More than 600 kids are expelled from preschool in New York each year, according to a new study. That means preschoolers get kicked out at a rate nearly 18 times higher than that of kids from kindergarten to 12th grade. Preschoolers are generally three- and four-years-old.

The study shows that boys are four-and-a-half times more likely to get booted out than girls. Black children are twice as likely to get expelled as white or Hispanic preschoolers.

On average, six out of every one-thousand preschoolers are expelled from schools across the country.

In New York, the rate is nine out of every 1,000.

Preschool is not required in New York, so it's easier to remove a troublemaker than it would be in higher grades.

Roughly 42,000 kids attend preschool in New York.

The two-year study was done by Yale University researcher Walter Gilliam.
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man thats just wrong see what happens when people don't disiplin there kids.

What the heck are these kids doing to get themselves expelled in the first place youd think the worst a preschooler would do is throw a major tempertantrum..but then agian it is new york .. no offense yall but its not like new york is the safest place in the world

i definatly wouldnt call it the safest after 9/11

There is nothing to be afraid of in New York it aint dangerous its the seveth safest state in America and the #1 safest large state in America. Plus Amherst, NY was the safest city in America last year. And by 2009 New York should be the safest in america if our governor's plan for the state stays head strong.

Why would they get expelled in the first place? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

that still isnt very comforting obviously it isnt that safe if the shcools feel threatened enogh to have the pre-school students expelled

How is pre-schoolers relevant to the fact that New York is one of the top ten safest states in America and the #1 safest large state in America.

And if you read the post you would have noticed that pre school is not required in New York so a teacher, dean or principle can expel a kid if they just feel like its not worth the hassle. i would if a kid was annoying me i'll ship him off to his mommy, come on you know how 3 to 4 yr olds are they don't listen to nobody. its in their biology to actively experience life, its called observing, modelling and trial and error.

exactly

You can blame the kids, but I blame the parents. Lazy people that sit on the couch, and drink all day and let their children run wild. At that age, they are still learning from their parents, a great deal more then any other source on earth. Someone needs a swift kick in the arse, if you ask me.

Oh well, I never even did the pre-school thing. I live in New York City, so, it wasn't required. Pre-school is extremely unimportant, anyway.

You really need to tell that to my brother geez he has a problem child!

Did anyone else notice that the numbers in the article don't add up? They said that "more than six hundred kids get kicked out of pre-school", that in New York "nine out of every thousand kids" get kicked out, and that "roughly 42,000 kids attend pre-school in New York". But nine times 42 is only 378, not more than six hundred.

Makes you wonder about the accuracy of that study. Maybe they should be doing a study on their math skills!

Ya gotta admit, our math is in NY is BAD -- look at how many kids failed the Math Regents last year! Everyone made a huge fuss over it, over how many kids weren't going to graduate because of it...yadda yadda. My Mom-in-law is a Special Ed teacher in a smaller town, and at her board meeting, the teachers were told that the State had made a few changes to the curriculum; Kindergarten kids were no longer *required* to learn anything more than the hour and 1/2 hour on a clock. They also would no longer need to count higher than 20.
You know what she and the other teachers told the "higher-ups"? They would still teach the same things they'd been teaching, whether or not they were "required". Sheesh. Talk about dumbing down our kids. But then on the other side, some kids I know come home with 2 hrs. of homework when they're 9. Their bookbags are already almost as heavy as mine were Senior year.

Okay, now that I've ranted on...point is, yeah, make stuff challenging for kids, but don't fry their brain out *before* they even make it to high school. It's all about balance, y'know?

~Scarlet~

They are only pre-school children, they only barely understand the concept of good and bad, how can they do anything horrible enough to be expelled?!!?

Believe me, I've seen a few manipulative, sneaky and downright mean three year olds. The parents coddled them and believed everything they said so they used it to their advantage.

One of the main reasons I never wanted kids, but, of course if I'd had them they'd have been perfect.

So?

"So?"

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what are they expelled for?

I think they understand the difference between good and bad alot more than they are credited for. I do know that alot of the problem with children of any age is discipline. Nowadays, the worst punishment children get for doing something wrong is time out in their bedroom!

You know what??? If I went to new york in preschool i would have been expelled the first day, I used to bite people...lol, maybe cuz they would call me beaver!! GRRR I hated that...i had to have braces in 2nd grade.....**shudders**

ummm i wont ask about that...

A lot of preschoolers are very agressive. Especially if they have never really been socialized by daycare, etc. They bite, hit, steal, and pitch fits. You would also not believe how many kids get sent to preschool who are still not fully pottytrained, and I don't really think that should lead to expulsion, but it could cause a plethora of other discipline problems.

They should be socialized and taught by the parents, not daycare. It's the parent's responsibility to raise healthy children, not the preschools.

^^ Yay!

Socialized by daycare? THAT is the problem with kids... the fact that parents aren't raising them anymore. Also, the quality of parenting & disclipline is dwindling.

AMEN! People just let their kids walk all over them. Unruly toddlers are the norm now. I have two wonderful teen-agers and they are wonderful partly because of the way they were raised by myself and their father! Not by a daycare....

I think that you miss my point. I am talking about children that are rarely if ever in contact with other children. When they are they are often not made to share or interact nicely. So when they go to school for the first time they have no idea that they are not the center of the classroom universe. I think that parenting is very important, but it is also important for young children to understand social interaction with children their own age. They must be allowed to interact in a situation where they may or may not get their way. This way the learn to compromise, share, and generally play nice. Daycare is not a bad thing if it is researched well, and the parents choose one that is positive and loving. My 15 month old daughter is in daycare and is loving and well-behaved. It is a combination of influences.

When in New York, do as New Yorkers do. I guess...

I don't think daycare is bad, I just think it's not daycare's responsibility to raise a child. I'm also not saying you don't raise your child right. There are a lot of disciplines that daycares are not allowed or too scared to enforce. It's a parents responsibility to raise and socialize a child no one else's. That's just my opinion.

Why can children only learn to share with other children? Shouldn't they learn to share with everyone they come across - including their parents? If a parent does not teach their child to share with them... and share with their child... how can they expect a child to share with other children?
My kids have been sharing since they could comprehend anything... and definatley before they got involved in social activities with a big group of kids their own ages.

Had to edit to add that I'm not saying daycare is evil! It just seems to me that some/many parents are using it to raise their children and NOT doing their part. If a parent is doing their part outside of the daycare or preschool, there won't be a problem IN the daycare or preschool.

I agree totally. Just because your kids don't have 8 brothers or sisters doesn't mean you can't teach them how to share or behave socially. You shouldn't be spending 24 hours a day, 7 days a week locked alone inside a house with your child so opportunities for socialization and sharing should present themselves.