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Toltec
The legend which I am about to present was told to me when I was very young and despite I refer to it as a legend it does bring up an issue regarding the life of Jesus Christ that is a valid conclusion. This being that the Romans new of the existence of the Messiah prior to his birth having accessed Isreals libraries quite some time before Jesus was born.

The legend also cites that Abraham also had the power to raise the dead and that this information is included in the dead sea scrolls but has not been revealed to the masses as of this time.....


Rome's leaders having been made aware of the coming of the Messiah were actually very concerned.

As a result of their research, they had concluded that this person was to be a very powerful mystic so much so that no other had been on earth like him (near him in power) since the days the Egyptians ruled the world. To them the threat was very real and for several reasons foremost, was the influence a person would have on others if he had the power to raise the dead.

No army could defeat him or those who would choose to follow him and as
it seemed, according to Israeli text, a warrior with the power of a God would
soon be born within their borders.

To make matters worst this man would not be a Roman implying to them, that their empire as, well as their people would not survive. There Romans were a proud people and in there arrogance they had long ago destroyed records, related to the prophets, which had been the beginning of Roman society.

They realized that before they did anything about the matter of Jesus they would need to further investigate what could be done to stop this attack. Attempts to question the Jews had not resulted in the answers they were looking for the roman soldiers which had been sent to investigate had reported that it seemed apparent they were holding something back. The Egyptians were also approached, but it had been so long since such a prophet had ever existed in Egypt they simply could not provide anything more than did the Jews.

The Roman Senate clearly lacked what they needed to deal with this problem and they were certain, that by virtue of what they had ascertained on there own, that answers were available. It was therefore decided that since no other recourse existed they would have to approach the Chinese.

The Romans had learned to travel around Continents it was a part of there legacy, they did this by keeping there ships within 12 miles off the coast, throughout the journey. If a storm or some other problem occurred they would stop and go to shore returning on their trip when conditions improved.

Since the days Egypt ruled, trade in silk was common place though the Roman's had never been directly involved in contact with China.

This was something they could use to their advantage.....


Several ships were built, but only so as to design them to portray its
passengers as messengers sent by others. Besides, the Chinese may
recognize other vessels and know of their history.

A group of Egyptian priests as well as Israeli Judges will accompany the
contingency. They will present the proper attitude in the presence of the
Chinese at all times.

This to be guaranteed by the time the ships are ready to sail................






Toltec
The Roman membership of the contigency will be prepared, to present themselves as commanding a diplomatic effort in relating to estabishing formal relations with the country of China regarding the nature of a Messiah.


It took time, mostly because of the Jews and Egyptians and though the Romans were not at war with the Egyptians they would be watching them more carefully in the future. The ships set sail from the east coast of Africa and though the trip was very long, they arrived at their destination having had relatively few deaths and within very little time were in the presence he who then was the Emperor of this vast land. The meeting by virtue of how the Romans presented themselves was accepted as a diplomatic effort and as well the Romans had with them a gift, which the offered the Emperor in exchange of information regarding prophets. The Romans were said to have approached the Emperor from the context if the request being one whose purpose was to fulfil a scientific inquiry into the matter. The gift in question was the Ark of the covenant but not the original (though this was not made clear to the Emperor) the Romans who in those days possessed it had made several copies and this was one of them.The Emperor agreed and gave the Romans complete access to their libraries, scholars and shamans in respect to this issue.

Several matters were of special interests to this Roman contingency in those days.........


Chinese records did aid them in their concerns should this Messiah be in fact an evil version of this type of prophet. While the Chinese had encountered such versions, they were known to always be much less powerful. A poison had been developed one which had always been effective against these humans if ingested. In fact one way of detecting them is that no other poisons except this one will work.

The Romans were especially curious as to our conclusions in respect to life after death more specifically in respect to the mechanics of reincarnation. They were presented with our research on eye's open. As we are all aware at the time of death a persons eye's must be left open otherwise the soul, which is immature will not be able to get out.

The soul needs the light coming from the eye's to find its way out and if the eye's are closed then the soul cannot escape. It is trapped in its own rotting carcase awaiting the day when finally the skin, which covers the eye lids, rots away. This of course takes an immense amount of time and during that time the soul is afflicted when it returns to life it will not be as capable as it was in its last life time.

By your command Emperor they were also given acess to our construction methodology they expressed, in with respect, to buildings with collums.

The Chinese legend goes on to explain that the Roman contingency left and expressed the intention of sending more ships, for further contact, but no ships ever returned, within the potential lifetimes, of those who had visited them first. Further investigation conducted at that time indicated the birth date of the Messiah in question.

They had enough time to travel there and investigate.

The first thing they did was send a group of spy's, people who resembled them enough so as not to arouse suspicion. They were assigned to travel to Israel, Egypt and Rome and at no time or under any circumstances reveal who in fact they were.

These men returned to China with news of what to them was a nightmare. They found that while those in power were allowed to die with there eye's open and left open after death, those beneath them, all of them, immediately when dead, their eye's were closed. It was more than just an issue which could be overcome by simple means, only those in power the correct thing to do the others have been taught that the incorrect thing is the right way. They were fairly certain that it was just not the leaders of the culture, which were involved but rather there was a rather large group of people some of which are no longer in Rome and have relocated.

The account presents that the next time a contingency was sent to Roman territory it was during the life of Jesus when they returned they reported that he was crucified as well as other information regarding his life with regards to miracles and discourse.

The legend states that it was after this that China closed it doors to contact with the West Romans found with range of their weapons were to be killed on site.

Bio-Mage
What exactly is the source of this information?
marduk
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ May 21 2005, 11:56 AM)
What exactly is the source of this information?
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TraJikMaJik
QUOTE(marduk @ May 21 2005, 05:48 AM)
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ May 21 2005, 11:56 AM)
What exactly is the source of this information?
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i can see a book coming
it'll be in the fiction section
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and the stuff by graham hancock and zech sitchin
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And Yet, ANOTHER useless post by Marduk. I can always look forward to coming on the boards and finding a post by Marduk that is a sorry attempt at being funny. What would my day be without one?

p.s. Sorry my post has nothing to do with subject. Just add this to marduk's useless post count.
marduk
QUOTE(TraJikMaJik @ May 21 2005, 09:37 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 21 2005, 05:48 AM)
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ May 21 2005, 11:56 AM)
What exactly is the source of this information?
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i can see a book coming
it'll be in the fiction section
next to the bible
and the stuff by graham hancock and zech sitchin
w00t.gif w00t.gif
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And Yet, ANOTHER useless post by Marduk. I can always look forward to coming on the boards and finding a post by Marduk that is a sorry attempt at being funny. What would my day be without one?

p.s. Sorry my post has nothing to do with subject. Just add this to marduk's useless post count.
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Toltec
This and several other legends I am aware of, as explained in the text above, was taught to me in my youth. The person who discussed the matter with me also stated that records in China exist, which support the contents presented above.


The legend presents an almost "matrix" like culture in relation to western society where leaders with there advantage easily manipulate less aware humans. In respect to the time in history in which, these events transpired and with regard to purpose of the mission, what is sugested, is that Rome manipulated events in
respect to the life of Jesus more so than is often concluded.

That the Romans upon conquering Israel gained access to the Old Testament and understood it enough to know that Jesus was coming is not unrealistic. That they would then take action to protect themselves from him, also makes sense, clearly the conclusion that Jesus posed a threat to the Roman empire was not something that history denies as realistic.

One can review the Talmud and note that with exception to the words "evil one" a version of the Lords Prayer is present and accounted for. I can tell you that as far as I have been taught, what we today call the Lords Prayer was spoken every morning, upon awakening, by a person who's title was Judge of Israel, as a
matter of tradition.

And it gets stranger.......


Any thoughts?




PS: Marduk, some of these legends can be very strange my advise, try not to take them or yourself to seriously ph34r.gif
Amalgamut
QUOTE(TraJikMaJik @ May 21 2005, 02:37 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 21 2005, 05:48 AM)
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ May 21 2005, 11:56 AM)
What exactly is the source of this information?
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i can see a book coming
it'll be in the fiction section
next to the bible
and the stuff by graham hancock and zech sitchin
w00t.gif w00t.gif
[right][snapback]633057[/snapback][/right]


And Yet, ANOTHER useless post by Marduk. I can always look forward to coming on the boards and finding a post by Marduk that is a sorry attempt at being funny. What would my day be without one?

p.s. Sorry my post has nothing to do with subject. Just add this to marduk's useless post count.
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marduk
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ May 23 2005, 08:25 AM)
QUOTE(TraJikMaJik @ May 21 2005, 02:37 PM)
QUOTE(marduk @ May 21 2005, 05:48 AM)
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ May 21 2005, 11:56 AM)
What exactly is the source of this information?
[right][snapback]633024[/snapback][/right]

i can see a book coming
it'll be in the fiction section
next to the bible
and the stuff by graham hancock and zech sitchin
w00t.gif w00t.gif
[right][snapback]633057[/snapback][/right]


And Yet, ANOTHER useless post by Marduk. I can always look forward to coming on the boards and finding a post by Marduk that is a sorry attempt at being funny. What would my day be without one?

p.s. Sorry my post has nothing to do with subject. Just add this to marduk's useless post count.
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hehehe
my useless posts at least aren't personal attacks eh.
attacking me personally trajik majik is about the most useless thing you can do
I DON'T LISTEN
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