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marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 18 2005, 03:47 PM)
back on topic, will we eva know what was on the original sphinx face? hmm.gif
it was obviously recarved wasnt it? huh.gif  dontgetit.gif
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The Roswell Man
actually rather than an anlantian connection
culd there be an sumerian connection possibly??? huh.gif dontgetit.gif
debraregypt
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 18 2005, 02:47 PM)
back on topic, will we eva know what was on the original sphinx face? hmm.gif
it was obviously recarved wasnt it? huh.gif  dontgetit.gif
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I think it was.... one of my reasons is because the face is so much smaller than the rest of the body.... when you see it there in Egypt it is so very apparent!... they had it/sphinx blocked off when I was there but I could absolutly get a great view.

Egyptain art is very proportionate!... but I will say the body is very elongated... but wouldn't look that way if the head was larger.... somehow I think that's a bit of an illusion regarding the body....

and..... some of the older Egyptian pictures (hieroglyphs) seem to denote lion heads..... the lion was a symbol of time.... lions were protectors too... see them on the sides of thrones...

Deb
marduk
QUOTE(debraregypt @ May 18 2005, 04:03 PM)
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 18 2005, 02:47 PM)
back on topic, will we eva know what was on the original sphinx face? hmm.gif
it was obviously recarved wasnt it? huh.gif  dontgetit.gif
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I think it was.... one of my reasons is because the face is so much smaller than the rest of the body.... when you see it there in Egypt it is so very apparent!... they had it/sphinx blocked off when I was there but I could absolutly get a great view.

Egyptain art is very proportionate!... but I will say the body is very elongated... but wouldn't look that way if the head was larger.... somehow I think that's a bit of an illusion regarding the body....

and..... some of the older Egyptian pictures (hieroglyphs) seem to denote lion heads..... the lion was a symbol of time.... lions were protectors too... see them on the sides of thrones...

Deb
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Protectors ?
kind of
they were actually guardians of knowledge in a symbolic sense

Roswell are you seriously asking this question
"actually rather than an anlantian connection
culd there be an sumerian connection possibly??? "
do you actually want an answer or are you deliberatly winding me up
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The Roswell Man
a bit of both
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marduk
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 18 2005, 04:22 PM)
a bit of both
lol grin2.gif  laugh.gif
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it may take several weeks for me to present my evidence
theres quite a lot of it
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The Roswell Man
i dont mind waiting.... laugh.gif
couple of things
no aliens
no l word
and esp. no time machines
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debraregypt
QUOTE(marduk @ May 18 2005, 03:24 PM)
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ May 18 2005, 04:22 PM)
a bit of both
lol grin2.gif  laugh.gif
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it may take several weeks for me to present my evidence
theres quite a lot of it
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Love to see whatcha got there....

Yes, and protectors/guards... same thing to me....

Deb
greattenchim
i think propably their hidden passages in sphinx! think they scan the thing with ground radar sonar or whatever to see if they find any passages! they need to do the same to the great pryamid!
marduk
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QUOTE(greattenchim @ May 27 2005, 04:09 PM)
i think propably their hidden passages in sphinx! think they scan the thing with ground radar sonar or whatever to see if they find any passages! they need to do the same to the great pryamid!
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Myabe if you knew just how Ground Penetrating Radar worked you wouldn't ask that question
I can see the operator now
"theres an obvious man made feature here, everywhere actually "
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Ancient World Wonders
I personally believe there is something underneath the right paw of the Sphinx, a small deposit of ancient relics or writings that may lead to a further understanding of our ancient past. Radar sonar located a small chamber deep underground and no one knows why it is there or if it leads to anywhere else. However, a small square tunnel found several years ago starts from the Great Pyramid and leads to the Sphinx. They haven't yet excavated all the debris yet. Very exciting!
LucidElement
Definilty a Lions Head, i dont think their is any controversy on that... but i never knew it was RED??? is that true?? maybe some old blood spladdered down hehe..
Ancient World Wonders
The only red paint on the Sphinx is from the decoation around the eyes. The Egyptians prided themselves on their appearance, especially at functions, and often decorated their faces and around their eyes, to enhance their emphasises, as the eye is the window to the soul. The Sphinx face is thought to be that of a lion and then recarved to be that of perhaps a Pharaoh, but no one knows for sure.
aquatus1
I keep hearing about this small chamber allegedly found under the right paw, however I have yet to see a single credible source confirming its existance.
Marth
as for the sphinx not looking like a lion that can be explained by looking at hieroglyphs. None of the lion pictures look lions. Simply because there were no lions in Egypt, at least to my understanding. Many of the stories of lions were from outside egypt. I have heard this although I'm way to damn lazy to go check my facts. *yawns*
marduk
QUOTE(MarthMadness54 @ Jun 4 2005, 04:38 PM)
as for the sphinx not looking like a lion that can be explained by looking at hieroglyphs. None of the lion pictures look lions. Simply because there were no lions in Egypt, at least to my understanding. Many of the stories of lions were from outside egypt. I have heard this although I'm way to damn lazy to go check my facts. *yawns*
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http://www.egyptologyonline.com/decoder.htm for lion hieroglyphs
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/lions.htm the lions of egypt
Marth
awesome i was half right lol
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 4 2005, 10:06 AM)
I keep hearing about this small chamber allegedly found under the right paw, however I have yet to see a single credible source confirming its existance.
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I remember watching a live broadcast several years ago hosted by Maury Povich and it showed radar sonar from underneath the right paw. There is a chamber there, they just don't know what's in it. The Egyptian govt won't allow them to excavate for fear of destroying the Sphinx. Edgar Cayce also predicted this chamber called "The Hall of Records" holds the ancient writings of Atlantis.

http://www.catchpenny.org/chamber.html
aquatus1
Let's not be so quick to call that sonar print a chamber. All the Japanese team was able to do was confirm that there is some sort of hollow there. It might be a (very) small chamber, but it is far more likely that it is a natural fissure, common to that area, and even with precedence, as the infamous tunnel at the back of the Sphynx turned out to be nothing more than this.

In regards to Cayce, let's not forget his insistence that the chamber would be found in a few years, not a few decades, and that rumors of a hidden chamber under the Sphynx have been around since Pliny wrote Natural History.

Thank you for the link. I have saved it as a resource. I haven't been able to unearth the original report yet, but I will continue to look for it. At least, I would like to find the estimated dimensiuons of this hollow.
Ancient World Wonders
So the small tunnel turned out to be nothing? It lead to no-where? Nothing but a fissure or air passage? Boy, I've been outta the loop on Egypt finds for a while. I need to beef up on the new finds and failures. Thanks for the up-date. That's go in the vault. Can anyone else confirm this? I'll regret this, but Marduk...what's your take?
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 4 2005, 08:21 PM)
So the small tunnel turned out to be nothing?  It lead to no-where?  Nothing but a fissure or air passage? Boy, I've been outta the loop on Egypt finds for a while.  I need to beef up on the new finds and failures.  Thanks for the up-date.  That's go in the vault.  Can anyone else confirm this?  I'll regret this, but Marduk...what's your take?
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Your source Edgar cayce also predicted that atlantis would be discovered. In the 60s
The story that the egyptian authjorities were worried that digging would damage the sphinx is rubbish.
they're just not in the habit of letting people dig where they like with just one untested ground radar scan as evidence.
Lots of teams have used ground penetrating radar in that area and didn't find anything.
ground penetrating radar iirc is able to penetrate 30 feet of loose soil in optimum conditions
it doesn't work at all on bedrock like which the sphinx is built on.

However, Lions in the ancient world were regarded as guardians of great knowledge. although that probably sounds like it backs up the possibility of a secret chamber, it is far more likely to have originated the myth in the first place.
one other slightly more obvious thing that should strike your common sense. What secret knowledge exactly are you expecting to find. We know pretty much all the technical knowledge that the egyptians had. Theres no evidence of superior technology anywhere else in egypt so if the egyptians buried something there then why didn't they use it themselves. If you're expecting a start trek type computer core or something then you just have a vivid imagination.
I would of course like it to be true. But there isn't much chance of it is there no.gif no.gif no.gif
aquatus1
Except for the Atlanteans, of course.


*tongue firmly in cheek*
marduk
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 4 2005, 09:29 PM)
Except for the Atlanteans, of course.


*tongue firmly in cheek*
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you forgot the annunaki
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aquatus1
No, no, Annunaki was an Atlantean too. The proof is in the hidden chamber.
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(marduk @ Jun 4 2005, 03:51 PM)
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 4 2005, 08:21 PM)
So the small tunnel turned out to be nothing?  It lead to no-where?  Nothing but a fissure or air passage? Boy, I've been outta the loop on Egypt finds for a while.  I need to beef up on the new finds and failures.  Thanks for the up-date.  That's go in the vault.  Can anyone else confirm this?  I'll regret this, but Marduk...what's your take?
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Your source Edgar cayce also predicted that atlantis would be discovered. In the 60s
The story that the egyptian authjorities were worried that digging would damage the sphinx is rubbish.
they're just not in the habit of letting people dig where they like with just one untested ground radar scan as evidence.
Lots of teams have used ground penetrating radar in that area and didn't find anything.
ground penetrating radar iirc is able to penetrate 30 feet of loose soil in optimum conditions
it doesn't work at all on bedrock like which the sphinx is built on.

However, Lions in the ancient world were regarded as guardians of great knowledge. although that probably sounds like it backs up the possibility of a secret chamber, it is far more likely to have originated the myth in the first place.
one other slightly more obvious thing that should strike your common sense. What secret knowledge exactly are you expecting to find. We know pretty much all the technical knowledge that the egyptians had. Theres no evidence of superior technology anywhere else in egypt so if the egyptians buried something there then why didn't they use it themselves. If you're expecting a start trek type computer core or something then you just have a vivid imagination.
I would of course like it to be true. But there isn't much chance of it is there no.gif no.gif no.gif
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According to E.C. a portion of Atantis would be discovered in 1967-68 and in 1968 a long stone road or wall was discovered off the Bimini channel. The stones are too unified to be natural. No one can explain them, and I believe firmly E.C. was right. I believe there is a lost civilization to be found out there. And nothing you can say, Marduk, will change my mind. But I do not follow my faith blindly like religion, rather I've taken into all the facts before me and this is the conclusion I have set.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 4 2005, 10:51 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Jun 4 2005, 03:51 PM)
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 4 2005, 08:21 PM)
So the small tunnel turned out to be nothing?  It lead to no-where?  Nothing but a fissure or air passage? Boy, I've been outta the loop on Egypt finds for a while.  I need to beef up on the new finds and failures.  Thanks for the up-date.  That's go in the vault.  Can anyone else confirm this?  I'll regret this, but Marduk...what's your take?
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Your source Edgar cayce also predicted that atlantis would be discovered. In the 60s
The story that the egyptian authjorities were worried that digging would damage the sphinx is rubbish.
they're just not in the habit of letting people dig where they like with just one untested ground radar scan as evidence.
Lots of teams have used ground penetrating radar in that area and didn't find anything.
ground penetrating radar iirc is able to penetrate 30 feet of loose soil in optimum conditions
it doesn't work at all on bedrock like which the sphinx is built on.

However, Lions in the ancient world were regarded as guardians of great knowledge. although that probably sounds like it backs up the possibility of a secret chamber, it is far more likely to have originated the myth in the first place.
one other slightly more obvious thing that should strike your common sense. What secret knowledge exactly are you expecting to find. We know pretty much all the technical knowledge that the egyptians had. Theres no evidence of superior technology anywhere else in egypt so if the egyptians buried something there then why didn't they use it themselves. If you're expecting a start trek type computer core or something then you just have a vivid imagination.
I would of course like it to be true. But there isn't much chance of it is there no.gif no.gif no.gif
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According to E.C. a portion of Atantis would be discovered in 1967-68 and in 1968 a long stone road or wall was discovered off the Bimini channel. The stones are too unified to be natural. No one can explain them, and I believe firmly E.C. was right. I believe there is a lost civilization to be found out there. And nothing you can say, Marduk, will change my mind. But I do not follow my faith blindly like religion, rather I've taken into all the facts before me and this is the conclusion I have set.
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Not according to Edgar Cayce. He stated that Atlantis would reappear in the 1960's.
Thats all of it
he said nothing about a portion.
do you see atlantis out there
It seems to me that once again A R you're talking about your opinion that clearly isn't based on actual events
Atlantis according to Cayce was the size of Europe
Not the size of a wall.
You maybe don't as you say follow blind faith but you are reading non factual websites most of the time
"The famous Bimini "wall" or "road," in the Bahamas, has engendered many a sensational article in the popular press. Atlanteans and even extraterrestrials have been credited with the building of the "road" and other constructions reported around the Caribbean island. The fact is that the "road" does exist, but the weight of opinion among those who have investigated it is that it is a natural formation of beach rock fractured in a disturbingly regular manner."
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf064/sf064a01.htm

you also say that the stones are too unified to be natural
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this is whats known as the giants causeway in ireland
No doubt if it was found underwater you would call it atlantis too
The only reliable source you have for the existence of atlantis is Plato.
and right at the start of the story he even said it was fictional. though of course you'll know all about that having read all off criteus and timeus......right ?
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nativechick1989
You tell them Marduk!

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aquatus1
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I believe there is a lost civilization to be found out there. And nothing you can say, Marduk, will change my mind. But I do not follow my faith blindly like religion, rather I've taken into all the facts before me and this is the conclusion I have set.


You have come to a conclusion, and refuse to allow any further information to change your mind, yet you do not consider this blind faith? Does this not offend your sense of logic? Blind faith isn't what makes a decision; blind faith is what keeps you from changing it in the face of new information.

Surely you do not think that the information that you have based your conclusions on is the be all and end all, the final culmination of research that is ever to be discovered on the subject?
Ancient World Wonders
Those are not even the stones. These are...

http://www.subversiveelement.com/BiminiRoad.html

And I've read tons of books on Atlantis, even Edgar Cayce on Atlantis, and he says a portion. You have no idea what you're talking about, Marduk. I'm a specialist on Atlantis!
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 12:22 AM)
Those are not even the stones.  These are...

http://www.subversiveelement.com/BiminiRoad.html

And I've read tons of books on Atlantis, even Edgar Cayce on Atlantis, and he says a portion.  You have no idea what you're talking about, Marduk.  I'm a specialist on Atlantis!
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I have no idea what i'm talking about
hahahahahaha
you are an idiot
you're the one linking to a website that also talks about how real ufos and aliens are
http://www.subversiveelement.com/SubversiveElement.html
and you call that evidence
come back when you've grown up and know what you're talking about
You claim to be an expert on atlantis yet you haven't even read platos account ?
not enough crap in for you i guess.
Of course i know you'll now claim you have read it so you'll be able to tell me how plato describes the story of atlantis before he relates it
right ....?
put up or shut up
Ancient World Wonders
Bluntly: Plato doesn't tell it, he recounts it. Socrates relies it. Plato hides in the shadows and listens. Socrates spoke to a scrab in Eygpt who tells him of a people who lives in the sea, countless years ago, who were completely swallowed up.

You wanna play, Marduk... Let's play! You don't know who you're messing with when it comes to Atlantis. My name isn't Atlantis Rises for nothing.

That link is to the pictures, not to the other portion of the site. I'm stating you linked to the wrong pictures. My link is the Bimini Road (Wall).

You wanna read my theories, go to the editorial page and read my column.


I think you're afriad to believe in anything because you'd be mocked. I'm not afraid! But I won't get into an argument with you, Marduk. You enjoy putting people down. But when it comes to Atlantis, you've met your match, buddy.

As for my age, I'm a mature 29. thumbsup.gif Thank you!
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 12:44 AM)
Bluntly: Plato doesn't tell it, he recounts it. Socrates relies it.  Plato hides in the shadows and listens.  Socrates spoke to a scrab in Eygpt who tells him of a people who lives in the sea, countless years ago, who were completely swallowed up.

You wanna play, Marduk... Let's play!  You don't know who you're messing with when it comes to Atlantis.  My name isn't Atlantis Rises for nothing.

That link is to the pictures, not to the other portion of the site.  I'm stating you linked to the wrong pictures.  My link is the Bimini Road (Wall).

You wanna read my theories, go to the editorial page and read my column.


I think you're afriad to believe in anything because you'd be mocked.  I'm not afraid!  But I won't get into an argument with you, Marduk.  You enjoy putting people down.  But when it comes to Atlantis, you've met your match, buddy.

As for my age, I'm a mature 29.  thumbsup.gif  Thank you!
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So you haven't read it then
cos you can't answer the question
and you are an idiot
socrates didn't write criteus or timaeus the only two stories that plato told that included the STORY
Plato staed himself that what he was saying was fiction in plain language
but of course you know that dontcha
I believe in plenty of things but i don't listen to crap and believe it like you seem to.
Atlantis was a myth
The previous picture i posted wasn't the bimini wall and thats why i stated when i posted it that it wasn't the bimini wall
it is a natural formation thats more regulat than the bimini wall.
so that stuffs your theory that the stones of the wall are so obviously man made because to you an untrained geologist who's never studied natural rock formations outside of a load of rubbish you read on the net somewhere
Answer me this really easy question seeing as you couldn't answer the other one
where is atlantis today ?
Ancient World Wonders
According to Plato outside the Pillars of Heracles, the Atlantic Ocean.

And I never said Socrates wrote the Timeaus and Criteus, you didn't read my post clearly. My answer is correct. Socrates was the protagonist in the Timeaus and recounted the story to his gatherers. Plato was listening off-stage, so to speak, writing the two tales later in life, about 20-30 years later.

Read my article.
aquatus1
Neither of you seems to be reading each others posts anymore.

Atlantis, please note that Marduk makes it clear that the picture he posted is of the Giant's Causeway, in Ireland. He does not, at any time, pretend that it is the Bimini wall, and only posts it as an example of natural forming stone that looks, to the untrained eye, man-made.

Marduk, Atlantis never claimed Socrates wrote Plato's Dialogues (which is not to say that Atlantis is displaying particularly correct knowledge concerning them). Damn, you were doing so well too, before flying off the handle.

In regards to Cayce, he does indeed say only a portion, however...

Atlantis, I am curious as to the extent of your knowledge. I am not a specialist on Atlantis, however I am quite skilled at research and methodology, and have gathered quite a bit of data on this subject myself.. Please, tell me, so that I might be able to gauge your actual level of knowledge:

1) Did Edgar Cayce make the prediction that Atlantis (or a portion thereof) would be found at Bimini?

2) What did Edgar Cayce call the portion that would be discovered?

These are not trick questions, but rather questions that a specialist would be able to answer more readily than a novice. Forgive my skepticism, but there are a lot of pretenders here.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 01:05 AM)
According to Plato outside the Pillars of Heracles, the Atlantic Ocean. 

And I never said Socrates wrote the Timeaus and Criteus, you didn't read my post clearly.  My answer is correct.  Socrates was the protagonist in the Timeaus and recounted the story to his gatherers.  Plato was listening off-stage, so to speak, writing the two tales later in life, about 20-30 years later. 

Read my article.
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yeah i read it
i especially liked when you said "we can pretty much discard the "Bimini Wall" find"
and also when you speak about lemuria
i'd stongly advise you to check your facts on lemuria
it never actually existed outside of one mans imagination.
"Plato said that he heard the story of Atlantis from the Greek Philosopher Solon, who heard it from an Egyptian priest. "
no he didn't
plato heard it from socrates who read it from solon's writings who heard it from an egyptian priest
allegedly. because solon's writing though well accounted for and on file don't say anything about it at all.

this bit is amusing "The Great Sphinx of Egypt may hold an answer to this question. Beneath the right paw of the Sphinx is an unclaimed chamber found by sonic subterranean equipment nearly 10 years ago"
thought you knew better
if i was you i'd go and re edit it quite a lot and cut out the many obvious mistakes that are in it
if you submitted that article to mainstream archaeological magasine they'd tell you
"don't call us, we'll call you"
wh did you want me to read it when its full of holes
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 4 2005, 08:39 PM)
Neither of you seems to be reading each others posts anymore.

Atlantis, please note that Marduk makes it clear that the picture he posted is of the Giant's Causeway, in Ireland.  He does not, at any time, pretend that it is the Bimini wall, and only posts it as an example of natural forming stone that looks, to the untrained eye, man-made.

Marduk, Atlantis never claimed Socrates wrote Plato's Dialogues (which is not to say that Atlantis is displaying particularly correct knowledge concerning them).  Damn, you were doing so well too, before flying off the handle.

In regards to Cayce, he does indeed say only a portion, however...

Atlantis, I am curious as to the extent of your knowledge.  I am not a specialist on Atlantis, however I am quite skilled at research and methodology, and have gathered quite a bit of data on this subject myself..  Please, tell me, so that I might be able to gauge your actual level of knowledge:

1)  Did Edgar Cayce make the prediction that Atlantis (or a portion thereof) would be found at Bimini?

2)  What did Edgar Cayce call the portion that would be discovered?

These are not trick questions, but rather questions that a specialist would be able to answer more readily than a novice.  Forgive my skepticism, but there are a lot of pretenders here.
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1) At Bimini, no. He said a portion would resurface in either 1967-68. He wasn't sure where. It was only when a plane was flying over the spot was the prediction validated.

2) The right edge, if my memory recalls.
Ancient World Wonders
Forgive me, it was Solon. I haven't read the Timeaus and Criteus in years, and as I said in another thread I've been out of the loop for a while when it comes to archaeology. I need to beef up. But my knowledge is great when it comes to Atlantis. Once I revisit my notes again, and I have a large binder I'll be top of my game again.
aquatus1
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 12:53 AM)

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1)  Did Edgar Cayce make the prediction that Atlantis (or a portion thereof) would be found at Bimini?
2)  What did Edgar Cayce call the portion that would be discovered?

1) At Bimini, no. He said a portion would resurface in either 1967-68. He wasn't sure where. It was only when a plane was flying over the spot was the prediction validated.
2) The right edge, if my memory recalls.
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I'm sorry, let me clarify:

1) Who said a portion of Atlantis would be found in Bimini?

2) Edgar Cayce specifically named the portion of Atlantis that would be found. What did he call it?

I do recommend a re-reading of Plato's Dialogue (if you have read them, you know the aren't that long). Please note that the story of the origin of the story is part of the actual story itself, not a separate event. In other words, using it to support the authenticity of the story is similar to supporting the authenticity of Hogwarts by citing passages from the Harry Potter books.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 4 2005, 08:39 PM)
Neither of you seems to be reading each others posts anymore.

Atlantis, please note that Marduk makes it clear that the picture he posted is of the Giant's Causeway, in Ireland.  He does not, at any time, pretend that it is the Bimini wall, and only posts it as an example of natural forming stone that looks, to the untrained eye, man-made.

Marduk, Atlantis never claimed Socrates wrote Plato's Dialogues (which is not to say that Atlantis is displaying particularly correct knowledge concerning them).  Damn, you were doing so well too, before flying off the handle.

In regards to Cayce, he does indeed say only a portion, however...

Atlantis, I am curious as to the extent of your knowledge.  I am not a specialist on Atlantis, however I am quite skilled at research and methodology, and have gathered quite a bit of data on this subject myself..  Please, tell me, so that I might be able to gauge your actual level of knowledge:

1)  Did Edgar Cayce make the prediction that Atlantis (or a portion thereof) would be found at Bimini?

2)  What did Edgar Cayce call the portion that would be discovered?

These are not trick questions, but rather questions that a specialist would be able to answer more readily than a novice.  Forgive my skepticism, but there are a lot of pretenders here.
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1) At Bimini, no. He said a portion would resurface in either 1967-68. He wasn't sure where. It was only when a plane was flying over the spot was the prediction validated.

2) The right edge, if my memory recalls.
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i was doing so well ?
if you'd said it was a competition earlier i'd have put some effort into it
btw i didn't say that a r claimed that socrates wrote the two accounts that tell of atlantis
i was saying that whatever socrates actually said is irrelevant because only plato wrote about it
though i can see how you would misconstrue what i was saying
i wasn't very clear.
for the record
"And now, Socrates, to make an end my preface, I am ready to tell you the whole tale. I will give you not only the general heads, but the particulars, as they were told to me. The city and citizens, which you yesterday described to us in fiction, we will now transfer to the world of reality. It shall be the ancient city of Athens, and we will suppose that the citizens whom you imagined, were our veritable ancestors, of whom the priest spoke; they will perfectly harmonise, and there will be no inconsistency in saying that the citizens of your republic are these ancient Athenians. Let us divide the subject among us, and all endeavour according to our ability gracefully to execute the task which you have imposed upon us. Consider then, Socrates, if this narrative is suited to the purpose, or whether we should seek for some other instead."
see plato even said it was fiction and seeing as he wrote it you'd think he would know
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QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 4 2005, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 12:53 AM)

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1)  Did Edgar Cayce make the prediction that Atlantis (or a portion thereof) would be found at Bimini?
2)  What did Edgar Cayce call the portion that would be discovered?

1) At Bimini, no. He said a portion would resurface in either 1967-68. He wasn't sure where. It was only when a plane was flying over the spot was the prediction validated.
2) The right edge, if my memory recalls.
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I'm sorry, let me clarify:

1) Who said a portion of Atlantis would be found in Bimini?

2) Edgar Cayce specifically named the portion of Atlantis that would be found. What did he call it?

I do recommend a re-reading of Plato's Dialogue (if you have read them, you know the aren't that long). Please note that the story of the origin of the story is part of the actual story itself, not a separate event. In other words, using it to support the authenticity of the story is similar to supporting the authenticity of Hogwarts by citing passages from the Harry Potter books.
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My knowledge is a little rusty, so please forgive me. 1). E.C. 2) West Edge.
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 02:17 AM)
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 4 2005, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 12:53 AM)

QUOTE
1)  Did Edgar Cayce make the prediction that Atlantis (or a portion thereof) would be found at Bimini?
2)  What did Edgar Cayce call the portion that would be discovered?

1) At Bimini, no. He said a portion would resurface in either 1967-68. He wasn't sure where. It was only when a plane was flying over the spot was the prediction validated.
2) The right edge, if my memory recalls.
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I'm sorry, let me clarify:

1) Who said a portion of Atlantis would be found in Bimini?

2) Edgar Cayce specifically named the portion of Atlantis that would be found. What did he call it?

I do recommend a re-reading of Plato's Dialogue (if you have read them, you know the aren't that long). Please note that the story of the origin of the story is part of the actual story itself, not a separate event. In other words, using it to support the authenticity of the story is similar to supporting the authenticity of Hogwarts by citing passages from the Harry Potter books.
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My knowledge is a little rusty, so please forgive me. 1). E.C. 2) West Edge.
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you might find this useful for your records
http://www.answers.com/lemuria
aquatus1
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 01:17 AM)
My knowledge is a little rusty, so please forgive me.  1).  E.C.  2) West Edge.
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I recommend you freshen up your memory.
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Thank you.
aquatus1
So, are we going back on topic, or has that been lost to the past?
marduk
QUOTE(Atlantis Rises @ Jun 5 2005, 02:25 AM)
Thank you.
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so we've gone from
"And I've read tons of books on Atlantis, even Edgar Cayce on Atlantis, and he says a portion. You have no idea what you're talking about, Marduk. I'm a specialist on Atlantis!"
to
"My knowledge is a little rusty, so please forgive me."
Just a little rusty ?
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aquatus1
Oy, Marduk, master of diplomacy...
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When a person hasn't kept in touch with a subject for several years they tend to get rusty on the subject. And I am. I thought I would remember a lot more than I claim. Sorry folks. Let's start over again.

I love the subject of Atlantis and its connection to Egypt. I'll beef up for a next converse. Okay, back on topic!
marduk
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 5 2005, 02:30 AM)
Oy, Marduk, master of diplomacy...
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you're not the one who's been told he doesn't know anything by someone that doesn't know anything
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aquatus1
Personally, I'm iffy about the claim of a chamber under the Sphynx. Are we agreed the Sphynx isn't 10,500 years old?
aquatus1
QUOTE(marduk @ Jun 5 2005, 01:36 AM)
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 5 2005, 02:30 AM)
Oy, Marduk, master of diplomacy...
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you're not the one who's been told he doesn't know anything by someone that doesn't know anything
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Oh, yeah, I've never had that happen to me. rolleyes.gif

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You live for arguments.
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