greattenchim
May 18 2005, 07:35 PM
I looking info on the willow hotel! it in california! it built over a mine i believe! supposely u can hear from time to time at the place knocking on pipes like the miners are try to do S.O.S.messages or something like that! the dead miners are call the tommy knockers! i think the miners were killed in cave in! if i remeber right from the tv show on sci fi! i saw them say people there think the miners died when they found the gates of hell!
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 07:46 PM
Anyone else having a hard time reading that? Hold while I grab my gibberish to english decoder ring. I'll be right back
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 07:51 PM
What city in California for starters?
greattenchim
May 18 2005, 07:57 PM
let me see if i got it written down somewhere!
greattenchim
May 18 2005, 08:04 PM
in jamestown, california
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 08:13 PM
Its now called the Palm Hotel

Link:
http://www.palmhotel.com
greattenchim
May 18 2005, 08:18 PM
my mistake it not a hotel any more forgot the second floor of place burnt down! sorry forgot to post this earlier! the willow hotel was converted to steakhouse/bar! sorry been about a year since i saw the show on sci-fi that show it! that place ^ i dont think it is it!
i think the show it was called "Patrick Macnee ghost stories" or maybe it was called "Patrick Macnee real ghost stories"! something close to one of those!
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 08:25 PM
I called them and they confirmed it was built on the site of the Willow Hotel. They do not have a website, but do sell books on the Willow. You can call and buy one.

Willow Steakhouse
Located on Highway 108, the Steakhouse serves lunch and dinner seven days a week. Featuring cheese fondue, Harris Ranch steaks, lobster, prime rib, fine desserts, full service bar and foothill's wine. Reservations recommended. Banquets available for groups up to 50. 209.984.3403
greattenchim
May 18 2005, 08:27 PM
thank u for looking!
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 08:27 PM
Jamestown ~ Founded by Colonel George James, a San Francisco lawyer, this town was destroyed recently in 1966, but there's still much to see. A goldmine runs directly below the Willow Hotel, which once hosted many dignitaries, including President William McKinley in 1901. The true charm of the mining towns comes through loud and clear here, with Jamestown's covered-balcony architecture that is so typical of the Gold Rush era. A number of 1850's brick, stone, and adobe structures still stand.
greattenchim
May 18 2005, 08:30 PM
ur on the right track! u found the place!
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 08:32 PM
City: Jamestown
Location: Willow Steak House
Type of Phenomena: Malevolent Inhuman Spirit (violent pyro), and Visiting Spirits
Manifestation: Fires break out here and surrounding buildings. Several Spirit images have been seen in the bar and dining area.
Directions: Off Hwy 49 in the Sierra foothills. On the corner of Main and Willow Streets., 95327. Phone: 209-984-3998.
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 08:39 PM
Jamestown - The Willow Steak House - The Willow Hotel reportedly has been haunted since the 1800s. Under the Hotel an old gold mine caved in and killed 23 miners, and now the hotel is haunted by these miners.
ForRizzle
May 18 2005, 08:48 PM
The Willow Steak House, Jamestown, Calif. "The finest steakhouse in the
Mother Lode with an 1800s ambience." Modern chrome. "Established in 1862,
The Willow is world renowned for its legendary ghosts. The TV show Sightings
featured The Willow and its ghosts in 1995." Printed by The Willow.
greattenchim
May 18 2005, 08:51 PM
forgot it was on sightning too! lol
NME_locus
May 18 2005, 08:58 PM
damn...haha...ForRizzles like a freakin information machine..
coldethyl
May 19 2005, 09:36 AM
now i want a steak...
DJ_Quinn
May 19 2005, 09:54 AM
QUOTE(coldethyl @ May 19 2005, 09:36 AM)
now i want a steak...
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But it might come back to haunt you!
coldethyl
May 19 2005, 10:09 AM
too true!
and california is a bit too far to travel for it!
what is the deal w/them being called tommyknockers??
DJ_Quinn
May 19 2005, 10:12 AM
"Cornish miners from Cornwall, England were some of the best mining men in the business, they simply had years of experience at tunneling and mining that the 49er’s lacked. In the diggings they represented as close to a mining engineer as one could find. Their sudden success in the mines encouraged mine owners to ask if they knew of anyone else back home with mining experience who’d be interested in coming to work in the California mines. The common answer among the Cornish was… “Well, me cousin Jack over in Cornwall wouldst come could ye pay is boat ride.” So many Cornish miners made their way to California this way, that it wasn’t long before the Americans had taken to calling em’ all… “Cousin Jacks.”
The Cornish miners were highly respected and sought after making them the authority in many Northern California mines. As they educated many on mining they also inadvertently introduced the Tommyknockers to California. The Tommyknockers were part of Cornish legend and lore
which still survives today in our own mining culture and history.
According to legend the Tommyknockers were the underground cousins of the Piskies and Vogs
which lived in the English moors. They were well known for mischief, colorful pranks, jokes, and being highly spirited! They are tiny characters who dress like little miners and perform many mining duties while underground working alongside the other men. To the cousin Jacks the Tommyknockers were no less important then a candle and double jack. They believed in the Tommyknockers although not one of em’ could say they’d actually seen one.
Regardless the cousin Jacks refused to enter any mine until the mining company assured them the
Tommyknockers were on duty. In time mine owners gave way to the custom as simply a matter of doing business with the Cornish. Over the years the Tommyknockers were blamed for many a prank, while being credited with saving the lives of many miners. If someone’s hammer was missing it was the Tommyknockers… If a cousin Jack got out just before the tunnel failed, you can bet it was the Tommyknockers who raised hell, got him out and saved his life.
In 1956 California’s mining industry came to a grinding halt. Devote believers (mostly Cornish descendants) lobbied the general manager of one of California’s largest and oldest mines, to release the Tommyknockers from employment in order so they could be transferred to other working mines in the California Mother Lode. The mining company agree."
NME_locus
May 19 2005, 04:11 PM
you know, what's cool is that new movie "white noise", one of the messages from the other side sent as an "evp" said " willow street or avenue". it was a topic for a good section of the movie. it's a pretty good movie and good special features too.
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