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neo cloud 8900
fight club contains a lot of philosophical issues. college film classes sometimes study this movie.

basically, its about letting go and hitting bottom. fighting is the beginning of that process. when you fight willingly, and not out of anger, you have truly let go. there is nothing like fighting with a freind and still being freinds afterwards. when you fight, you may be scared to get hit. in my case, im not. does anyone else think this is a great movie with a good message? and affinity for evil, we have to fight again. it was so fun.
Shakezulah
its a good movie, but thinking that it has a mesage and following it like that is just plain retarted.
ajagsfairy
I think it was a great movie. I really think that people really are exspecially today a slave to material things. So the message in the movie about People working in some crappy job that they hate to buy things that they dont need hit the nail on the head. I like the philosophy in the movie exept for the fighting part i'd get my butt kicked so bad. But on a deeper level i agree how one can only be free from hitting rock bottom and realizing that they do not need things to be happy. The time when i learned the most about myself was when i had nothing. Blessings. Jo
Shakezulah
in that sense, the movie does have a good message. the story is excellent. but i dont really think it should be influencing people to kick their friends asses for no particular reason, and then not care about it afterwards. it works for a movie though.
TheCrow
Fight Club is a damn good movie and Brad Pitt is great in it... There is a message there but I don't really pay much attention to it. I do think that Tyler has some great lines though...

"This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

"First you have to give up, first you have to *know*... not fear... *know*... that someday you're gonna die."

"Its not until you lose everything that you are free to do anything"

"Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing."
Super Pancake
It’s been ages since I’ve seen the film, what I like about it is I almost went brain dead when I saw it for the first time, I watch occasionally, because for some reason I get something new out of it.

My favorite line is
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You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your f***ing khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.


I have my reserve of the fact it was anti-consumerism, I think it was not really Jack’s or Tyler’s mission to bring down consumerism but just something that he took a swing at. I see it as a guy trying to find himself in life and anti-consumerism was something he thought might make him a different man. Since consumerism did not make him happy.

Don't forget about anarchy, basically Tyler hated the capitalist system and started this underground life, which I think there exist people who actually live out in this world. Selling soap and blowing up sh**.

Also remember the power animal, penguin thing, when they asked to release your animal and out came a penguin (hilarious). Obviously it was a symbolic gesture of conformity in of the capitalist society, but I thought Fight Club contradicted that message of anti conformity because, they started a group and it’s members conformed to their leader.

The ending was odd though different from the book in the end he shoots himself finally to “let go” and let things “just slide” I heard rumors that he shoot himself in medulla oblongata, which is the part of your brain that deals with aggression, right behind the ear killing Tyler, but Tyler gets it in the middle of the head. Whatever I guess he did not need Tyler no more because Jack finally learned to face death and was not afraid anymore because there are things that are worse, so he killed Tyler.

However in retrospective Jack just was scared, lonely, and pissed off about life and created a persona that lived the way he wants. But for all the BS of Tyler, Jack needed to create a scapegoat to do his thing a sad character in my opinion.

Whatever the scene where Jack is fighting himself is funny though
riotboy555
I thought it was an awesome movie thumbsup.gif
neo cloud 8900
me and two friends of mine have been fighting for the last three days. not relly to follow the movie, just because its fun. we got the idea for our little fight club from the movie though. shakezulah doesnt like it because he couldnt fight any of us even if he wanted to. and its a great stress releiver.
TheCrow
QUOTE(neo cloud 8900 @ May 24 2005, 03:53 PM)
shakezulah doesnt like it because he couldnt fight any of us even if he wanted to. [right][snapback]637450[/snapback][/right]


Acting like that in real life is lame nevermind on the internet... no offense!

QUOTE(neo cloud 8900 @ May 24 2005, 03:53 PM)
me and two friends of mine have been fighting for the last three days. not relly to follow the movie, just because its fun. we got the idea for our little fight club from the movie though. shakezulah doesnt like it because he couldnt fight any of us even if he wanted to. and its a great stress releiver.
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Do you actually go all out like the guys in the movie? Just messing about is ok, it can be fun and a stress releiver like you say but to go all out and draw blood and break noses and give black eyes and stuff is just dumb and pointless.. There's nothing cool about fighting.
Dr1273
It was a good movie but never thought about it as being an educational type flick.
neo cloud 8900
we dont go all out, more or less its just for fun and something to do.
neo cloud 8900
we dont go all out, more or less its just for fun and something to do.
Shakezulah
QUOTE(neo cloud 8900 @ May 24 2005, 08:53 AM)
shakezulah doesnt like it because he couldnt fight any of us even if he wanted to. and its a great stress releiver.
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dude, dont be an ass. i could fight you if i wanted to, so dont antagonize me. i just dont see a point in fighting for no reason. its dumb. i dont see how that could be fun.
neo cloud 8900
sorry, i was just trying to get you to fight...
seeking
how old are you neo? like 13? seriously.

trying to call shake out over the internet?

fighting is stupid, however i beleive every teenage boy wrestled with his friends at one point or another..back in the days of 7th grade me and my friends got a little wrestling group together and we staged matches of the like all out of fun..and it was fun, but trying to compare innocent wrestling with the fight club is a little like comparing apples to oranges, in one scenario you have a bunch of friends playing, and in the other you actually have them seriously injuring each other, two different things in my book rolleyes.gif

and one last thing..

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sorry, i was just trying to get you to fight...


what? over the internet? you make no sense

AffinityForEvil
Me and neo cloud 8900 have had 3 fights so far. Hes 16 and I am 17 and he still won the first time. I wont the other two though, but yesterday he beat two people in about 10 min or so. This kind of fighting is not pointless, the whole point like cloud said is "when you fight willingly, and not out of anger, you have truly let go. there is nothing like fighting with a friend and still being friends afterwards" Its all fun and you shouldn't say its stupid like Shakezulah until you have tryed it. It is so fun just to fight. "Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing." The quote is very true, so go out and fight for fun. not out of anger. thumbsup.gif
Super Pancake
QUOTE(AffinityForEvil @ May 26 2005, 03:59 PM)
Me and neo cloud 8900 have had 3 fights so far. Hes 16 and I am 17 and he still won the first time. I wont the other two though, but yesterday he beat two people in about 10 min or so. This kind of fighting is not pointless, the whole point like cloud said is "when you fight willingly, and not out of anger, you have truly let go. there is nothing like fighting with a friend and still being friends afterwards" Its all fun and you shouldn't say its stupid like Shakezulah until you have tryed it. It is so fun just to fight. "Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing." The quote is very true, so go out and fight for fun. not out of anger.  thumbsup.gif
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Looking at your avatar it make's me ask the question "what would Jesus do"? laugh.gif

Seriously though, don't you think using all that energy would be best suited for sports instead, your bond with your friend is strong, but a fight club. You know Tyler was insane but cool, yet still insane, you don't want to meet a guy like him!
AffinityForEvil
Fight club is sorta a sport and very fun at that. You bonds with your friend will get stronger as you beat the hell out of them. But its all in good fun. Insane is ok also. I would love to meet some on like him some time. He would mess me up tho.
seeking
well technically fighting is a sport (boxing, kick boxing, wrestling, etc) but imo it seems as if you guys are just trying to come off as "tough guys" here and in the real world
AffinityForEvil
we are not trying to come off as "tough guys." The whole point we fight for is fun. You can fight a friend and not be pissed at him after. look at it as our own sport then, its just like boxing, kick boxing, wrestling, etc, but we have our own rules and no protective gear. Its all fun and games, and i hope no one looses an eye.
__Kratos__
The message in the movie was a type of hardcore buddhism. Cept the part about bonds, buddhism doesn't really agree with that. I've watched Fight Club a number of times since it has come out, actually more then a healthy dose. tongue.gif Through pain we see and do great things. Pain is what sort of defines our life. To lose it all and see you will be happy vs working like a dog for stuff that doesn't ever matter and live miserable. How many people around the world work overtime and work double jobs so they can have that nice car that sits in the driveway? If you never want it, you will never suffer its effects. The fact that he wanted to be free so bad, that he had to create a whole new person for him to evolve just shows that through the years of conditioning you can't just say "I'm losing it all!" you need something to work for to lose it all.
WTS
Great movie. As far as the message.... I get into deep when I go into that, so I stay away most ppl become brain dead because they can't handle my knowledge.

[EDIT: removed swearing again]
Dowdy
i read somewhere that this type of group is called "Urban Terrorists"

They do make alot of good points though - "The things you own, end up owing you"

It made good points about money and meterial possessions, but the world isn't a utopia where everything is free so i guess we'll just stick to being our greedy little selves - unless you live in a church or temple where everything is tax free and money is come by peoples donations tongue.gif
Squall163
What is everyones take on why the number on Marla's door is 16 with an outline of a 3.......
I couldn't figure this one out....




p.s. my name is just a coincidence
AffinityForEvil
its probbly suposed to be a number fell off
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