Mr Slayer
May 17 2005, 09:27 AM
I think that we all are believers, in one way or another. But what do we believe? Isn't believeing, no matter in what, pretty much the same thing?
Even atheists are believers...in nothing.
Spirituality can take many forms, and who is to judge if Christianity is more right or wrong than believeing in the forces of Nature? What is "ridiculous"? What is accepted?
Do you have respect for other people's beliefs?
phenomenon
May 17 2005, 09:47 AM
I certainly believe in Nature, it's the only one you list that's tangeable. The rest are down to personal belief or faith, not reality. I don't belive in a god, Jesus and most definately not Satan or UFO's, but nature, yep.
Mr Slayer
May 17 2005, 09:50 AM
Ditto!
DanaScully
May 17 2005, 09:54 AM
Well, I'm catholic and I believe in God. But I don't agree in everything with this religion... in some way, I'm more closed of Boudha... I believes in many lifes, we are all going back some time after our death... to be better, to experience every nations, every individual, every religion... We are coming back as a man and as a woman as well... This is what I believe, and this is my opinion... take it as you want
liljellybean
May 17 2005, 09:56 AM
Umm. can i just say something first?
This is a great website. I love it its heaps of fun. But what I do not understand is why people see it as a tool to persecute Christians.
I am truly and deeply insulted by the amount of discriminatiion generated by this website and I only hope that in the future the people who run this site can try to be a bit more user freindly.
This is the UNEXPLAINED MYSTERIES website not the "Everyone who hates christains get on and pay them out all in the name of making the myth about aliens seem credible" site.
I am sure heaps of people would agree with me. Lets have more important posts than just posts about people who have a problem with religions.
God Bless
P.S To answer your question yes I believe in God, Jesus the Devil and UFO's but not Aliens. And for everyone who will contridict me, a UFO is an unidentified flying object not a alien mothership.
kwai
May 17 2005, 10:00 AM
Although i wouldn't call myself devout i try and follow the Buddhist edicts.Not worshipping any deity but taking responsibility for my actions and trying to become a better ,more enlightened person through my every day actions and meditation.
I have respect for All Religions and if invited to any religious occasion(weddings,baptisms etc) try and fit in as not to offend anyone.
HOWEVER,
What I CANNOT STAND is people who preach to me and adopt a sneering,holier than thou attitude.They tend to be dismissive of any other religion and think they have the answer to all of lifes questions through their belief. NOT ONE PERSON OR ONE "FAITH" HAS ALL THE ANSWERS.
Apparently me,( and around 3/4 of the worlds population) are going directly to "HELL" for not following their religion of choice and they delight in telling me so.
Really ?? you think so?? Who's to say you haven't got it wrong.
Faith is a good thing .Blind faith is just scary!
phenomenon
May 17 2005, 10:03 AM
This is a mysteries Site and Religion is to some degree just that. As yet I haven't seen one negative comment in this thread and history tells me that you probably won't. I'm sure the mods will make sure of that.
The fact that many people don't have religious tendancies does not make them rude or point towards them attacking your religion, simply put, they don't believe in god, but you do.
liljellybean
May 17 2005, 10:08 AM
[quote=phenomenon,May 17 2005, 10:03 AM]
This is a mysteries Site and Religion is to some degree just that. As yet I haven't seen one negative comment in this thread and history tells me that you probably won't. I'm sure the mods will make sure of that.
You will have to read some of the old ones then like "101 Bible contridictions" (which were all wrong) and others. I just think that some people in here use the excuse of posting whatever they wont to get away with racism.
kwai
May 17 2005, 10:19 AM
[quote=liljellybean,May 17 2005, 10:08 AM]
[quote=phenomenon,May 17 2005, 10:03 AM]
You will have to read some of the old ones then like "101 Bible contridictions" (which were all wrong) and others. I just think that some people in here use the excuse of posting whatever they wont to get away with racism.
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Bit OT but ......
Does religious belief dictate your race?
Are a British Caucasian and an Nigerian say..the same Race because they are both Christian.
What about Chinese and Indian Buddhists?
Personally i think it's never warranted but do attacks on a Religious belief technically constitue "Racism" ?
Mr Slayer
May 17 2005, 03:07 PM
QUOTE(liljellybean @ May 17 2005, 10:56 AM)
Umm. can i just say something first?
This is a great website. I love it its heaps of fun. But what I do not understand is why people see it as a tool to persecute Christians.
I am truly and deeply insulted by the amount of discriminatiion generated by this website and I only hope that in the future the people who run this site can try to be a bit more user freindly.
This is the UNEXPLAINED MYSTERIES website not the "Everyone who hates christains get on and pay them out all in the name of making the myth about aliens seem credible" site.
I am sure heaps of people would agree with me. Lets have more important posts than just posts about people who have a problem with religions.
God Bless
P.S To answer your question yes I believe in God, Jesus the Devil and UFO's but not Aliens. And for everyone who will contridict me, a UFO is an unidentified flying object not a alien mothership.
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Well, this is actually an off-paranormal topic. And this is no persecution. It is a friendly question where everybody get to put forward their opinion. Even you. But hasted statements like yours above make me truly wonder why people do persecute Christians...
101
May 17 2005, 03:09 PM
Yes I am a Christian and I believe in a lot of things. I mean why can't we believe in the paranormal. I mean for instance Passover and the Angel of Death....And Ghosts, angels, demons, God, aliens, and others. I believe everyone believes in something. Like you say even athiests believe in nothing..... I think this was a great topic...
Nxt2Hvn
May 17 2005, 03:15 PM
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Do you believe in God? Jesus? UFOs? Nature? Satan?
Let me see.....
God... Definitely

.... Jesus.... Of course

...... UFO's.... Yes.. (I believe that there is something out there).... Nature...uh.. Yeah

.... Satan... Yeppers
I guess you can say I am truly a believer!!
Mr Slayer
May 17 2005, 03:46 PM
QUOTE(101 @ May 17 2005, 04:09 PM)
Yes I am a Christian and I believe in a lot of things. I mean why can't we believe in the paranormal. I mean for instance Passover and the Angel of Death....And Ghosts, angels, demons, God, aliens, and others. I believe everyone believes in something. Like you say even athiests believe in nothing..... I think this was a great topic...
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Thanx! Welcome back any time
101
May 17 2005, 04:06 PM
Oh well thank you...
Discordia
May 17 2005, 04:24 PM
I believe in nature and science. I do not believe in God/Satan but I do believe there are other forms of intelligent life somewhere out there. (Not saying I believe they have visited our planet before.) I respect others' beliefs as long as they don't try to force it on me, then I tend to get a little arrogant.
Mr Slayer
May 17 2005, 04:41 PM
QUOTE(Discordia @ May 17 2005, 05:24 PM)
I believe in nature and science. I do not believe in God/Satan but I do believe there are other forms of intelligent life somewhere out there. (Not saying I believe they have visited our planet before.) I respect others' beliefs as long as they don't try to force it on me, then I tend to get a little arrogant.
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Amalgamut
May 17 2005, 04:54 PM
I believe there is "all of the above." However, I'm not sure what is meant by "nature."
nativechick1989
May 17 2005, 05:44 PM
I'm a Christian and I believe in a lot of things - I keep a very open-mind.
Mr Slayer
May 17 2005, 06:46 PM
By "nature" I meant the stereotype "Force of nature" or "Mother nature", well, the balance in nature if you will, I'm not 100% sure what I meant...:0)
It is a pretty wide definition.
DanaScully
May 17 2005, 11:10 PM
I'm really sorry if my post offended somebody. My purpose was not to say :"ok, I believe in that, so you have to do the same". I would never do that !
I only gave my opinion in what I believed, christian or not, catholic or not, or whatever the religion I belong for... I mean, I'm not racist at all... I'm living in a small country and all nations are represented around here... well, if my post hurted someone, I really sorry...
Amalgamut
May 17 2005, 11:14 PM
QUOTE(DanaScully @ May 17 2005, 05:10 PM)
I'm really sorry if my post offended somebody. My purpose was not to say :"ok, I believe in that, so you have to do the same". I would never do that !
I only gave my opinion in what I believed, christian or not, catholic or not, or whatever the religion I belong for... I mean, I'm not racist at all... I'm living in a small country and all nations are represented around here... well, if my post hurted someone, I really sorry...

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ShaunZero
May 17 2005, 11:19 PM
I for one, beleive in God. I also beleive in Satan, NOT hell though. UFOs are also real...OF COURSE THEY ARE, its an unidentified flying object =D.
Few things I beleive/Dont beleive about God:
Jesus is NOT God.
Hell does NOT exist.
People worthy of a ressurection will inhabit the earth, NOT heaven. Although 144,000(somewhere around that many) will be brought into heaven.
I dont beleive God exist in this physical universe.
DanaScully
May 17 2005, 11:29 PM
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ May 18 2005, 01:14 AM)
QUOTE(DanaScully @ May 17 2005, 05:10 PM)
I'm really sorry if my post offended somebody. My purpose was not to say :"ok, I believe in that, so you have to do the same". I would never do that !
I only gave my opinion in what I believed, christian or not, catholic or not, or whatever the religion I belong for... I mean, I'm not racist at all... I'm living in a small country and all nations are represented around here... well, if my post hurted someone, I really sorry...

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Well, I was wondering because I was in the first ones to answer and then I read all these posts regarding racism and everything... I was just hoping that I didn't hurt anybody with my post... so, if not, I'm glad about it !
RH2097
May 17 2005, 11:33 PM
I belive in God, I believe we are his science project.
I believe in Jesus, I believe that he was a man who was crucified and died for our sins.
I believe in UFO's and aliens, Earth cannot in no possible way be the only planet in our universe and beyond with life.
I believe in Nature, I believe after God's creation project, he let nature take it's course.
I believe in Satan, the good and the bad always have to balance out, which one is he? I do not know.
I believe everyone has a right to their beliefs, I don't think no one has a right in hell to tell them otherwise.
Darkwind
May 18 2005, 05:10 AM
I believe in the interconnected web of life that exists though out the Universe. I believe the Universe itself is a living being as the Earth. The God/desses are beings that exist in different overlapping dimensions. We and the God/desses are beings of many kinds of energy. Energy never really goes away it changes. When we die we become another form of energy. I would say that is my core belief.
I don't care what other people believe that is their Path. I can't walk their Path and they can't walk mine.
hyperactive
May 18 2005, 05:47 AM
i believe man is a slug in the garden of life.
man is but part of a complex system called the universe (by man).
gods -> only in fiction
jesus -> only a man (a philosopher)
UFOs -> neutral
nature -> definitely
i place no value in the artifical constructs of "the upright ignoramus" called man!
MrScienceGuy
May 18 2005, 06:31 AM
What are you doing in this section, hyper
Monkyburd
May 18 2005, 02:46 PM
Ah... this is like abreeding ground for new believers!
I myself Believe in the exsistance of the Paranormal, (Ghosts, PK, a soul, ect. ect.) and that there is a "higher power" at work in our world, yet I can't come to put a face on it.
I am so pleased to see so many believers around here, and wished I'd found it sooner!
In case some of you don't know, I and a few other members have created a believer's group on this site called the
Believer's Corps of Approachable Conveyance and all of you sound like you would make welcome editions to our group.
If you are interested and want to know more you can check out my blog or send me a PM if you feel so inclined.
Unorthodox Thesis
May 18 2005, 03:22 PM
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I think that we all are believers, in one way or another. But what do we believe? Isn't believeing, no matter in what, pretty much the same thing?
Even atheists are believers...in nothing.
Spirituality can take many forms, and who is to judge if Christianity is more right or wrong than believeing in the forces of Nature? What is "ridiculous"? What is accepted?
I believe that the Gods and divine beings of the Bible travel in rapidly flying, glowing, flashing, spinning, metallic objects, which appear dark and solid like low clouds in daylight, while brightly lit, with projected beams of light at night. These objects descend to the ground, ascend into the sky, and hover above the ground for long periods, sounds are broadcast from them, and they exhibit power to alter the natural laws. Humans and other beings are described as ascending up into and descending down from these objects and perception of time is altered.
I believe that thousands of people testify to current presence of rapidly flying, glowing, flashing, spinning, metallic objects that appear dark and solid like low clouds in daylight, while brightly lit, with projected beams of light at night. These objects descend to the ground, ascend into the sky, and hover above ground for long periods, sounds are broadcast from them, and exhibit power to alter the natural laws. Humans and other beings are described as ascending up into and descending down from these objects and perception of time is altered.
I believe in the saviour Jesus Christ. I reject the church doctrine because it conflicts with the true teachings of the Bible.
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Do you have respect for other people's beliefs?
Sure. For as long as a mutual respect exists between me and them, I will.
However, I respect one's judgment on the basis of knowledge. Everyone has a certain amount of knowledge. Most people think they know more than others. However, I am no smarter than most folks here. But, the only way you really
have an idea of how much a person knows is if we look at their judgment. No?
Elspeth
May 21 2005, 04:07 AM
I believe in Grandfather, the four, and Mother Earth.
I respect other peoples beliefs and will treat them with respect if they treat me with respect.
747400
May 21 2005, 12:25 PM
I beleive in 'God' (if that's waht you want to call it) in terms of a designer, a creator if you like; the whole universe is just so darn complicated and all fits together in ways we can't begin to imagine for it all to have evolved by chance or by purely physcial processes. i also firmly beleive that there are other civilisations out there; there's just too many stars, too many planets, for there not to be intelligent life. If, as i beleive, this planet was designed by what we call God, then it surely fits that all the others were designed as well...
ADHD Inattentive
May 24 2005, 04:58 AM
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Do you believe in God? Jesus? UFOs? Nature? Satan?
To tell you the truth I believe neither of them exists.
1. God, Jesus, Satan? I for one am happy without them all, that bible stuff just seems more fairy-tell-ish then the reality that is all around me. But don’t get me wrong I am not bashing on anyone’s belief system. I truly admire Christian people; I feel that their dedication is unmatched. I am happy without believing in an all-powerful dark side (Satan), If their truly was a god why would he allow Satan to exist? Why is their pain and suffering?
2.Ufo's? Well I can’t say i believe in them either. It has been proven that a possibility of little gray aliens with two arms, two legs, and two eyes could never exist unless their evolution was almost exactly the same as ours. Which is a very small % of a possibility. I just look at it this way, what would be the perfect way to cover up what the government really is doing? Well making up a ufo hoax to distract us is a start. Do you really believe everything that you see on tell-lie-vision?

( although the thought of their being another civilization out there still makes me wonder."What if")
3.Nature? Well. Hmm.... I don’t know? I can’t say that I don’t believe in the buety of nature but then again im also not the hippie-type.
I myself believe in complete bliss. Being happy is the key, not something that bores me. Instead of being cooped up in some church id rather be enjoying life in the way that makes me happy. But if church is right for you then congrads on finding your bliss. Religion is based on how you see the world through your own two eyes and the experiences you yourself had. I have never seen a burning bush, but if I had I might have a different opinion of what I wrote above.
So I'll end this by saying " You only live once so be happy while you still have breath"
P.S. If they’re truly is a GOD out there… Ill digs my own grave in the end if I’m wrong.
zandore
May 24 2005, 02:43 PM
Welcome ADHD to the forum!
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" You only live once so be happy while you still have breath"
I like.
For me
1) Nature: You can See, Hear, Taste, Smell, and Touch.
2) UFOs: Been to many reports for to many years for there not to be something behind it. Unknown but something
3) : Self said.
4) God/Jesus: Mythology/Faith/Belief.
Cigarette_Smoking_Man
May 26 2005, 12:50 AM
I pretty much believe in all of the above. Certainly some things, like the laws of nature, are more tangible and provable, but that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of things that exist that we don't understand, or can't explain.
I also tend to believe that aliens are, at least in part, inter-dimensional beings, and not necessarily visitors from other planets within this universe.
Although I'm a Christian, I'm open to the truths in other religions as well as the truths in science and the observable universe.
By the way (as you may be able to tell) I'm new to the forum. I think it rocks, and it's nice to meet ya!
hyperactive
May 26 2005, 01:03 AM
@ cig smoking man:
welcome aboard! and prepare for a fantastic voyage
zandore
May 26 2005, 01:24 PM
Welcome Cigarette_Smoking_Man!
SRIHeidiL
May 26 2005, 08:00 PM
QUOTE(AshKatNah @ May 17 2005, 04:27 AM)
I think that we all are believers, in one way or another. But what do we believe? Isn't believeing, no matter in what, pretty much the same thing?
Even atheists are believers...in nothing.
Spirituality can take many forms, and who is to judge if Christianity is more right or wrong than believeing in the forces of Nature? What is "ridiculous"? What is accepted?
Do you have respect for other people's beliefs?
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You write like a true writer- or poet! I am a writer, and appreciate interesting words/posts.
I am a little confused, though, about the atheist comment...isnt it a double standard to say someone is a believer if they believe in nothing? If there is nothing to believe, how can they be a believer? If someone is not employed, can they be an employee?
I think the word "spirituality" is getting a bad rap. It's becoming a word abused so people think it is bad.
But I have to just think that whatever a person feels is right in their heart, that is all we can go by.
I believe in God, and the Bible, so I base my beliefs off that, but know that my experiences, research and study came before my faith. My faith just reinstates what I came to know.
I feel that there is an opposite to everything- dark to light, good to bad, up to down...and there is a consequence to everything we do. And in my belief, the Bible, that shows there is a consequence to how we live our life.
I could never grasp the concept, even when I was not a believer on God, that when we die, that is it and there is no more us. It is incomprehensible, to me.
But I respect all people, as long as they are worthy of that respect- decent people.
Respectfully written,
SRIHeidiL
May 26 2005, 08:05 PM
I'm right there with ya!
I am considered a "Christian" although I believe "religion" is just a set of man-made rules in an attempt to reach God. I follow the Bible. It does mention ghosts, etc...and I am also a strong believer in all of that.
I believe the Bible gave us everything we needed to know, but it did not give us
everything.I agree- great topic!
SRIHeidiL
May 26 2005, 08:23 PM
I loved your post. So well written!
I am Bible-believing, and very strong in trying to live the life I feel God intended me to be. Sometimes I feel stuck, though, because I :live and let live" when others do not, and those who are Christians may look down on me for that. I also travel in the paranormal life, because there is so much truth to the connection between God and the paranormal, I feel. But those who travel who are involved in the paranormal aspects, think I am a wack

, too LOL I cant win!
I just came to be a believer after years of not being one...nothing major happened in my life, but things led me to ask Q's, and seek out this debate. I have witnessed many spiritual things in my life, so I know there was more to what we have been taught by society. God has proven himself to me many times, so, I know He does exist. It was then I began seeking a church, and so many amazing things have happened in my life since then. That was a little over a year ago. I am 34 now, but I realize that so many of my years were wasted when I didnt know much of the truth.
I beleiev most beliefes are tied into life and oneanother, in some way, but I also believe that it all goes back to God.
I am on the fence when it comes to UFO's, etc...I believe they exist, but I just dont know how lol
It was put to me like this, when I did not believe in the Bible (when someone who did, approached me): "If you are right, then all I did was life a good life best I could...but if you are wrong, then you could live an eternal life of damnation". I was like

That thought stayed with me many years. It's not a chance I want to take lol
But, unlike many strong believers, I leave the truth and judging up to God and just bow out of debates when people become offended, etc...I'm just not an aggressive or confrontational person.
My two cents.
Again, respectfully written.
QUOTE(747400 @ May 21 2005, 07:25 AM)
I beleive in 'God' (if that's waht you want to call it) in terms of a designer, a creator if you like; the whole universe is just so darn complicated and all fits together in ways we can't begin to imagine for it all to have evolved by chance or by purely physcial processes. i also firmly beleive that there are other civilisations out there; there's just too many stars, too many planets, for there not to be intelligent life. If, as i beleive, this planet was designed by what we call God, then it surely fits that all the others were designed as well...
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sowegaMIB
May 26 2005, 08:55 PM
question: why is there other planets if we are the only ones?
I am a believer
I believe in many different thing, I don't see how one religon is totally correct..but that is my opinion
i think there is so much that we have to learn that noone is a hundred % sure, if you follow your heart about this matter then you are right, some believe that your body is the temple, is so then do what you feel is right...
Believe in yourself and you decide for yourself what to believe in...
thats one way to go..
SRIHeidiL
May 26 2005, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(sowegaMIB @ May 26 2005, 03:55 PM)
question: why is there other planets if we are the only ones?
I am a believer
I believe in many different thing, I don't see how one religon is totally correct..but that is my opinion
i think there is so much that we have to learn that noone is a hundred % sure, if you follow your heart about this matter then you are right, some believe that your body is the temple, is so then do what you feel is right...
Believe in yourself and you decide for yourself what to believe in...
thats one way to go..
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Good question! I wonder that myself. The Bible doesnt talk about other planets, but like I sai- the Bible gives us everything we need to know, but not everything. If we knew everything, we'd be God. And that would be boring to know all lol It takes the mystery and wonderment (fun) out of it all. I enjoy discussing views and opinions on this- food for thought.
I just believe in the Bible, and it's words, as they have proven 100% true in my life. I dont feel one religion is right- they all are run by man.
I like what you wrote- believe in yourself and you decide for yourself what to believe in! Very cool- and true!
sowegaMIB
May 27 2005, 01:18 AM
thanks Hedi
zandore
May 27 2005, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(SRIHeidiL Posted Yesterday @ 06:05 PM )
The Bible doesnt talk about other planets,
Not only does the Bible not talk about other planets but it also does not mention North and South America.
Unidentified Object
May 27 2005, 03:17 PM
I agree with the statement: We are all believers.
But I think this is really a personal topic as everyones beliefs are different somtimes alike that guide us through life. I myself am no believer of the bible as it is written but like to judge things with my heart or at leasy try my best doing so. I do think something like a SUPERIOR POWER exists maybe a bit different than that from the bible though.
Nevertheless a good source for gossip.
getrealwithgod
Aug 31 2005, 10:58 PM
From a strictly scriptural stance, I believe in all of the above. First, I believe the Hebrew term from which we get God in our Bible elohim in our Bibles shouldn't be translated @ all, but is a racial designation indicating a particular race of beings. 24 of these beings are seated on thrones in Yahweh's throne room in Rev 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
Interestingly enough, Jesus Himself by His own testimony was extraterrestrial in the strict sense of the word.
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
JMPD1
Aug 31 2005, 11:01 PM
Welcome to the boards getrealwithgod.
Do you have anything to contribute of your own, or are you just going to quote the bible?
good journey
Nadal
Aug 31 2005, 11:25 PM
God, no. Jesus, no Satan, diffently not Aliens, yes. Nature, Diffently.
getrealwithgod
Sep 1 2005, 01:44 PM
Sorry. I tend to examine life from a biblical standpoint because I believe the Bible, while a lot of it could be construed to be Jewish mythology, still has enough truth for me to believe man's existence is connected to the existence of Yahweh & His race the elohim, & the existence of the seraphim, an evolved reptilian race. You'll find 24 members of Yahweh's humanoid race crowned & seated on thrones in His throne room in Revelation 4. I believe it was these 24 elders He addressed when discussing creation in Genesis 3.
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