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Sho me Spirit
Hey I am new to this sight and think its great. I am truly obsessed with the story about the "ENTITY" I saw the movie about a year ago for the 1st time and I was baffled. I also saw the documentary footage on the discovery channel. It was unlike anything I have ever seen. I was really never a true 100% believer until I saw and read the stories on this case. Is any one else familiar with this case?

I know this is lots to read but if you are not familiar with the case here is the breakdown on the story. Tell me what you think original.gif


Most of us will remember the movie entitled THE ENITY, but how much of it was true? Actually, most of it... Well maybe not the ending... Carlotta Moran now probably in her 60s apparently still reports such anomalies. The physical attacks don't take place anymore, however, this particular case has become known world wide and its generally down to one particular investigator. That man was Kerry Gaynor, a parapsychologist from Los Angeles who specialised in the study of hauntings and poltergeist infestations. He stumbled on this spectacular investigation whilst visiting a book store...

Kerry Gaynor explains...

It was 1974 when Gaynor began to investigate the Culver City, California, haunting. "At the time I had a colleague named Barry Taff," said Gaynor. 'We were working under the auspices of Dr. Thelma Moss, but Barry and I did most of the research on this case." Gaynor notes that Moss was a prominent UCLA parapsychologist who is now retired.

Gaynor and Taff made an appointment with the woman from the bookstore to discuss her case. Gaynor said the first time they visited the woman they conducted a two-hour interview. But Gaynor knew that she was holding something back. I kept pushing her," said Gaynor. "Finally she said that a ghost had raped and beat her.

'We laughed when we left her home, and I thought she was probably off her rocker. But she called me back a few days later and said that several people visiting her had seen an apparition, And this is what we're always looking for independent verification of the phenomena.

"I'm a scientist and that's how I approach it. I don't take their stories at face value. Their story is the beginning and I don't discount it, but I'm there to experience the phenomena and document it."

The Entity case was to become one of the most famous in paranormal research history. It was so well-documented, in fact, that a movie was made about it. The 1983 film The Entity starred Barbara Hershey and was loosely based on the Culver City haunting. Gaynor and Taff served as technical advisors on the film.

Visual Evidence :

The second time Gaynor and Taff visited the Entity house, things began to happen. Although they never saw the apparition, they witnessed visual phenomena. "We were seeing little pops of light," said Gaynor. "They would happen quickly. We would try to shoot the camera, but they were happening too quickly and we just couldn't catch them. We were shooting with a Polaroid and with a 35mm camera."

I was standing in the kitchen talking to the woman's 16year-old son when a lower cabinet door slammed open and a pan came flying out," said Gaynor. It flew out and landed about three or four feet from the cabinet. I immediately tore the cabinet apart to see if there were any tricks, or if anyone was hiding in the cabinets. But there was nothing. And that's when everything started.

"The lady screamed, 'It's in the bedroom. We ran in there and that's when all the lights started happening. Thats when we got the Polaroid shots.

"The lady shouted, 'The ghost is in the comer.'We snapped the picture, but it was bleached out and not very interesting.

"She shouted again, 'It's in the corner.' And again the photo was bleached. At this point, I thought the camera wasn't working. So I took two control pictures. I asked her if the ghost was gone. She said yes. The picture came out perfectly. A few seconds later I took another one. Perfect picture.

"But then we got the most interesting Polaroid. The woman said, 'It is right in front of my face.' Those were her exact words. So we took a shot. And in the photo you can see the curtains and the buttons on her dress, but her whole face is obliterated. We took a second picture when she once again said, 'It's right in front of my face.' Amazingly, her face was obliterated again, but you could see details in the rest of the picture.

"At this point I wanted another control picture. So I asked if the ghost was gone. When she said it was gone, the picture I took was perfect."

"On the third night we decided to start with a seance in the bedroom," said Gaynor. The walls of the bedroom, however, were covered with chipped and uneven paint. Some of Gaynor's colleagues had commented that the uneven paint created images in his photographs. So the researchers covered the walls entirely with black poster board, so that nobody could make that claim again. They also numbered the black paper boards with a magnetic orientation and a number.

"Then the lights appeared," said Gaynor. 9 would call out, 'All right, blink three times on board number two for yes. Blink twice on board number five for no.' It would blink on the exact board that I asked it to. At that point the level of excitement really increased, because it seemed like we were communicating with something intelligent.

"But I was very concerned that somebody was faking it by projecting light onto the wall. So I said to it, 'If you're really here, come off the wall. 'I didn't think anything would happen. But then the light pulled right out of the wall and floated into the middle of the room. It started spinning and twisting and expanding in different directions simultaneously. I had nine professional photographers shooting every angle of that room.

It was extraordinary because it was floating in the middle of the room and the light was dimensional. It is very difficult to fake something like that. If you project light, you have to project it onto a flat surface. You can't project light into empty space unless you have some kind of very sophisticated laser system."

Gaynor said this was not likely a sophisticated hoax because this house had twice been condemned by the city, and the investigators had sealed off the entire bedroom. Nobody could go in or out during the photo session.

"What we saw was not what ended up in the photograph," said Gaynor. "We were seeing balls of light, but the photo shows arcs of light over the woman's head."

Taff, Gaynor's colleague at the time and now a Los Angeles parapsychologist and writer, confirms witnessing this phenomena at the Entity house. Taff described the lights as three, dimensional greenish-yellow, to-white balls of light. "We never saw arcs of light. We saw balls of light," said Taff. "However, the camera captured arcs.'; The team captured a spectacular 35mm photo showing reverse arcs of light over the woman's head.

This photo was published in Popular Photography magazine. "Popular Photography has never published a ghost photograph before or since," said Gaynor. "But they published this one." This photograph was also broadcast on the television show Sightings in 1992.

Gaynor said he was not able to rid the woman of the assaulting ghost. "I'm not an exorcist," said Gaynor. I document the phenomena. I research the phenomena, and I do a lot of counseling with these people."

The woman described the attacking entity as a solid male figure that she did not recognise. So how did the woman know it was a ghost? "Because after the ghost assaulted her," said Gaynor, "it faded away."

"There were actually three apparitions according to her account," Gaynor stated. "Two would hold the woman down and the third would rape, her. It was horrible. She would call me in the middle of the night screaming, and I would go over there and she would be all beaten up. She had black and blue marks all over her body." But Gaynor never witnessed the attacks nor saw the apparitions in solid form.

Gaynor said, however, that he and several of his colleagues did witness the formation of a full-figured apparition. 'Ve saw the head take shape and then the shoulders. The light extended down to the ground until it became a full humanoid figure of greenish-white light. Then it just vanished, almost as if somebody pulled the plug. It didn't fade away. It just vanished. Everybody was completely in awe and silent as we watched this happen."

Taff adds, "After the apparition disappeared, two young men assisting our investigation passed out and had to be carried from the room."

"The question, of course is, Were the attacks done by a person, or were they done by a ghost?" said Gaynor. "And there is no way to distinguish between the two. The apparition didn't rape anyone else except the woman. These attacks were very personal.

"The attacks only happened very late at night. One night the woman's 16-year-old son heard his mother screaming. He ran into her bedroom and saw his mother being thrown around on the bed. When the son reached over to help her, something hit him on the head and threw him across the room. He broke his arm."

Gaynor noted an unusual coincidence. When the movie The Entity was being filmed, the actor playing the role of the son broke the same arm while filming this particular scene.

The woman was attacked about 15 times during the ten-week investiga,tion. "But she got stronger," said Gaynor. "And she was able to realise that she wasn't crazy and that there really was something going on. She got stronger, and in my opinion, she outlasted it."

The woman moved five times, but the attacking entity followed her. She eventually moved further away. "As she moved," Gaynor said, "the phenomena diminished, and after about two years the attacks stopped altogether,"

Gaynor said he cannot prove ghosts exist. But what is proof? "A ghost in a jar," said Gaynor, "or at least that's what the scientific community would want."

Gaynor said he doesn't feel any need to convince the world to believe in ghosts. I want the public to know about it, but I don't have an agenda. I'm not interested in standing on a pulpit and saying, 'You must believe in ghosts.' Something is going on that demands our attention. I'm much more interested in figuring it out."
Ziggy Stardust
Woa... I didn't know a ghost could physically injure someone like that. blink.gif
coldethyl
i read that book when i was about 11 and it scared me to death. my mom had been reading it and i started reading it while she was at work. it didn't help much that soon after they showed the exorcist on tv. scarred for life i tell ya.... sad.gif
DJ_Quinn
Very creepy! I don't think I ever saw the movie.
Dr1273
I did see this movie. And yes I do believe in the exsistance of an entity as such. I believe they would be considered to be an incubus. A male demon believed to lie on sleeping persons and to have sexual intercourse with sleeping women
Hoagy
QUOTE(Dr1273 @ May 19 2005, 08:49 AM)
I did see this movie. And yes I do believe in the exsistance of an entity as such. I believe they would be considered to be an incubus. A male demon believed to lie on sleeping persons and to have sexual intercourse with sleeping women
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how do you sign up for that job?? huh.gif

I dunno, she was quite repressed sexually wasn't she?
DJ_Quinn
QUOTE(Dr1273 @ May 19 2005, 02:49 PM)
I did see this movie. And yes I do believe in the exsistance of an entity as such. I believe they would be considered to be an incubus. A male demon believed to lie on sleeping persons and to have sexual intercourse with sleeping women
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I thought that an incibus was different, sort of half-animal. This story says that there where 3, and 2 of them held her down while 1 of them raped her.
That's really, really creapy!
Sho me Spirit
The thought of going through that just puts chills down my spine. huh.gif

I think this case has the most documentation of a haunting. I wonder what it was about her that they chose her? Was she at the wrong place at the wrong time or is she the "beacon of light in a dark room" that the entity saw and chose as his victim. The thought of being physically attacked by something you can not see is so scary to me.

How would one defend themselves against that? Very scary. I have had many different encounters with the paranormal but was never touched or harmed in any way. Scared to death but never harmed.
BirdsMom
This is my all time favorite movie and yes I believe it happened. The research I did made me think it was someone she once knew, like a boyfriend or husband. When I went back and watched again there were suggestions this might be the case. I finally found and read some documents and reports made by the reasearch team. This woman had been in a relationship with a guy that was abusive. Don't know if they were together at the time of his death or not. (long time ago) However this person had made threats along the line of; if he couldn't have her no one could. He was also known to be a heavy user of drugs and alcohol. I feel that it was a unique case where the woman was so controlled by this man that even though he was dead he was able to know exactly what to do to keep her under his control, until these people decided to help her believe in herself. I think it was an unusual case but very real.
jeceris
i'm off to rent it
nativechick1989
I seen the movie, but never read the book. I'll have to check it out, because the book always gives more insight to the story.

The movie was great and the actors portrayed the characters brilliantly. It had me shivering a few times - some scary scenes!
KevinM
The Entity is an interesting case. First it was no ghost(if the activity is true) it was in fact (as has been already stated) an incubus (which is a demon that takes the shape of a man to assault women records exist going back litteraly thousands of years in both Christianity and Judaism by one name or another).l Its also worth noting that the investigators got involved after the sexual side of the attacks died down and are divided on there oppinion of it or its cuases(I know this because I"ve cohosted interviews with both the main investigators for radio). Personally I believe what was reported.
Tia
I saw this movie years ago and it was very creepy.

I think the thing that left the lasting impression is the fact it was based on a real story, and as such could happen to anyone. unsure.gif
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