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zandore
QUOTE(Loge Posted Today @ 10:40 AM )
Don’t sound’s waves penetrate the ear and go into the brain?
But if no one else hears them.....
Loge
QUOTE(zandore @ May 24 2005, 09:45 AM)

QUOTE(Loge Posted Today @  10:40 AM )
Don’t sound’s waves penetrate the ear and go into the brain?
But if no one else hears them..... blink.gif
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The exterior is the reflection of the interior. Emmanuel Kant! w00t.gif

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zandore
Kant either! tongue.gif
101
QUOTE(zandore @ May 24 2005, 02:58 PM)
Kant either! tongue.gif
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WELL CAN YOU HEAR ME? wub.gif
Loge
QUOTE(101 @ May 24 2005, 10:03 AM)
QUOTE(zandore @ May 24 2005, 02:58 PM)
Kant either! tongue.gif
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WELL CAN YOU HEAR ME? wub.gif
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God
Oh God
May the light of Christ
Illuminate their heads
The way your solar spirit illuminates my soul

Papa, can you hear me?
Papa, can you see me?
Papa, can you find me in the night?
Papa, are you near me?
Papa, can you hear me?
Papa, can you help me not be frightened?

Looking at the skies, I seem to see a million eyes
Which ones are yours?
Where are you now that yesterday has waved goodbye
And closed its doors?
The night is so much darker
The wind is so much colder
The world I see is so much bigger now that I'm alone
101
Oh Loge that is so nice. I liked that. I think we all are afraid he doesn't hear our crys but he does. He just doesn't answer them always. This is the beauty of it...
TheOriginalF
QUOTE(hyperactive @ May 23 2005, 09:21 PM)
IMO, music is diminished (to put it nicely) when it is tainted with the human voice.

pure music can express its meaning clearly on its own without a narrative.  in today's music, the narrative is an excuse to not make music (after all, they don't want real music when marketing to the masses - lcd prevails)
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I agree Hyperactive, music can be diminished by the human voice...in some aspects. The human voice can be a viable instrument if used properly, it comes down to weather or not you think a voice is capable of making music the same way a violin or piano does. I have heard very touching and beautiful music with a human voice, a whole myriad of operas come to mind, and there are musicians in the popular realm that are quite capable of mixing great music with lyrics. You just have to know where to find them, as a matter of fact most of the modern music I listen to you can find a nice mixture of lyrical and instrumental compositions.

The problem with this whole discussion is we have to define what we mean by modern music, the sea is just too vast to cover every composer with one blanket term. I do agree that most bands in the popular realm are utter garbage, but that is because the record labels are pushing artist that don't have any real talent for the sake of a few one hit wonders. Art can't truly flourish in a capitalist setting...at some point the art will be compromised for money, and that is the true root of evil in modern music.


Me_Again
Loge,
What is that metal sound in the monks chanting ? Is it an instrument, copper ? I wonder why my brain doesn't seem to like it wacko.gif I like the chanting but that metal sound ....anyway, thanks for answering my question wub.gif
Loge
QUOTE(101 @ May 24 2005, 10:54 AM)
Oh Loge that is so nice. I liked that. I think we all are afraid he doesn't hear our crys but he does. He just doesn't answer them always. This is the beauty of it...
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I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness; Make straight the way of the Lord!

Q-La
What music will the classical masters write if they are born today? Will they use the chaotic element of rock music to work for them?? Actually I think all audio orders and rhythms are neutral in nature but to the psyche of the listener they mean different things. Also happened that rock /punk /metal etc. are more frequently used to express elements from the lower spectrum end of human condtion, which should not label these music equivalents of such attributes, as they the tunes are possibly 'redeemable' if used much more for opposite expressions. There must also be ways to use classical tunes to express degeneration and corruption but since the instruments are more dated and somehow more venerated this does not quite happen today. Can we get out of this prison of impression and enter the bliss of disassociation someday?
Loge
QUOTE(Me_Again @ May 24 2005, 11:18 AM)
Loge,
What is that metal sound in the monks chanting ? Is it an instrument, copper ? I wonder why my brain doesn't seem to like it  wacko.gif I like the chanting but that metal sound ....anyway,  thanks for answering my question  wub.gif
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101
Here Loge this one is for you. blush.gif

I gave them to you,
A joy to behold;
A gift from My heart,
For you alone.
Now my Heart Aches,
For the ones that are lost;
To little to fight,
To small to hold on.

I knew them before,
And I still know them now;
So many little angels,
I don't understand how.

There was Amanda,
So timid and shy;
And Jonathon, What a sweet little guy.
Trisha, an outgoing little girl,
and Bobby with all those cute little curls.

But now they're with me,
Little fingers wrapped around my hand;
So loving and trusting,
I just don't understand.

Angels of Joy,
That should be alive;
But all that I hear,
Are their silent crys.
..................God

By Tina Struve

Mr Ed
Nice new pic btw 101
101
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ May 25 2005, 01:53 PM)
Nice new pic btw 101
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Thanks Mr. Ed.. wub.gif
101
Listen to my cry for help, my King and my God for to you I pray. Psalm 5:2

So in fact music is a cry to the Lord. In Psalms they used harps to play melodys to God. So beautiful music is sent to Heaven. whistling2.gif
Loge
QUOTE(Q-La @ May 24 2005, 11:42 AM)
What music will the classical masters write if they are born today?  Will they use the chaotic element of rock music to work for them??  Actually I think all audio orders and rhythms are neutral in nature but to the psyche of the listener they mean different things.  Also happened that rock /punk /metal etc. are more frequently used to express elements from the lower spectrum end of human condtion, which should not label these music equivalents of such attributes, as they the tunes are possibly 'redeemable' if used much more for opposite expressions.  There must also be ways to use classical tunes to express degeneration and corruption but since the instruments are more dated and somehow more venerated this does not quite happen today.  Can we get out of this prison of impression and enter the bliss of disassociation someday?
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They will compose classical music that will express the type of Dismal Mind which this present humanity that despises the Divine has. Like the following modern classical music that expresses perfectly well how humans celebrate and love corruption! devil.gif

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Listen carefully to this!
hyperactive
QUOTE(Loge @ May 25 2005, 05:25 PM)
They will compose classical music that will express the type of Dismal Mind which this present humanity that despises the Divine has.  Like the following modern classical music that expresses perfectly well how humans celebrate and love corruption!  devil.gif

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Listen carefully to this!
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you are funny. but do you mean to be so?

humans have always been humans!

at any age of humanity there have been the enightened and the unenlightened.

not all can or will achieve the same understanding. it is natural for there to be diversity. it is in the diversity that we are strong and dynamic. to approach but one way is to approach our end.
photon2
thanks you added a little pleasure into our lives
despise only ignorance and the pain in others that you cannot remove through your efforts
101
Welcome Photon2. Have fun here!

Loge is a great guy. yes.gif
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