Do we really know the true past of the great Egyptian Civilization? Can we really be certain there wasn't another force? There are some very mysterious facts about our so called one of a kind predecessors. (This information is quoted from a debate last year, this part said in the exact words of Falco Rex, who by the way did an amazing job debating his side of the debate, and had an amazing 35 point win)
1.The height of the Pyramids apex is 5,812.98 inches and each side is 9,131 inches rom corner to corner. If the circumference of the pyramid is divided by twice it's height the result is 3.14159, which just happens to be Pi. Pi is demonstrated many times throughout the Pyramid, and yet we know that it wasn't discovered until later by the Greeks..
2.As stated earlier each the Pyramids four sides are 9,131 inches for a total of 36,524 inches. 365.24 days just happens to be the exact length of the solar year.
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
4.The Great Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earths' land mass. That is, its' East-West axis corresponds to the longest land parralel across the Earth, passing through Africa, Asia, and America. Similarly, the longest land Meridian, Asia, Africa, Europe, and Antarctica, also passes right through the Pyramid. The odds of the Pyramid being built in this exact spot are 1 in 3 billion.
So it seems our Egyptian friends would have to know a mathematical concept they didn't have, the exact length of the year, the exact curvature of an Earth no one had yet mapped out accurately, and the exact center of the Earths' land-mass including continents they didn't know existed. Not only that they had to incorporate all this knowledge into construction of one monument.
I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check.
If you would like to see the rest of the debate just click this http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=15907
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Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 13 2005, 08:44 PM)
Do we really know the true past of the great Egyptian Civilization? Can we really be certain there wasn't another force? There are some very mysterious facts about our so called one of a kind predecessors. (This information is quoted from a debate last year, this part said in the exact words of Falco Rex, who by the way did an amazing job debating his side of the debate, and had an amazing 35 point win)
1.The height of the Pyramids apex is 5,812.98 inches and each side is 9,131 inches rom corner to corner. If the circumference of the pyramid is divided by twice it's height the result is 3.14159, which just happens to be Pi. Pi is demonstrated many times throughout the Pyramid, and yet we know that it wasn't discovered until later by the Greeks..
2.As stated earlier each the Pyramids four sides are 9,131 inches for a total of 36,524 inches. 365.24 days just happens to be the exact length of the solar year.
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
4.The Great Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earths' land mass. That is, its' East-West axis corresponds to the longest land parralel across the Earth, passing through Africa, Asia, and America. Similarly, the longest land Meridian, Asia, Africa, Europe, and Antarctica, also passes right through the Pyramid. The odds of the Pyramid being built in this exact spot are 1 in 3 billion.
So it seems our Egyptian friends would have to know a mathematical concept they didn't have, the exact length of the year, the exact curvature of an Earth no one had yet mapped out accurately, and the exact center of the Earths' land-mass including continents they didn't know existed. Not only that they had to incorporate all this knowledge into construction of one monument.
I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check.
If you would like to see the rest of the debate just click this http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=15907
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1.The height of the Pyramids apex is 5,812.98 inches and each side is 9,131 inches rom corner to corner. If the circumference of the pyramid is divided by twice it's height the result is 3.14159, which just happens to be Pi. Pi is demonstrated many times throughout the Pyramid, and yet we know that it wasn't discovered until later by the Greeks..
2.As stated earlier each the Pyramids four sides are 9,131 inches for a total of 36,524 inches. 365.24 days just happens to be the exact length of the solar year.
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
4.The Great Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earths' land mass. That is, its' East-West axis corresponds to the longest land parralel across the Earth, passing through Africa, Asia, and America. Similarly, the longest land Meridian, Asia, Africa, Europe, and Antarctica, also passes right through the Pyramid. The odds of the Pyramid being built in this exact spot are 1 in 3 billion.
So it seems our Egyptian friends would have to know a mathematical concept they didn't have, the exact length of the year, the exact curvature of an Earth no one had yet mapped out accurately, and the exact center of the Earths' land-mass including continents they didn't know existed. Not only that they had to incorporate all this knowledge into construction of one monument.
I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check.
If you would like to see the rest of the debate just click this http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=15907
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Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
Yes mankind IS pretty intelligent. That is present tense. We know they were not even a bit close to as intelligent as we are now. how could they have known all of those things, like the amount of days in a year, the exact center of the earth's land mass(when there were countries they didnt even know existed yet) and how could they have know what pi is and the other things pointed out. And then also how come the pyramids built after these in other areas were not nearly as perfect as the egyptian ones, almost as if the alien presence may have left and mankind was just going off of memory from what the aliens told them, or maybe the egyptians just didnt tell anyone else?
Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
Yes mankind IS pretty intelligent. That is present tense. We know they were not even a bit close to as intelligent as we are now. how could they have known all of those things, like the amount of days in a year, the exact center of the earth's land mass(when there were countries they didnt even know existed yet) and how could they have know what pi is and the other things pointed out. And then also how come the pyramids built after these in other areas were not nearly as perfect as the egyptian ones, almost as if the alien presence may have left and mankind was just going off of memory from what the aliens told them, or maybe the egyptians just didnt tell anyone else?
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Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
Yes mankind IS pretty intelligent. That is present tense. We know they were not even a bit close to as intelligent as we are now. how could they have known all of those things, like the amount of days in a year, the exact center of the earth's land mass(when there were countries they didnt even know existed yet) and how could they have know what pi is and the other things pointed out. And then also how come the pyramids built after these in other areas were not nearly as perfect as the egyptian ones, almost as if the alien presence may have left and mankind was just going off of memory from what the aliens told them, or maybe the egyptians just didnt tell anyone else?
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Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
Yes mankind IS pretty intelligent. That is present tense. We know they were not even a bit close to as intelligent as we are now. how could they have known all of those things, like the amount of days in a year, the exact center of the earth's land mass(when there were countries they didnt even know existed yet) and how could they have know what pi is and the other things pointed out. And then also how come the pyramids built after these in other areas were not nearly as perfect as the egyptian ones, almost as if the alien presence may have left and mankind was just going off of memory from what the aliens told them, or maybe the egyptians just didnt tell anyone else?
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i would think only newbies would want to post in this thread from now on
otherwise someone's bound to start shouting (probably me)
have fun guys
There have been several television programs documenting how the Egyptians could have made their pyramids without the use of cranes etc.
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Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
Yes mankind IS pretty intelligent. That is present tense. We know they were not even a bit close to as intelligent as we are now. how could they have known all of those things, like the amount of days in a year, the exact center of the earth's land mass(when there were countries they didnt even know existed yet) and how could they have know what pi is and the other things pointed out.
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Mankind is pretty intelligent. Even back then. They didn't need assistance.
Yes mankind IS pretty intelligent. That is present tense. We know they were not even a bit close to as intelligent as we are now. how could they have known all of those things, like the amount of days in a year, the exact center of the earth's land mass(when there were countries they didnt even know existed yet) and how could they have know what pi is and the other things pointed out.
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There is no reason whatsoever to suppose human were less intelligent 5,000 years ago than they are today.
And if the Egyptians couldn't have known these things, how come we can? Someone had to work them out. Why not the Egyptians?
The egyptians made their measurements in cubits (there were two cubits, the common cubit and the royal cubit), not in inches.
For what concerns the pyramid being at the center of the earth's land mass it's a rather ridicolous statement too, since sea level has much varied in the course of time.
For what concerns the pyramid being at the center of the earth's land mass it's a rather ridicolous statement too, since sea level has much varied in the course of time.
pi is the only fact in all of this. Since pi is a ratio, so that it doesn't depend on the measurement unit used. However, I dont think there is a need of alien civilization to prove egyptians might have discovered the value of pi. The amount of days in a year was well known even by prehistoric civilizations, and it doesn't require high technology: just look out of the window and count how many times in a year the sun sets.
the masons didnt need any help,besides why would aliens help build a pyramid?
Do you really think that?? Come on... Why "must" we have the aliens aid us to do something, that is a master piece... Mankind have done many great deeds (just think about the other seven wonders of the world!)... Or has it been all done with the help of aliens?? If that would proven to be right, I would choose Predator has my architect!! 
dont think mankind needed assistence, just watch national treasure, when it gets at the end, elevators and sh** has been around for looooooong ass time
my only question is how did the egyptians move 300 ton stones?
the biggest, most powerful crane in the world can only move 200 tons.
even so, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to make the pyramids today with modern technology and with such mathematical precision.
the biggest, most powerful crane in the world can only move 200 tons.
even so, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to make the pyramids today with modern technology and with such mathematical precision.
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ May 14 2005, 08:35 PM)
my only question is how did the egyptians move 300 ton stones?
the biggest, most powerful crane in the world can only move 200 tons.
even so, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to make the pyramids today with modern technology and with such mathematical precision.
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the biggest, most powerful crane in the world can only move 200 tons.
even so, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to make the pyramids today with modern technology and with such mathematical precision.
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well this is where if you are a bible man, cause in egypt, god showd them how to make a pillar for all to remember and everyone to marvel at the pyramids, cause its supposively it marks the center of the world, it still unexplained, basically with the help of GOD the made the pyramids
Hundreds of men pulled these blocks of stone. Thank the BBC.
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QUOTE(Amalgamut @ May 14 2005, 08:35 PM)
my only question is how did the egyptians move 300 ton stones?
the biggest, most powerful crane in the world can only move 200 tons.
even so, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to make the pyramids today with modern technology and with such mathematical precision.
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the biggest, most powerful crane in the world can only move 200 tons.
even so, it would be very difficult, if not impossible to make the pyramids today with modern technology and with such mathematical precision.
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well this is where if you are a bible man, cause in egypt, god showd them how to make a pillar for all to remember and everyone to marvel at the pyramids, cause its supposively it marks the center of the world, it still unexplained, basically with the help of GOD the made the pyramids
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the average weight of the blocks in the great pyramid is 2.5 tonnes
the largest block in the great pyramid weighs 70 tonnes
and modern technology has cranes that can lift up to 2000 tonnes
sems the only contribution God makes in this case is to get ALL the facts wrong
you'll also only find religious sites claiming its the centre of the earth
it isn't.
you know your geography is pretty shody if you don't know what the equator is
the mystery isn't how they were built. there are pictures on tombs showing them being built by egyptians.
the mystery is why
http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/walkingmain.mpg
Since this post was started with information from a debate I participated in I'd like to comment before my reputation for being skeptical is in shambles.. 
Back when I did this you didn't choose the subject or the side you were debating..The Debate Organizer did that for you..
I had fun with this and I was glad to walk away with a win, but that doesn't mean I now believe Aliens built the Pyramids; I just made the best argument I could with what I could find..
Although there were many amazing things about the Great Pyramid that doesn't necessarily mean I think the Egyptians had to have outside help in their construction..
Back when I did this you didn't choose the subject or the side you were debating..The Debate Organizer did that for you..
I had fun with this and I was glad to walk away with a win, but that doesn't mean I now believe Aliens built the Pyramids; I just made the best argument I could with what I could find..
Although there were many amazing things about the Great Pyramid that doesn't necessarily mean I think the Egyptians had to have outside help in their construction..
The real questions are why and when. Besides, no egyptian text or relief details the construction techniques of IV dinasties pyramids. The only reliefs found in tombs detail the transportation of obelisks and large statues, but the construction of a pyramid requires a lot more skills, mainly for what concerns organization and engineering. The only account on the building of pyramids comes from Erodotus, quoted by Pliny the elder and claiming they were built with "short woods" (maybe levers?) although Erodotus can't be considered a reliable source. The real problem for what concerns the building of pyramids doesn't lie in the lifting of stones, but in the engineering work requested by such structures, including complex geometrical and physical skills. Appearently, the IV dinasty engineers and builders were far more skilled than those involved in the building of later pyramids, of which very few still remains.
QUOTE(Falco Rex @ May 15 2005, 01:54 PM)
Since this post was started with information from a debate I participated in I'd like to comment before my reputation for being skeptical is in shambles..
Back when I did this you didn't choose the subject or the side you were debating..The Debate Organizer did that for you..
I had fun with this and I was glad to walk away with a win, but that doesn't mean I now believe Aliens built the Pyramids; I just made the best argument I could with what I could find..
Although there were many amazing things about the Great Pyramid that doesn't necessarily mean I think the Egyptians had to have outside help in their construction..
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Back when I did this you didn't choose the subject or the side you were debating..The Debate Organizer did that for you..
I had fun with this and I was glad to walk away with a win, but that doesn't mean I now believe Aliens built the Pyramids; I just made the best argument I could with what I could find..
Although there were many amazing things about the Great Pyramid that doesn't necessarily mean I think the Egyptians had to have outside help in their construction..
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Debate Organizer
we have debate organisers now ??
WOW
where do i sign up
hehe
QUOTE(marduk @ May 15 2005, 04:20 AM)
the average weight of the blocks in the great pyramid is 2.5 tonnes
the largest block in the great pyramid weighs 70 tonnes
and modern technology has cranes that can lift up to 2000 tonnes
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are you sure? 2000 tons? thats 4 million pounds.
QUOTE(HekticMind @ May 15 2005, 10:35 AM)
dont think mankind needed assistence, just watch national treasure, when it gets at the end, elevators and sh** has been around for looooooong ass time
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woww...now heres a man that know something......
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ May 15 2005, 05:22 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 15 2005, 04:20 AM)
the average weight of the blocks in the great pyramid is 2.5 tonnes
the largest block in the great pyramid weighs 70 tonnes
and modern technology has cranes that can lift up to 2000 tonnes
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are you sure? 2000 tons? thats 4 million pounds.
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http://www.mglobal.com/news/hpndetails.cfm?id=32675
yes i'm 100% sure
but heres the thing
you hear this crane crap mentioned only in relation to the largest blocks in existence
as in, if we couldn't do it they couldn't
but they didn't have cranes did they
so wether we have cranes that can lift 100 tonnes 2000 tonnes or even 1,000,000 tonnes its hardly relevant
as in they did do it because we can see that
its a bit like saying that the ancients couldn't have done it because all the evidence we have says they did.
and the only evidence we have is of quarried rock that has been cut for a reason with obvious primitive (copper) techniques and then moved to a location thats factual.
so its also like saying that because we couldn't figure it out they couldn't have
you really think thats a safe assumption ?
I know I don't
you all have forggotten to mention how the four sides of the pyramid came to be the exact curvature of the earth, anybody got an idea to explain that, for even we most likey could not achieve such a feet on such a massive structure, and since the egyptians were using carving tools, how could they have possibly done this, though im not doubting their skill of craftsmanship, only their ability to measure the earth's EXACT curvature (when they werent even aware of how big it was) although i understand what you all mean by the intelligence, but if we were as intelligent back then as we are now than how come they were even bothering with chisels, slave labor, the materials, and other things of which we would not use to day for such a structure
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 15 2005, 10:35 PM)
you all have forggotten to mention how the four sides of the pyramid came to be the exact curvature of the earth, anybody got an idea to explain that, for even we most likey could not achieve such a feet on such a massive structure, and since the egyptians were using carving tools, how could they have possibly done this, though im not doubting their skill of craftsmanship, only their ability to measure the earth's EXACT curvature (when they werent even aware of how big it was) although i understand what you all mean by the intelligence, but if we were as intelligent back then as we are now than how come they were even bothering with chisels, slave labor, the materials, and other things of which we would not use to day for such a structure
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Everyone knows that the greeks were a very advanced culture.
one thing thats not so well known is that they guarded their knowledge
if you wanted to be educated in greece it cost a lot of money or connections
the reason they did this is because the greeks realised very early on that knowledge is power. In other words
if other cultures knew what they knew about everything then the other cultures would be equal to them
Thats a scary thought when you're the most important nation on earth
so its possible for an individual to have an i q of 180 and not know how to wire a plug
because that sort of thing has to be taught
and if nobody's teaching
nobody learns
if you want to check if this is happening even today you only need go to your local government office and ask them if they'll show you their secret files
Although I don't think aliens had anything to do with the pyramids construction, would anyone like to tell me how they managed to get blocks weighing 70 tons up to a height of nearly 500 ft, I doubt think they did it the way they showed on a BBC programme, called Pyramid, in which they used a ramp because this would have needed to be miles long and would have probably taken longer to build than the pyramid itself.
QUOTE(Alfaman @ May 16 2005, 03:00 PM)
Although I don't think aliens had anything to do with the pyramids construction, would anyone like to tell me how they managed to get blocks weighing 70 tons up to a height of nearly 500 ft, I doubt think they did it the way they showed on a BBC programme, called Pyramid, in which they used a ramp because this would have needed to be miles long and would have probably taken longer to build than the pyramid itself.
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you all have forggotten to mention how the four sides of the pyramid came to be the exact curvature of the earth, anybody got an idea to explain that, for even we most likey could not achieve such a feet on such a massive structure, and since the egyptians were using carving tools, how could they have possibly done this, though im not doubting their skill of craftsmanship, only their ability to measure the earth's EXACT curvature (when they werent even aware of how big it was) although i understand what you all mean by the intelligence, but if we were as intelligent back then as we are now than how come they were even bothering with chisels, slave labor, the materials, and other things of which we would not use to day for such a structure
I'm not entirely sure what you are referring to with the four sides and the curvature. Could you elaborate on that? It sound like nothing more than the magic of numbers.
In regards to intelligence, don't mistake it with knowledge. We know a great deal more than the ancient egyptians, but we are about equal in intelligence because we make the most out of the knowledge that we have. They used copper chisels because that was the hardest metal they had. They used stone because it was the cheapest and most easily workable. They didn't use slaves, because back then, the pharoah was god, and if god told you to do something, you did it; you didn't need to be a slave. In fact, pyramids workers were taken care of pretty well.
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Although I don't think aliens had anything to do with the pyramids construction, would anyone like to tell me how they managed to get blocks weighing 70 tons up to a height of nearly 500 ft, I doubt think they did it the way they showed on a BBC programme, called Pyramid, in which they used a ramp because this would have needed to be miles long and would have probably taken longer to build than the pyramid itself.
Ramps don't necessarily have to be straight. They could have simply wound up the pyramid itself, thus negating the need for massive amounts of material. And, while none of the blocks in the pyramid were anywhere near 70 tons (I believe the two lintels above the King's Chamber, are the biggest, at 40 tons each), it is still not at all incoceivale for a group of experienced movers to use leverage to their advantage to move such massive loads. The trick is to stop thinking of movement as a brute force 'pick it up and haul it off" scenario. Technique is what is needed, not brute force.
this detail in my begginning post, if u read it, perfectly describes what i mean by the curvature
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
nobody has mentioned this little detail either
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 16 2005, 07:16 PM)
nobody has mentioned this little detail either
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
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"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
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The egyptians have built pyramids that have begun to collapse under their own weight. Some of the older step pyramids show some of these flaws. Also the egyptians mining/construction techniques aren't as flawless as you like to believe. I have read that the shape of the sphinx's body is the way it is due to a fracture in the stone that they had to work around. Like any civilization they learned from their mistakes and used this learning to create their masterpiece, the great pyramid.
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 13 2005, 03:44 PM)
Do we really know the true past of the great Egyptian Civilization? Can we really be certain there wasn't another force? There are some very mysterious facts about our so called one of a kind predecessors. (This information is quoted from a debate last year, this part said in the exact words of Falco Rex, who by the way did an amazing job debating his side of the debate, and had an amazing 35 point win)
1.The height of the Pyramids apex is 5,812.98 inches and each side is 9,131 inches rom corner to corner. If the circumference of the pyramid is divided by twice it's height the result is 3.14159, which just happens to be Pi. Pi is demonstrated many times throughout the Pyramid, and yet we know that it wasn't discovered until later by the Greeks..
2.As stated earlier each the Pyramids four sides are 9,131 inches for a total of 36,524 inches. 365.24 days just happens to be the exact length of the solar year.
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
4.The Great Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earths' land mass. That is, its' East-West axis corresponds to the longest land parralel across the Earth, passing through Africa, Asia, and America. Similarly, the longest land Meridian, Asia, Africa, Europe, and Antarctica, also passes right through the Pyramid. The odds of the Pyramid being built in this exact spot are 1 in 3 billion.
So it seems our Egyptian friends would have to know a mathematical concept they didn't have, the exact length of the year, the exact curvature of an Earth no one had yet mapped out accurately, and the exact center of the Earths' land-mass including continents they didn't know existed. Not only that they had to incorporate all this knowledge into construction of one monument.
I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check.
If you would like to see the rest of the debate just click this http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=15907
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1.The height of the Pyramids apex is 5,812.98 inches and each side is 9,131 inches rom corner to corner. If the circumference of the pyramid is divided by twice it's height the result is 3.14159, which just happens to be Pi. Pi is demonstrated many times throughout the Pyramid, and yet we know that it wasn't discovered until later by the Greeks..
2.As stated earlier each the Pyramids four sides are 9,131 inches for a total of 36,524 inches. 365.24 days just happens to be the exact length of the solar year.
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
4.The Great Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earths' land mass. That is, its' East-West axis corresponds to the longest land parralel across the Earth, passing through Africa, Asia, and America. Similarly, the longest land Meridian, Asia, Africa, Europe, and Antarctica, also passes right through the Pyramid. The odds of the Pyramid being built in this exact spot are 1 in 3 billion.
So it seems our Egyptian friends would have to know a mathematical concept they didn't have, the exact length of the year, the exact curvature of an Earth no one had yet mapped out accurately, and the exact center of the Earths' land-mass including continents they didn't know existed. Not only that they had to incorporate all this knowledge into construction of one monument.
I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check.
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there has to be a reason for the perfect a linement of the pyraminds i really belive if you look at the relief drawings you will see the answer why do they not look as we do! i have collected papryus for years and they look as if they are people from another planet also, there are relief that show what look like space ships, i belive these people can from mars,when the planet died, how eles could they build so perfect and not even have the knowledge that we have today!!!! 
Picasso drew weird people. I don't see any thee eyed people playing violin wandering the streets. People draw superman I don't see anyone flying around. Post these papyrus. Let us be the judge.
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 17 2005, 01:16 AM)
nobody has mentioned this little detail either
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
This is an interesting point, and this is also the reason for the sides of the pyramid being concave. Actually, from a technical viewpoint, the pyramid is not a pyramid at all, but a vault or dome. (tholos would be a better term, or even pseudo-vault). This means that the pyramid would likely stand even if it were hollow. This is the reason why the whole structure, and, above all, the underground chambers, haven't collapsed yet, although bearing a weight of several tens of thousands tons. The weight is consequently transferred to the base of the pyramid, which lies on solid rock, preserving the structure from collapsing under its own weight. although the shape might be more similar to that of later egyptian pyramids (Hawara, Abu Sir), the pyramids of Ghizah (together with the IV dinasty pyramids in Dashur) have more to share, for what concerns engineering, with a dome.
hasnt this thread been done?? 
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 17 2005, 01:51 PM)
hasnt this thread been done??
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Only a million times.
Martians....case closed...Why our fantasy with Mars??? Our culture maybe came form there....Any thoughts?
QUOTE(Steeler Mania @ May 17 2005, 11:45 PM)
Martians....case closed...Why our fantasy with Mars??? Our culture maybe came form there....Any thoughts?
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There appears to be a Mars fantasy running in this thread
but thats all it is.
a fantasy
good ol' mars
u either love it or
hate it
u choose
lol 
u either love it or
hate it
u choose
lol
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 17 2005, 01:13 AM)
this detail in my begginning post, if u read it, perfectly describes what i mean by the curvature
3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
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3.All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly concave.This effect which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial measurements. As measured by todays laser instruments, all these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the Earth.
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The sides of the pyramids are not the original sides. The pyramids was originally covered with large slabs, giving it a more polished surface. How could any measurement concerning curvature be made when the original surface has been missing for centuries? At most, one might extrapolate an average. Again, magic of numbers. You can make them say anything.
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 17 2005, 01:16 AM)
nobody has mentioned this little detail either
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
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"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
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Why would they need mining equipment? The mountain jutted out above the ground. It was actually directly worked on, cut falt so that it would make a foundation for the pyramid. No diggin involved.
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ May 18 2005, 02:37 PM)
QUOTE(cleansolution @ May 17 2005, 01:16 AM)
nobody has mentioned this little detail either
"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
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"I'd also like to point out that the Pyramid would have collapsed under it's own weight if it were'nt for the fact that a small Granite mountan exists right under it. How did they know it was there? They certainly didn't have advanced mining equipment to check."
The egyptians, although highly intelligent, could not have truly known this based on their own means of mining back then, which once again leads to my point, how did they know if they could not have done it themselves
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Why would they need mining equipment? The mountain jutted out above the ground. It was actually directly worked on, cut falt so that it would make a foundation for the pyramid. No diggin involved.
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and i thought newbie bashing was prohibited
hey noobs are fair game
sumtimes
lol
sumtimes
lol
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 18 2005, 03:27 PM)
hey noobs are fair game
sumtimes
lol
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sumtimes
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ah but clean solution is a rare thing
a newbie with a sense of honour
if a little misinformed
But thats par for the course isn't it
is it in the rules that every newbie must post a thread with aliens in the title
it seems to happen most of the time don't it
probs because that whats got them interested in paranormal stuff
as for me, if u and anyone else didnt work it out
then god help us all
lol
as for me, if u and anyone else didnt work it out
then god help us all
lol
The aliens are behind everything!
Its right there in all the ancient texts.
The great pyramid was not engineered by humans. That's impossible!
The Sumerians metalurical science was so far advanced, its impossible that they developed it without alien intervention!
Its right there in all the ancient texts.
The great pyramid was not engineered by humans. That's impossible!
The Sumerians metalurical science was so far advanced, its impossible that they developed it without alien intervention!
i know 
lol
lol
QUOTE(DJ_Quinn @ May 18 2005, 03:51 PM)
The aliens are behind everything!
Its right there in all the ancient texts.
The great pyramid was not engineered by humans. That's impossible!
The Sumerians metalurical science was so far advanced, its impossible that they developed it without alien intervention!
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Its right there in all the ancient texts.
The great pyramid was not engineered by humans. That's impossible!
The Sumerians metalurical science was so far advanced, its impossible that they developed it without alien intervention!
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you're supposed to add "
" when you're joking or being sarcasticotherwise everyone will think you're an idiot who actually believes all that rubbish
I knew my post would get you lads going
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