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neo cloud 8900
ive seen and heard a LOT of info on these two systems. from what i hear xbox 360 will blow away the ps3. but yesterday, i just heard the ps3 will kill the xbox 360. does anyone have any OFFICIAL info? hmm.gif
Shakezulah
theres a ton of official info on this site. we really dont need another thread on this.
Super Pancake
This is different Shakezulah

Janiel posted this link PS3 vs X-box 360

basically give or take their the same.

but when it come down to it who has the bigger library, Revolution kicks ass, over 20 years of games will be available to calm my hunger of Nintendo!
BurnSide
The two machines are pretty even matched.

Here is a great article comparing the two:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives..._they_mean.html



And i quote from it:

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The cores really place the power in the hands of developers. The Xbox 360 has 3 running at 3.2GHz each, the PS3 has seven apparently. So theoretically the PS3 is faster, much faster, which means it can do a lot more complex things. These days complex things refer to physics calculations and graphics operations. But it's all about how to use them as the power can only be exploited by using the cores together. It's a bit like having several complex puzzles to solve with several clever people available. If you give each person one puzzle will they solve it quicker than if you give all the people one puzzle at a time? The better developers will make their code efficient, meaning theoretically better games.


PS3 1, Xbox360, 0.

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In terms of the active memory on access, the PS3 is two times as powerful as the PS2 and the Xbox 360 is twice that.


PS3 1, Xbox360, 1.

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Now for those teraflops. The more there are, the faster the machine can do sums. In more high-tech speak, gamesindustry.biz says:
a measurement of how many of the floating point operations crucial to the graphics and physics in modern games can be processed per second
Sony wins in tech-talk on this crucial ground, with two times the terraflopping of the Xbox 360.


PS3 2, Xbox360 1.

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With all the different processors added up, PS3 can perform twice as many raw calculations per second. In practise though, the different chips will need to wait for each other to catch up, so it will never run at full tech speed.



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PS3 will be able to output a higher-resolution (i.e., more high definition) signal


PS3 3, Xbox360 1.

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Sony's machine is unique in that it offers two HD outputs, for the ultimate in multitasking.


I wont score that, but it's cool.

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Memory: Microsoft's will probably ship with 20GB - a behemoth amount (think 5,000 songs on an iPod). PS3 purchasers will have to buy their hard drive at the pay point. Both machines support memory cards. Microsoft's will be 8 times larger than PS2's current 8 MB card, but Sony's will support their SD memory sticks. More memory will come from the USB ports - a whopping six on Sony's machine and three on the Xbox 360.


I think Xbox360 gets the point for that.

PS3 3, Xbox360 2.

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the PS3 supports more players in the same room than the Xbox 360 which only offers four.


More players, more fun. Although both machines will be primarily online, PS3 for that.

PS3 4, Xbox360 2.

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Online: Microsoft simply has more experience with the online medium, so it's expected that their implementation of Live will be better. From what I've heard on the inside, it's definitely easier to design for.



Ps3 4, Xbox360 3.




Read through the article for more.
In the end, PS3 has got it for raw power, visuals, games etc. But Xbox360 will probably rule the online world, as well as will be cheaper, in every aspect, have a better memory system etc etc.

The Roswell Man
yea
just check the articles and threads on this subject
and make ur own mind up. thumbsup.gif
Walken
Shouldn't this be a poll? tongue.gif
BurnSide
We already have a poll about this.
FLY SPITTA
I say they are like the same...
seeking
i dont see them being similar at all really, they both took different directions with thier new console
BurnSide
Unfortunately, we actually haven't seen any of the XBox360 games in action yet.

All the playable demos for 360 games were actually being run off Apple G5's rather than the actual console, which is why the controllers were wired and why the graphics looked so horribly poor.

But seeking is definately right. Sony went off on a more console-gaming approach, MS went off on a more online gaming thing and turned their console into, well, a PC. laugh.gif
The Roswell Man
with MS been more pc firndly and orientated
figures. disgust.gif
AffinityForEvil
I just want em both. Bothe have good stuff and really cool games comeing out.
neo cloud 8900
i was watching g4 the other day. i saw gameplay from killzone 2. it looked amazing, almost like a cg movie. also, i saw a movie from a new final fantasy game. it takes place in the world of ff7. it doesnt have classic ff gameplay. its all 3rd person gun play. im pretty sure its coming out for the ps3. and just for the record, i say that the ps3 is going to shame the xbox 360
Fox Mulder
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All the playable demos for 360 games were actually being run off Apple G5's rather than the actual console, which is why the controllers were wired and why the graphics looked so horribly poor.


Microsoft were using APPLE G5's??

*cough*


lol,

didn't think they'd be up for that kind of action

Cheers
BurnSide
Yeah. Always figured MS and Apple were enemies, but lo and behold!
neo cloud 8900
the ps3 has a lot of better exclusive games.
AffinityForEvil
Both the systems look really good. I wana try and get both if i can. THe first to get, i dont quite know yet. Xbox almost sounds cooler and has a better controler.
Shakezulah
well there is a considerably long time between each of the systems release. the 360 comes out first. and the controller for it is isnt really that great. its pretty ugly. but the controller doesnt really make the systems great.
Neo2005
The Revolution is coming.
Stop talking about lesser systems.


Will you be ready to take hold of the Revolution?
Hawk7886
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Jun 3 2005, 12:32 PM)
The Revolution is coming.
Stop talking about lesser systems.


Will you be ready to take hold of the Revolution?
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...

I'm ready to die laughing, yes.
nick_fury
nintendo doesnt even come into the equation i was so let down by the cube i bought a ps2, n my purple ninty lunchbox now sits gathering dust under my bed
As for ps3 n 360, it's tricky as ps2 seems to be giving away a lot of liscences, what with gta and mgs games both popping up on xbox, but i still gotta go for sony's wonder machine just because you know what you're getting
Neo2005
QUOTE(Hawk7886 @ Jun 3 2005, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Jun 3 2005, 12:32 PM)
The Revolution is coming.
Stop talking about lesser systems.


Will you be ready to take hold of the Revolution?
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...

I'm ready to die laughing, yes.
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Obviously someone who can;t handle the power of the Revolution.
Your probably wanting the new Xbox because you think it makes you cool.
You better hurry up and jump on your little bandwagon but hold on when it crashes ok.


The Revolution is coming will you be ready?
Hawk7886
QUOTE(Shakezulah @ May 26 2005, 11:53 AM)
well there is a considerably long time between each of the systems release. the 360 comes out first. and the controller for it is isnt really that great. its pretty ugly. but the controller doesnt really make the systems great.
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Hehe, it pays to actually do your research. Every since scrap of info I've found on the 360's controller compliments it on being perfect. The way the battery lasts for days on a single charge, and how when it gets low you don't ever have to put it down, since you could plug it in and keep playing as it charges it... Just awesome. Now I just need to pick up that Logitech one for the Xbox...

I'm really excited about the 360's launch. Given the history of the other two, I'll pick the one that touts what I want. My brother might pick up a PS3. He seems to be a lot wiser now, so maybe not...
Hawk7886
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Jun 3 2005, 12:41 PM)
Obviously someone who can;t handle the power of the Revolution.
Your probably wanting the new Xbox because you think it makes you cool.
You better hurry up and jump on your little bandwagon but hold on when it crashes ok.


Oh noes! I want to buy this car, with it's perfect safety rating, 60 MPG (City), but if I do buy this amazingly beautiful car I'll be following everyone else with half a brain! What will I ever do?!

If I want to be a TRUE rebel I can get this one over here. It's tiny and it doesn't have any wheels, but I won't be following the crowd!

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The Revolution is coming will you be ready?
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It won't be here for a while, since it has to walk.
BurnSide
I have to point out at the moment that the only thing the Revolution has boasted so far is something that you can get on the current Xbox for a $5 mod chip. sad.gif
Hawk7886
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 12:52 PM)
I have to point out at the moment that the only thing the Revolution has boasted so far is something that you can get on the current Xbox for a $5 mod chip. sad.gif
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Or maybe with a 5 meg emulator for... slightly less ph34r.gif


As much as I don't like to think of myself as being an Xbox fanboy... I'm getting both the 360 (which is still the worst name ever) and the PS3. I can't just pull stuff out of my butt, I need to experience both of them.

Now all I need is a load of cash to burn...
Janiel
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Jun 3 2005, 12:32 PM)
The Revolution is coming.
Stop talking about lesser systems.


Will you be ready to take hold of the Revolution?
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Judging by the sale of Nintendo consoles thus far, I think the only thing the "Revolution" will revolutionize is a new all time low in sales.
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Thanks goes to Hawk for the link to the Gamer's Manifestio. link
nick_fury
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 11:52 PM)
I have to point out at the moment that the only thing the Revolution has boasted so far is something that you can get on the current Xbox for a $5 mod chip. sad.gif
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exactly i still think it's too early for the next generation, this lot of consles has only been around 3-4 years, the ps and n64 were about for at least 5 or 6
The xbxo and cube are still only just reaching their true capability, the only one that can make a real step foward is sonys machine
BurnSide
QUOTE(Hawk7886 @ Jun 3 2005, 06:56 PM)

As much as I don't like to think of myself as being an Xbox fanboy... I'm getting both the 360 (which is still the worst name ever) and the PS3. I can't just pull stuff out of my butt, I need to experience both of them.

Now all I need is a load of cash to burn...
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Personally i have no need for the Xbox360 since the games don't appeal to me.
The thing, as usual, that completely shapes my choice is it's games library. I don't know what i would do without PS favourites like Final Fantasy, MGS etc. I'd imagine that's why you're getting both?

hahah they called it Xbox360, if i'm not mistaken, because Xbox2 would sound inferior to PS3. They wanted to give it a name that made it sound above the PS3 instead.
MonkeyMan
QUOTE(neo cloud 8900 @ May 23 2005, 07:34 AM)
i was watching g4 the other day. i saw gameplay from killzone 2. it looked amazing, almost like a cg movie. also, i saw a movie from a new final fantasy game. it takes place in the world of ff7. it doesnt have classic ff gameplay. its all 3rd person gun play. im pretty sure its coming out for the ps3. and just for the record, i say that the ps3 is going to shame the xbox 360
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Ps3 will rule the console world with it's superior rpg's and adventures.

XBOX 360 will rule the online world, but unless sony brings out online play soon, microsoft may be able to squeeze it's big and ugly mug into the #1 spot.

Nintendo used to be superior, but now it's known for being a gay cube of delight in it's current incarnation, and having the wierdest games. Ill buy a revolution just for Zelda: Twilight Princess(tentative title.)
BurnSide
I thougth Twilight Princess, it's offical name now btw, was being released on the Cube..
Janiel
I'm still completly neutral as to what side to stand on. As much as I would love to own both, it's just not in the cards for me. If I even get one, it would have to depend on the games. At the moment, I'm enjoying both ps2's line and Xbox's line. So, I'm not sure on what to base my decision on. Only time can tell for me.
BurnSide
At 350-500 bucks a pop, who would be able to afford both. dontgetit.gif
Janiel
Magic people, and teenagers who still live at home but have jobs. They won't know what to do with their money if they can save it right.

Oh, and on a side note, I just noticed I've never owned a Nintendo system.
MonkeyMan
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 04:05 PM)
I thougth Twilight Princess, it's offical name now btw, was being released on the Cube..
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Stupid Cube, Why Can't nintendo pull a sega and stop with the home console hardware?and the portable, because Id rather have a psp then a crappy DS, with some dog walking simulator.
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At 350-500 bucks a pop, who would be able to afford both.



Your looking at his post.
BurnSide
I owned a nes, owned the N64 for ONE game - Goldeneye. grin2.gif And the cube for 3 games, all resident evil.


.... that's kinda sad really.
Janiel
QUOTE(MonkeyMan @ Jun 3 2005, 01:09 PM)
Your looking at his post.
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We a spoiled child? tongue.gif

QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 01:09 PM)
I owned a nes, owned the N64 for ONE game - Goldeneye. grin2.gif And the cube for 3 games, all resident evil.


.... that's kinda sad really.
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Heh, I can't blame you for getting a cube for RE. Anything else, however, would be inexcuseable (Is that even a word?)
BurnSide
Wait, sorry, i also have Windwaker/Ocarina for Cube.
Hawk7886
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 01:02 PM)
Personally i have no need for the Xbox360 since the games don't appeal to me.
The thing, as usual, that completely shapes my choice is it's games library. I don't know what i would do without PS favourites like Final Fantasy, MGS etc. I'd imagine that's why you're getting both?

I'm a big fan of getting everything in one package. Sometimes I'll get bored of playing games so I'll toss in a DVD, or I'll load up my massive music collection that's stored on the Xboxen's beefy Harddrive(Is it actually possible to fill it? I've never heard a single story of someone doing it...). I just love having the feeling that I don't have to play games if I want to.

As for the 360's library, I loathe Sports titles (I don't count racing games as a sport game, since they appear to be in their own genre). I absolutely hate them. The thing that does it for me is a great action/adventure game, with rich gameplay and a terrific storyline. Although it is fun to drive a car into traffic at 210 MPH...

The 360's release library is large and varied, even if it does seem to be leaning a bit towards the football fan. I can think of a few games I'd want to pick up if(when? I need more money...) I got it. After all, as game designers learn the structure of the 360's hardware, the games could only get better in time! (I've tried playing Halo and Halo 2 within mere minutes of either. I was amazed at the differences.)

There are a lot of things I don't like about the 360, but I can't form a complete opinion unless I can tinker with both. original.gif

QUOTE(Burnside @ Jun 3 2005, 01:02 PM)
hahah they called it Xbox360, if i'm not mistaken, because Xbox2 would sound inferior to PS3. They wanted to give it a name that made it sound above the PS3 instead.
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I heard the same thing. I was hoping it was just a rumor, but when the marketing machine fired up and the name was set in stone, I died a little inside.

Next we'll have the Xbox 1080, where it'll spin around three times before being right back where it started.
BurnSide
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The 360's release library is large and varied, even if it does seem to be leaning a bit towards the football fan.


I noticed. Xbox has always had more sports games than PS, then again that may just be me seeing that since my xbox-owning friends have pretty much nothing by sports and KOTOR. I hate them too, ugh.

MonkeyMan
[quote=Janiel,Jun 3 2005, 04:12 PM]
[quote=MonkeyMan,Jun 3 2005, 01:09 PM]Your looking at his post.
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[QUOTE]We a spoiled child? tongue.gif[/QUOTE]


Nope. I work. And Mooch. And since im a foster kid, I get free cash tongue.gif beat that.

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Heh, I can't blame you for getting a cube for RE. Anything else, however, would be inexcuseable (Is that even a word?)
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I got that stupid gay cube of delight. And I played Re4. Now my money is wasted.


BurnSide
You dissin RE4?
Janiel
I actually enjoy a good football game every now and then. The pointless violence is what appeals to me. It's kinda fun controlling a junkload of gargantuans that wanna crush their opponents. But a whole console leaned towards that is a bit overboard.
BurnSide
laugh.gif You're right, there was ONE NFL game that i quite enjoyed since i discovered i could just stake around and beat the crap out of everyone else.
MonkeyMan
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 04:17 PM)
You dissin RE4?
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No, im saying that all there is to play is Re4
BurnSide
Okay, okay. *settles down*
MonkeyMan
I wouold never diss RE, Wind Waker, thats something different.
Walken
As far as I'm concerned, the XBOX owns the PS2 - The difference is it came a lot later.

XBOX 360 will have an edge in that which it'll have all the christmas trade, but I expect PS3 to be the better machine.

Still, I'll have the XBOX. laugh.gif
Hawk7886
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jun 3 2005, 01:09 PM)
I owned a nes, owned the N64 for ONE game - Goldeneye. grin2.gif And the cube for 3 games, all resident evil.


.... that's kinda sad really.
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I've been a Nintendo kid even since before I was born. My mom used to play on her Gameboy when she was pregnant with me. I jumped from an SNES to a Sega Genesis to an N64 and later to a Gamecube. I lost all faith in Nintendo when I bought the Gamecube. I still have a drawer filled with N64 games, though...

After my disappointment in the Gamecube was evident, I got an Xbox and my brother got a PS2. We play on both frequently, but if he wants to play online he has to use the Xbox, otherwise he has to deal with the worst experiences on the planet. I love a lot of the PS2-exclusive games, so I try not to be a fanboy to any system. I love them all equally! ... Except that bastard Gamecube.

QUOTE(BurnSide)

I noticed. Xbox has always had more sports games than PS, then again that may just be me seeing that since my xbox-owning friends have pretty much nothing by sports and KOTOR. I hate them too, ugh.


Your xbox-owning friends sound evil. sad.gif

I have a mostly action game-based library. Since I don't play much but Halo and Halo 2, I found myself playing less and less of my other games. The Splinter Cell series is amazingly awesome, though. GTA:VC on the Xbox can't compare to any other system, even a high-end PC. Playing a game where you control a boat that can shoot and bomb other boats? Never heard of it until I played Bloodwake. Too bad the replay value on that one is nearly nothing... The Burnout series still amazes me to this day.
MonkeyMan
Devils!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! devil.gif go get yourself a ps2, and but every final fantasy that has a ps logo on it. Then you'll know what are good games.
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