Heres a picture of a green orb i got in the saracen head in glasgow, its in the top left, theres also a white one in the top right

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Arcadia1/DSCF1317.jpg

is there anyone here tottally convinced by orbs? if you are could you say why?

All I can say is that I've seen much better orbs than that; I don't know about those ones, could be anything, smudges, water droplets...

I think the picture is very good. They are clearly defined Orbs and I don't see how one can have seen better ones. What do you mean by better? Why not post them? Neither do I know what is meant by "believing" in Orbs. Orbs (or discs, membranes, whatever you want to call them) exist in hundreds of photos. Orbs have only appeared in ONE of my photos.....ever. I'm tired of people saying "they could be anything" and "dust particles" and "water droplets", as if that made an end of the mystery. It doesn't. NOBODY has yet come up with an authoritative and definitive explanation of Orbs or for a whole host of other, different types of light anomalies. Glib debunkers who have never really studied the subject at all, let alone research the background and circumstances of the pictures and the personalities of the people who take the pictures should be ignored if they can do no better than reiterate the same old hackneyed phrases, without offering any new slant on the mystery. For example, has anybody ever considered that some of these photographic anomalies might be the effect of impacts by sub-atomic particles on film? The only time I ever decided to take pictures in a haunted hotel, just in case I was fortunate enough to capture some Orbs I got more than I bargained for but no Orbs. I have posted these pictures more than once on this Forum but have received only (with one or two exceptions) fatuous "explanations" of the anomalies in them, including criticism of the hotel curtains. As for the orbs in the "Saracen's Head": I like the picture with the orbs but can offer no explanation for them. However, I have seen night-vision film of Orbs and they actually move around in erratic paths. Too many debunkers disregard this fact when they dismiss Orbs in "still" pictures. Let me say this one, last thing. If they were dust particles they would not always have the same shape and that characteristic onion-layer pattern within them. Nor could they (while describing all sorts of zig-zag and figure-of-eight paths in front of the camera), ALWAYS maintain the angle of reflection directed towards the camera. Spheroids could. Lonecat

I have seen some real orb photos and they are few and far between.

I get sick of people just going "It's dust" or "it's water droplets" because it is not. That is a quick and unedicated guess.

I am a professional photographer. I have had orbs show up in simple portraits of models. I did some research and what I found out is that orbs primarily show up on cameras where the flash is located on the body of the camera. Since digital cameras have become common place, orb photos have more than tripled.

See my post here for information I gathered on orbs.

Hmm well going by your thread rayce i take it the orbs i got were dust

I dont really have any faith in digi cam orbs anymore the only orbs i think you can really trust are the ones with long tails and the ones you get on camcorder that move in strange patterns

We have 3 great ones just now that i havent seen yet supposedly there all around me moving very strangely and one moves in an L shape on my chest, its not on the site yet but it will be once the saracen head review is finished

Check out some of the orb footage in our investigations page and see what you think of them rayce, the site is www.ghostfinders.co.uk

Arcadia...good defined picture. You might want to go back to that location and look around to see if there are any factors that could have produced a false orb. This way you can verify if the orb is real and also people will not have room for argument over if this is real or not. At least that way you can narrow down your collections of photos to which one that seem more authentic.

Cool pics..! Is the pub haunted anyway..? Old pubs and hotels always have ghosts..!

Tell me, what is the source of the green light in the background? That to me clearly shows the source of the "green orb". It's the same hue, and the same consistant brightness. As for the other, it also appears to be a reflection of the second light source in the upper right hand corner.

""I have seen some real orb photos and they are few and far between.

I get sick of people just going "It's dust" or "it's water droplets" because it is not. That is a quick and unedicated guess.""


Rayce, I took this pic and it was raining outside. That's what I figured these "orbs" are. What do you think?

Link

Dust and flash orbs are very similar so it is hard to tell which is which. Flash orbs are not always perfectly round but they usually are. It depends on the shape of your lens and where your flash is located.



I was looking at your orb footage and going "dust", "dust again" and so on until I got to footage #3 from the Jail Investigation. I've NEVER seen dust act like that! That was incredible! Usually I would say a draft but even an air draft doesn't spiral like that orb did.

Here is the image again, I outlined the sources that could attribute to the orbs.

Definately rain orbs. Rain orbs are really bright because water reflects light much easier than dust or a flash orb. I created a bunch of rain orbs by taking photos of water hitting my deck rail and they looked just like those.

That's what I figured. It'll break my son's heart to find out he isn't in a ghost pic, though. Oh well....maybe next time.

I get sick of people just going "It's dust" or "it's water droplets" because it is not. That is a quick and unedicated guess.

I am a professional photographer. I have had orbs show up in simple portraits of models. I did some research and what I found out is that orbs primarily show up on cameras where the flash is located on the body of the camera. Since digital cameras have become common place, orb photos have more than tripled.

See my post here for information I gathered on orbs.
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Hmm well going by your thread rayce i take it the orbs i got were dust

I dont really have any faith in digi cam orbs anymore the only orbs i think you can really trust are the ones with long tails and the ones you get on camcorder that move in strange patterns

We have 3 great ones just now that i havent seen yet supposedly there all around me moving very strangely and one moves in an L shape on my chest, its not on the site yet but it will be once the saracen head review is finished

Check out some of the orb footage in our investigations page and see what you think of them rayce, the site is www.ghostfinders.co.uk
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I've taken scads of pics w/ my digital camera and have never gotten an orb. So what's the prob w/ digicams?

After looking over you picture I would have to say that Fable's possible sources are a good chance of being the cause of the orbs. If you are able you should go back and see if you can gather any more evidence and try duplicating this photo again. I suggest to everyone that they should get some more equipment consiting of emfs thermal etc.. These tools can help verify your photos. I ve done a lot of testing with natural orbs and none of which will really effect any of the equipment like a spirit orb will. Below is a link to an orb photo that was taken in proper weather with a increase with a emf meter. The average reading in the cemetery was around 0.0 to 0.3 the reading we got at the time was 4.6mgauss. I now use this along with several other photos that were taken with support with other equipment and use them as a base to judge orb shots that had no other equipment present.

http://upia0.tripod.com/photos/index.album?i=8

Jeremy Wiley
The United Paranormal Investigators Association

It isn't just digital cameras but any camera with the flash located on the body of the camera. My friends and I did a test once. We had two people stand next to each other. One had a digital with an on board flash and the other had a professional digital camera with an external flash that could be hold up and away from the camera. The on board flash came out with orbs and the digital flash standing right next to him came out clean.

It all depends on where your flash is located, what the conditions are and what reflective surfaces are there to reflect the flash back at the lens. All of these things can cause flash orbs.

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I was looking at your orb footage and going "dust", "dust again" and so on until I got to footage #3 from the Jail Investigation. I've NEVER seen dust act like that! That was incredible! Usually I would say a draft but even an air draft doesn't spiral like that orb did.
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Yeah im forgetting there very short clips i think our website guy has problems getting a lot on but we do have some very strange moving orbs and yeah lol that one that spirals is very strange, its almost as if it flys into one of the cells too

I'm with Jeremy on this one. The best way of trying to conclude if it could possibly be paranormal is by going back and either trying to duplicate the image or find other evidence. However, I have a good feeling that you would more than likely get the same results if both light sources mentioned are on.

Well i dont really see any point in going back to that particular place just for that,might aswell do an experiment elsewhere

I doubt wed get the same effect anyway,i have done quite a few experiments with orbs like this,trying to take the picture from the same angle but havent got the same thing,i suppose its impossible to get the exact same angle but i think we should do more experiments.