Hello Everyone

i have been very interested in the field of ghosts/spirits/demons for a number of years and have always enjoyed hearing peoples theories and stories etc

However after years of an interest in this type of thing I have finally concluded that it is nonsense.
So much so, that i would like to openly challenge anybody to come up with the scariest most spine chilling location with the "darkest energy" they can find i will quite happily stay the night provided:

1) you are the owner of the property or have their permission

2) Its not a building that is not structurally safe

3) the dodgy area isn't some sort of spine chiller for reasons such as actual physical harm from muggers or physical people/items (i.e Brixton bus shelter)

4) it is somewhere in Great Britian (unless of course you wish to fly me out there )

5) you are not criminally insane and its in the middle of a wood (where my calls to the police cannot be heard)

please all suggestions would be very welcomed.

are you gonna video tape the entire thing?
i'm a skeptic myself, but i'd still get the willies!

If you could take a video camera, or a digital camera that would be great. Good Luck

Yeah i will be taking a video camera. (if i ever find a place that is)

Also if there is anyone else who would like to join me please do get in touch.
the more the merrier.

i'd love to go but i'm leaving england beginning july, so i'll have to miss out on this one.
there are a lot of 'haunted' places over here but the hard thing is going to be finding a place that someone owns who will let you spend the night there. what about the bell hotel in thetford england? well, it's not really evil i guess, just haunted.....but you'd be able to stay there legally.

How about a haunted castle in Ireland. I know of just such a place.

Yes, i also think that will be a bit of a problem.

So if any anyone could help? a place with a highly active polterguiest would be ideal.

has anyone got any suggestions as to what to do to test the place out i.e is there anything that is supposed to get the "spirits mad" or ritual that is considered reallty taboo to do in such a place.

Really I'm looking to open pandoras box (not literally) at one of these sites, and then prove that nothing happens (which i assure you will not)

What about organisations that may allow me to join a "Ghost hunt" so to speak, i have a degree in Physics and so can offer some skills to the group?

haunted castle?

can one stay in such a place (legally) will i be able to wander around at night to the scariest rooms (probably the armoury)

Sure, if you have permission. This one is privatley owned. It can be organized.

"Over 400 years ago in what is now known as the "Bloody Chapel" a shocking murder occurred. Leap Castle was then a stronghold of the O'Carroll family, powerful Irish Princes, Chieftains of the area.

In 1532, on the death of the O'Carroll Chieftain, a fierce rivalry for the leadership erupted within the family. The bitter fight for power turned brother against brother. One of the brothers was a priest. The O'Carroll priest was holding mass for a group of his family (in what is now called the "Bloody Chapel"). While chanting the holy rites, his rival brother burst into the chapel plunging his sword into his brother. Fatally wounding him, the butchered priest fell across the altar and died in front of his family.

The heinous act of brother killing brother and the blasphemy of a sacred mass cut short by such an evil event sent an echo of misery ringing throughout the castle.

Another source of evil was found at Leap Castle that may have compounded and nurtured the sprit of the elemental. A hidden ubliet (a dungeon) was found off the bloody chapel. It was a small room with a drop floor. Those who were forgotten within this room suffered unimaginable pain and misery until their death. Prisoners would be pushed into the room to fall through the floor and land on a spike eight feet below. If you were not lucky enough to die quickly on the spike, you died of starvation in an odorless room while the aroma of food and the sounds of merriment drifted up from the rooms below. A narrow window would let you watch those who came and went in freedom from the castle. Around c.1900 workmen who where hired to clean out the ubliet made a hideous discovery, human skeletons laid piled on top of each other. It took three full cart loads to remove all of the bones. Among the bones workmen found a pocket watch made in the 1840's. It is not certain if the dungeon was still in use then.

Because of its extremely bloody history Leap Castle has always had a reputation of being haunted, a reputation so strong local people avoided it at night. Completely gutted by fire, Leap Castle was boarded up and it's gates were pad locked for over 70 years. Locals have described seeing the windows at the top of the castle "light up for a few seconds as if many candles were brought into the room" late at night. The castle laid in ruin for years.

Shortly after Leap's dungeons gruesome discovery, a psychic disturbance may have caused the emergence of the elemental spirit. In 1659 ownership of Leap Castle passed in marriage from the O'Carroll family to an English family, the Darbys. The Darby family turned Leap into their family home, with improvements and additions and landscaped gardens . In the late 19th century descendants Johanthan and Mildred Darby were looking forward to raising their family here. The occult was the fashion of the day, and Mildred Darby did some innocent dabbling, despite the castle's history and reputation for being haunted. Mildred's dabbling with magic awakened the elemental with ferocious velocity.

In 1909, Mildred Darby wrote an article for the Journal Occult Review, describing her terrifying ordeal. "I was standing in the Gallery looking down at the main floor, when I felt somebody put a hand on my shoulder. The thing was about the size of a sheep. Thin guanting shadowy..., it's face was human, to be more accurate inhuman. Its lust in its eyes which seemed half decomposed in black cavities stared into mine. The horrible smell one hundred times intensified came up into my face, giving me a deadly nausea. It was the smell of a decomposing corpse."

The elemental is thought to be a primitive ghost that attaches itself to a particular place. It is often malevolent, terrifying and unpredictable. After Mrs. Darby's experiments in the black arts, Leap Castle has never been the same. Haunting plague Leap leaving a sinister air throughout the castle. The Darbys remained at Leap until 1922. Being the home of an English family, it became the target of the Irish struggle for independence. Destroyed by bombs, completely looted, nothing but a burned out shell remained. The Darby's were driven out.

In the 1970's Leap Castle was purchased by an Australian, who had a white witch brought in from Mexico to exorcise the castle. She spent many hours in the bloody chapel, when she emerged she explained that the spirits at Leap Castle were no longer malevolent, but they wished to remain.

In the 1990's the castle was sold to the current owners. They were aware of the castle's troubled history. Shortly after moving in they began restoration of the castle. During which time a "freak accident" left the owner with a broken kneecap delaying restoration work on the castle for nearly a year. One year after his "accident" the owner was back at work restoring his castle when the ladder he was standing on suddenly tilted backwards away from the wall causing him to jump several stories resulting in a broken ankle. Both were strange accidents.

The owners say they would be happy to share the castle with the spirits as long as there are no more "occurrences".

Here's another history:

"Leap Castle...the most haunted castle in all of Ireland.

The History
The dark, brooding shell that is Leap Castle was once the seat of power of the hostile, warmongering O'Carrolls, The Princes of Ely. The castle sits on a huge, ancient rock, and recently, it has been suggested by some archaeologists, that this in turn may rest upon a ley line.

The O'Carrolls were the last of the big clans to surrender to the British in the seventeenth century, and they leave behind a fearsome reputation of murder, betrayal and power-struggles, as brother fought brother to control their large empire. One of the most brutal examples of this took place in the great tower. Situated above the main hall, the great tower, built in the fourteenth century, is also known as the bloody chapel. It is here that Teige O'Carroll (known as `one-eye') slew his brother while he was praying at the altar. Passers-by over the years, have seen the window of this empty tower illuminated with a strange light.

In one corner of this tower is an oubliette (a secret hole which people were thrown down and left to die). After the house was destroyed by fire, in 1922, three cartloads of bones were recovered from here. Below the keep stretch a maze of passages hewn from the rock itself, leading to a number of dank dungeons and strange bricked up chambers. Many, many skeletons, of all kinds, have been discovered here. The last owners of the castle, before it's partial destruction, were completely unaware of these dungeons.

The castle was acquired by the Darby family in the seventeenth century, when one of their daughters married into the O'Carrolls. Her husband, was a staunch Royalist member of the O'Carroll clan, and was nicknamed by his enemies as `The Wild Captain.' This violent, terrible man was said to have hidden a large fortune somewhere in the castle, with the help of two of his servants. To keep the secret, he then callously had them murdered. The captain was later arrested for treason, and by the time of his release had completely lost his mind, along with his memory of the treasure's whereabouts. It is said to remain in it's hiding place, somewhere in that terrible castle, to this day.

In later years, Lord Darby, so troubled and angered by continuing rumours of bricked up bodies, had a wall in the castle torn down, only to discover the skeletons of three unfortunate souls. The lord, to the surprise of others, had them bricked up again, claiming that his ancestors had probably put them there for a good reason.

Leap Castle was burnt down by the terrorist organisation, the IRA, in 1922, and then later ransacked by mobs. There have been various owners of the castle since then, and all, it seems, have suffered some form of misfortune or financial ruin.


The Ghosts
During the hall's years under the Darbys, overnight guests frequently experienced the terrifying spectre of a tall, gaunt woman, dressed in a red gown, seemingly illuminated from within, with her hand raised menacingly above her head. These poor unfortunate witnesses always awoke in the middle of the night prior to this vision, with a terrible and violent feeling of cold in their heart. The suggestions are she was a murdered O'Carroll princess, but whoever she was, the stateroom was always shunned by the castle's servants.

By far the worst of all the castle's ghosts, however, is a demonic, foul-smelling spectre. This hideous elemental, half-human, half-beast, lurks mainly on the tower stairs, and is believed to be the embodiment of all the evil and murderous deeds that have taken place there."

So......Leap Castle......fun place.

Here is a little bit more detailed info on the lovely ubliet:

"Another source of evil was found at Leap Castle that may have compounded and nutured the spirt of the elemental. A hidden ubliet (a dungeon) was found off the bloody chapel. It was a small room with a drop floor. Those who were forgotten within this room suffered unimaginable pain and misery until their death. Prisoners would be pushed into the room to fall through the floor and land on a spike eight feet below. If you were not lucky enough to die quickly on the spike, you died of starvation in a doorless room while the aroma of food and the sounds of merriment drifted up from the rooms below. A narrow window would let you watch those who came and went in freedom from the castle. Around c.1900 workmen who where hired to clean out the ubliet made a hideous discovery, human skeletons laid piled on top of each other. It took three full cart loads to remove all of the bones. Among the bones workmen found a pocket watch made in the 1840's. It is not certain if the dungeon was still in use then."

This place sounds excellent!

Although i gather from the reports that the last time somethimg happened (if the accident is to be believed paranormal that is) was in 1990 thats 15 years ago!

i will look into this and try and contact the owner, but i doubt he will let a "stranger" into his personal dwelling after all, im not sure i would be comfortable letting a total random man to stay the night in my house!

Where are you located desk light? I live in Ireland, and I know the castle is open to the public during the day. Staying oovernight would have to be arranged with the owner. PM me if you want me to look into it.

DJ

i live in dorset so i am pretty far away!

I would be willing to go but i will have to wait a bit longer to arrange it, if i was going somewhere in the south i could just do it in a quick weekend. but this will take more planning

Thanks for the offer i will look into it (logistically)and get back to you on it!

You're not that far away. I haven't been inside the castle before, but I'm going to visit it sometime soon.

i wish i could offer something but i am 1/2 a world away!

my gf swears this place is haunted though:
http://www.bctravel.com/cherrybank.html

Here's a link for Leap Castle:
http://www.simonmarsden.co.uk/books-Phanto...sles-Sample.htm

I live very close.

This wont prove it to you though, ghosts probably wouldnt do anything in front of you (dont ask why,skeptics just dont seem to get rusults,not open minded enough etc etc)

You should try evp although that might not even work but you have to be open minded, dont listen to a bunch of experiences by people talking about a ghost in there house or whatever

Think about it why are you a skeptic?Watching too many movies i think

Check out "Scariest Places on Earth", where they send a group of people to spend a night in a haunted location. They also equip you with the gear you need to capture your experiences.

Hey, have you guys ever heard of a myth of a place in Guatamala where theres a cave that only holy men are allowed or trained to enter. They wear these robes with bells all over them and a rope tied around their waste. as the enter this cave, the bells make noise, and if it ever stops jingling thwe other priests pull him out because they are dead.

never heard of it. is it a type of spiritual conviction test akin to how some christian fundamentalists stick their hands in rattlesnake pits?

QUOTE "Think about it why are you a skeptic?Watching too many movies i think"

Well i will tell you why i am sceptic, (please nobody take offense)

i am sceptic becuase there is a massive huge amount of evidence suggesting that paranormal claims are complete nonsense.

using the "open minded" bargaining chip is a cop out of any justification for not seeing these things i.e you have to have a special mind to see, >>>>.TRANSLATION you are pyscologically fooling yourself .

I put it to you good people, that the argument of not being able to see/experience thing due to a closed mind is wrong and it has a simple proof;

If the only thing stopping us from seeing the undead is a conditioned mind, then children would be seeing the dead as clear as day (a babies mind is the most un conditioned open minded we will ever experience)

do you regularly hear of almost all infants seeing the DEAD in record numbers....NO!

seeing/experiencing paranormal things is the mind not functioning properly in a similar way to insanity (although much more common) the only reason we can condemn people as insane is that we can disprove (beyond any doubt) that they are talking rubbish.

the paranormal cannot be disproved (by its very nature) so these peoples opinions cannot be written off so easily.

I genuinely believe that the paranormal is nothing and people are unknowingly defrauding themselves.

Hence i have no hesitation (except time and money) in staying in the scariest place i can find, i would even like to be proven wrong (ghosts and an after life are a very appealing prospect )

Talking of Guatamalia, I have a Guatamalian juggling ball...but no I haven't heard of what you are talking about.