound of dirt on that picture? I smell a COVER UP!!!
Lilly
Feb 21 2006, 02:25 PM
I'm throwing in my lot with BurnSide on this one. Let's "face it"...it's a mesa!
Mostar
Feb 25 2006, 11:50 AM
Some people badly want to belive in faces and pyramids on mars.
hazzard
Feb 25 2006, 12:48 PM
QUOTE(Lilly @ Feb 21 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]1071761[/snapback]
I'm throwing in my lot with BurnSide on this one. Let's "face it"...it's a mesa!
I agree,nothing to see here,move along.
Like Yel said,its a classic case of pareidolia and it explains why some people see a face or a building in a photograph of the Cydonia region of Mars.
http://www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html
CryptoRay
Feb 26 2006, 08:25 PM
I don't think it's just because of the shadows or the angle that the picture was taken that we see a face. Here is the "mountain" from different angles, but you can clearly see the face in both of the pictures.

I just noticed something, what is that dark circle thing on the top left of this picture?
aquatus1
Feb 26 2006, 08:42 PM
Isn't that top red picture a clip from the CG fly-by what's-his-face commissioned to put in his tape?
I can't think of any satellite that we have that could take a roundabout shot like that one is a part of. It would have to be flying at low airplane height, not in orbit.
hazzard
Feb 26 2006, 08:49 PM
Here is a good site explaining "the face" and debunking Hoaglands nonsense.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/face.htmlHighest-Resolution View of "Face on Mars"
MGS MOC Release No. MOC2-283, 24 May 2001
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/extend...face/index.htmlAnd another high res pic.
http://barsoom.msss.com/mars_images/moc/4_...ease/index.html
Rykster
Feb 26 2006, 10:06 PM
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 26 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]1080653[/snapback]
what is that dark circle thing on the top left of this picture?
Um, a crater?
Tone
Feb 27 2006, 07:13 PM
QUOTE(joc @ Feb 20 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1070529[/snapback]
Since I can't see Burnsides image, and I just posted this same pic only a few days ago...I post it again here:

That's awesome.
Raptor
Feb 27 2006, 07:20 PM
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 26 2006, 08:25 PM) [snapback]1080653[/snapback]
I just noticed something, what is that dark circle thing on the top left of this picture?
Most likely a crater, possibly a region of elevated ground; personally I would stop worrying about seeing signs in everything unless you saw something like this:
CryptoRay
Feb 27 2006, 07:43 PM
QUOTE(T-Nemesis @ Feb 27 2006, 02:20 PM) [snapback]1082191[/snapback]
Most likely a crater, possibly a region of elevated ground; personally I would stop worrying about seeing signs in everything unless you saw something like this:

Wow, that is the best evidence I've ever seen of "intelligent" life on Mars!
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