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FLY SPITTA
After hearing about the guy dressing up as bigfoot in footage long ago, to hearing so many sighings what's your opinion? I listen to Coast to Coast AM and they had several sightings or actually people claiming they seen him. So what's your final opinion?

Me I say that Bigfoot is real. I'd like to believe that he is real so I say yes. There have been to many sightings to be fake. And even up to date Bigfoot is still the most popular Crypto creature. Even after that one man claimed to dress up as Bigfoot I still say Yes Bigfoot is real.

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TheOriginalF
I voted "No, I think he's real", not because I necessarily believe in bigfoot but because it's one of the "unexplained mysteries" that seems relatively plausible to me...I've always felt that somehow bigfoot would be reveled as a true species at some point in my life time, but I guess we'll never really know until that happens.
hyperactive
i voted for real.

hey, bigfoot and ogopogo are our fun stories in these parts!
Walken
I don't think we need to make a final disc-is-ion. Especially since thousands of people join UM evrey month, each one with a new oppinion, and in that respect the disc-is-ion would never be final anyway.
nativechick1989
I voted "No Bigfoot is real".

I BELIEVE!!

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FLY SPITTA
QUOTE(Walken @ May 21 2005, 09:42 PM)
I don't think we need to make a final disc-is-ion. Especially since thousands of people join UM evrey month, each one with a new oppinion, and in that respect the disc-is-ion would never be final anyway.
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This is not exactly a FINAL DECISION this is like a decision for everyone who's here right now...sorry I did not put my text EXACT but you know what I meant..
michael581
a hairy ape sounds logical to me
wolftrax
Bob Heironimous's claims to being the man in the suit of the PGF is one of many who have made the same claims over the years. His story is full of many contradictions that don't match to what is known about the film. He claims that there were only two horses at the scene, one being his that Patterson borrowed. Patterson was not on Bob H's horse but another one he always used, and there were three horses at the scene, we know this because the footage before the filming shows the three horses, one being a pack horse. His recollection of the journey to the site is wrong, he said it was just a couple of miles from the road, yet it was a couple hours trek that is unforgetable. He said Patterson remained on the horse and just shook the camera around to jumble the image, yet as anybody who has spent any time studying the footage (and I have) will tell you Patterson did exactly what Patterson said he did, he chased after the subject from the bank of the stream, on foot, and bent down on one knee to steady the camera when he was closer to the subject. He said that he only had the suit in his possession for two days, and the first day it was seen by his buddies at the local bar. Yet witnesses who were contacted indicated he had it for some time, one even knew for a fact he didn't see it until the following year. He said it was a horse hide suit, there were rumors he was parading around town at night in a grey horse hide suit, and indeed for a couple years people reported seeing a grey sasquatch in the Yakima valley. So there is far more reason to believe he was hoaxing people for some time and made this story up as well, just like Ray Wallace did.

And then there are the tracks, documented and cast by Bob Titmus, showing depths that could not be reached by humans on the scene, yet showing flexibility and showing traits not even recognized until recent times by primate experts as authentic sasquatch tracks. Titmus also followed the tracks up a steep hill, where it actually sat down by a tree and behind some brush and watched P&G casting it's tracks. Bob H claims he walked for a little while, jumped into a hole left by an upturned stump, and took the suit off.

Regardless, I don't know what to think about the film, but do I think sasquatch exist? No, I KNOW they exist. original.gif
greychupa
He's definitely real...I am convinced he is some type of hairy ape. But, now we need more shootage and pictures to convince the world he is real... hmm.gif
Conspiracy
i believe its real, cuz a giant ape like that can be smart enough to hide from humans in the dense forests of north america, and plus theres been sightings of them since way before the europeans showed up
Ruby
I voted "No bigfoot is real" thumbsup.gif I think he is real grin2.gif
DanaScully
I also think he's real... I even can't explain why... but I feel it, that's all !
Falco Rex
I voted real..Although I've never seen one myself so I won't go and actually claim it's real as a fact..
However, I for one have never really been convinced the Patterson footage was a hoax. Although Patterson appears to be far from an innocent guy; Heironimous, Wallace and the host of others seem to exude a trail of slime wherever they go. I'll take the word of the lesser of two evils on this one.. tongue.gif
Wedge
I don't belive in Bigfoot, but if someone shoots/captures one I will. geek.gif bounce.gif
Tia
I put down real. grin2.gif

Good info Wolftrax. yes.gif
Pannkakskungen
Of course Bigfoot is real, otherwise there are some really hairy fellas out there who I feel sorry for, they need a real bikini wax.
The Roswell Man
i shuld think its....
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rrr
Bigfoot is a fake! Please get more votes for fake!
Odinson
I am doomed to be a minority.
Odinson
It seems to me that alot of the Bigfoot stuff could be faked. The Patterson vid, the bigfoot tracks, the most recent vid featured on "Current Affair". The Patterson vid has been claimed as a fake. People do fake the tracks. And that Current Affair vid may as well have been a fake being so horrible.

The only thing that cannot be discounted are eyewitness accounts. For me personally, that is not enough. Some tell the truth, some lie, and some exaggerate. He could exist. But with my amateurish knowledge, I can't believe.

Even though I voted "fake", I want to be proven wrong and have UM make fun of me for being wrong. Bigfoot OR Yeti, conclusive proof would be like brong myths to life.
Guns N Roses
I had Voted he Does exist! With all this evidence and sightings over the past Years! Some people lie and some dont but i think he or She does Exist! thumbsup.gif I just hope i get to see it one day! hmm.gif
FLY SPITTA
Yeah that's what I mean too. Some sightings have to be real otherwise there's a lot a lot of liers!
WiseguY
I don't know if Bigfoot is real or not. Since Iam forced to choose, I say "he is real", based on the overwhelming amount of credible eye-witness accounts.
Deimos
well, it is harder to prove that it exits, and hard to disprove it as well. but it may be harder to disprove. after all, a body would prove it exists once and for all, but if a body was never found, people would still claim it's exitcense. so in the sake of the unknown, i belive the creature exists
ShaunZero
Bifoot is fake! It's so agervating... the things people beleive O_o.....
Seraphina
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Bifoot is fake! It's so agervating... the things people beleive O_o.....


People were saying the exact same thing about gorrillas for about one hundred and forty years, until someone actually shot one, despite the fact that the local natives were quite familiar with the creature, had incorporated it into their myths and folklore, and told the white settlers of it....of course, such stories were dismissed.

Today, sasquatch exists in the myths and folklore of the native americans, and has done so for generations. And, surprise surprise, they're utterly dismissed. It is, in fact, entirerly possible to believe that a species of greater ape (other than mankind of course) lives in north america....and why not? There are thousands of square miles of forest across the length of the continent that humans, quite frankly, simply have never explored.

There is an abundance of food and territory to support such a species, and evidence in the form of hair, excrement, footprints, eye witness accounts, and the...occassional...credible photograph, shouldn't be so easily dismissed. Bigfoot is a damn sight more likely to be out there than cow mutilating aliens, ghosts or other, far more far fetched, elements of the unexplained...in fact, I'd say bigfoot being out there is a near certainty in my mind.
Amalgamut
I dated a girl that resembled "Bigfoot" (if you know what I mean.)

So, I voted "yes".
Amalgamut
oops, i mean i voted "no." (but I think he/she's real.)
wolftrax
QUOTE(Tia @ May 22 2005, 04:11 AM)
I put down real.  grin2.gif

Good info Wolftrax.  yes.gif
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Shai_Hulud
Far more money and effort has been put in to prove the existence of Bigfeet than the Gorillas. All it took was one expedition and Bigfeet lives in the relatively urban backwoods of America versus the dense jungle of the Congo. With all the encounters between man and Bigfoot, not one shred of irrefutable physical evidence was recovered. People are liars, why I bet everyone here has lied at some point in their life. There are people who believes outrageous things, such as young Earth Creationists or Flat Earthers, the fact that they may seem reasonably stable and well balanced does not indicates the truth of what they believe. i have made my stand.
Seraphina
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Far more money and effort has been put in to prove the existence of Bigfeet than the Gorillas


Actually, there has never (to date) been an expedition to hunt for sasquatch that was both well funded, and carried out over an extended period of time. Cryptozoology is severely lacking in funding.

The fact that a gorrilla was eventually shot, and a sasquatch has not, is simply down to the set of circumstances....in Africa, people were activly exploring with guns designed to take down a creature of such size. They were not limited in the equipment they could carry, or the route they could take through the forests.

In the US, the time of year determines what equipment a hunter will be allowed to carry. Carrying around a high powered rifle in anything but bear or moose season carries consequences that simply don't make it worth the slim chance of encountering a bigfoot....let us also remember that hunters stick to game trails...they're not activly exploring the vast square miles of the forest. The chances of a species of ape, especially if they still have a healthy fear of mankind, surviving unseen is actually very high.
DJ_Quinn
If those yank woodsmen thought they had a chance to shoot a bigfoot and get the notoriety, they would have done it by now. I personally beleive that bigfoot is only a legend.
Method
Bigfoot = next Tupac ....
Saru
There is insufficient information to conclude whether or not Bigfoot exists. We can't prove that it does, we can't prove that it doesn't. There are cases supporting both views.
sowegaMIB
i voted real... i think there are alot of things noone has ever seen, noone has ever been to the deepest part of the ocean and seen all the creatures of the water so i just don't believe we have seen everything on land....
Raptor
I think theres a very slim chance Bigfoot is real (Isnt the area 'he' is supposed to be in, quite small?). I think the Yeti could be real though. The snowalker video (seen on media section of this site), looks much more convincing than Paterson Footage.
XSAS
I am sure I read the snow walker was fake a couple of days ago here on UM.. I think there is a strong possibility that bigfoot is real and we don't have to look that far to find new species, the experiment in NY central Park last year proved that.
greattenchim
he more real then the easter bunny!
Mr Ed
Big foot maybe be real, I voted for this existence. However in this world some wierd and freaky things happen e.g. that kid with two heads etc.
It could just be a man who split hair growing formula all over him.
Dr1273
Sorry I don't think it's real. Too many fakes out there, men in suit and such. I think it began as a hoax in some part of the us and more just played along and kept it going. Some have made lots of money off the whole thing I'm sure.
Mr Ed
The main argument I would use to try and prove his existence is the sightings all over the east. Documenters go to these tiny villages near mountain tops and old men etc say they have seen the Yeti/Bigfoot.
I don't believe that they would lie and they did not get paid to say that anyway. Some of these people don't even have a need for money.
Red-eye Dragoon
i voted no he is real
to me bigfoot seems to be one of the most possible creatures in crypto
Invisigoth
I'm 99.9% sure Bigfoot doesn't exist. There is no fossil evidence of any primate in North America, and after all this time some solid proof would have been found.

But I do think it's possible that Native Americans may have encountered a small number of Gigantopithecus blacki that wandered across the Bering land bridge thousands of years ago and this is what accounts for the legend of Bigfoot.
fozzy
i cant believe hitler was scared of bigfoot and not scared of the us army that tells u that a dictator in another country who is scared of walking in the forest and sending his armys to kill the thing is even worth the time and effort that he put into germany
eddiez
Until someone can explain (in detail) some of the curious features of the Patterson video, such as the apparent movement of the musculature underneath the fur, I lean toward No, Bigfoot is real. The more I watch that sequence, the harder it is for me to see how it was faked.

Note: Edited "Bigfoot does exist" to "Bigfoot is real"
Lord_Kazius
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relatively urban backwoods


!?what? i live in canada and in no way are the forests urban....the forests range, they may be urban in a CITY but not in the untouched crown lands, the forests can get thick with brush, and trees, or can be a bit more spread out, believe me i have to walk around in this sh** during hunting, in NO way is our forests urban....
Mr Ed
I think that the Bigfoot or something similar does exist for these reasons.
Old men in villages high up near mountain tops claim they have seen it and it has scared their sheep etc. Over different places the same thing is said. These people would not necessarily need money, I can see no incentive for them to lie.
747400
Seems to me that the problem with the evidence we have is that it relies on just one piece of film, shot in, when, 1967?, and no one has been able to obtain anything approaching it since, even with all the technology we have now. But the one piece of film we do have is so good, so well lit, shows the creature so clearly... if Patterson was able to get such good footage of it in 1967, why hasn't anyone been able to do anything like it since? disgust.gif

... but I voted yes because of the weight of circumstantial evidence - noises, sightings, and their stories all seem too similar to write off completely, it just seems too unlikely that they've all conspired together to come up with the same story.

So on the whole I'd say ... hmm.gif
SLAYER69
I voted for being true and for all those people saying where's the proof? you know the world believes in Giant squids why? because they wash up from time to time but to date nobody has seen them live in the ocean in all their glory most woodsmen will tell you they never find a dead bear or rotting carcase of any type rarely do the come across any remains of any type so you have a lot more people cruising the worlds oceans than are tracking through the dense forrests and yet they have not spotted a live Giant squid HHMMMM unsure.gif
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