Riiiight.

Piece of grit, or is it something that rhymes with grit?

does anyone no the name of that METAL SPHERE that is sitting in the middle of the South American Jungle... in the middle of nowhere.. like that Tall Poll... i dont think its made of metal, i actually think it was Bronze, i knew at one point, anyways, does anyone no the name of it?? or can anyone tell me a lil more about it, if you reconginize this?.. thanks!!!

Only spheres I can think of are the stone spheres of Costa Rica

Is that what you're thinking of?

As for the S African objects, well.....



http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/spheres.html

Only one sphere ever had grooves around it - and anyone could have carved them......

like jokers trying to make it look like a cricket ball.....

no thats not what im talkin about... there is like this GIANT POLL just sitting in the middle of the desert i have it, its actually in the book called the CHARIOTS OF GOD i beilive somewhere in the middle of the book you will find it and a picture!!!

LucidElement Posted May 26 2005, 02:45 AM
does anyone no the name of that METAL SPHERE that is sitting in the middle of the South American Jungle... in the middle of nowhere.. like that Tall Poll... i dont think its made of metal, i actually think it was Bronze, i knew at one point, anyways, does anyone no the name of it?? or can anyone tell me a lil more about it, if you reconginize this?.. thanks!!!


You mean the spheres?

are you seriously asking for verification of something in an Erich Von Daniken book lucid
now that is funny

yes
and hes great entertainment too

The article didn't mention if the core had magnetic properties. Metallic spheres could be found in nature if perhaps formed over many years around magnetic matter.

Maybe, but spephres that are metallic would'nt be that common, but if it had megnectic properties then you could Most likely (not saying all likely) say it's made unnatrually

I could not find any reference to magnetic properties, but here is some more info on their roundness and the grooves:

"While playing with the stone on a very flat surface at a restaurant one day, Hund realized it was very well balanced. He took it to the California Space Institute at the University of California to have tests done to determine just how well balanced it was. "It turned out that the balance is so fine, it exceeded the limit of their measuring technology and these are the guys who make gyrocompasses for NASA.

The stone is balanced to within one-hundred thousandths of an inch from absolute perfection," explains Hund. Nobody knows what these stones are. One NASA scientist told Hund that they do not have the technology to create anything as finely balanced as this. He said the only way that either nature or human technology could create something so finely balanced would be in zero gravity.

Here is an extract of Mr. Hund's letter:


The excistence of the sphere came to my attetion ca 1977 while removing endangered rock engravings from the site where pyrophyllite or "wonderstone", as it is commonly known in the region, is mined on the farm Gestoptefontein (meaning plugged fountain) near the little village of Ottosdal about 110 km from Klerksdorp in South Africa's Northwest Province.
I was intrigued by the form of the spheres, grooves around the middle and the fact that they are as hard as steel, while the material (pyrophyllite) in which they are found, is as soft as limestone with a count of only 3 on the Moh scale. As you probably know, pyrophyllite (Al2 Si4 O10 (OH)2) is a secondary mineral and the deposits were formed by a process of sedimentation. On Gestoptefontein volcanic activity was responsible for the forming of outcrops varying in height from about 10 to 100 meters. The smooth and relatively soft surface on the slopes were ideal for the prehistoric dwellers (San) to make their engravings of animal and abstract designs.

On Gestoptefontein these outcrops were "swan" into huge pieces by means of twisted steel cables running zig-zag on pulleys for several kilometers. These blocks were then sawn by the same method into more manageable pieces of about 500 x 500 mm. Occasionally the "sawing cable" got stuck on one of the metal spheres embedded in the pyrophyllite.

On Gestoptefontein these outcrops were "swan" into huge pieces by means of twisted steel cables running zig-zag on pulleys for several kilometers. These blocks were then sawn by the same method into more manageable pieces of about 500 x 500 mm. Occasionally the "sawing cable" got stuck on one of the metal spheres embedded in the pyrophyllite.

According to Professor Andries Bisschoff of the University of Potchefstroom (retired some years ago) they are limonite concretions. Due to the relative scarcity of the spheres and the almost impossibility for outsiders to obtain samples from the mine, his conclusions have not been verified by other scientists.

It is very strange that the grooves are always and only round the center. Mr. Credo Mutwa, a notorious witch doctor from the city of Soweto was brought to the museum by a TV - team some years ago and he as well as some amateur archaeologists believed the spheres to be from outer space. It is also hard for me to believe their theory. The original sphere exhibited in this museum was stolen by a white sangoma (witch - doctor) - not Mr. Mutwa, for its supposedly magic qualities and was never retrieved. "

People, who talked with Mr. Hurd, at California Space Institute, were contacted about Mr. Hurd's statements. Although they remembered talking with him, they lacked any recollection of ever having stated what Mr. Hurd claimed that they stated in his letter and lacked any idea where he got the information stated in his letter. Also, they noted that the statement about them making gyrocompasses for NASA is complately false.

There is more discussion about what has been found out the Ottosdal spheres at:

http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?1,33247...2478#msg-332478

and

http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?1,33247...2835#msg-332835

The article stated that one so-called "sphere" "looks like a cow paddy and another
one consists of a cluster of "spheres" joined together like soap bubbles." The claim that these spheres are all perfectly round is pure fiction. The general gist of these articles, based on observations made on actual specimens, of which a couple have been sliced open with a rock saw, is that they are nothing more than pyrite concretions, which have been replaced by hematite, goethite, and other iron oxides.

Wow this is really weird, I cant think of any good explanations

Either its somehow by a Uber Miracle created by nature, which is kinda doubtfull, or its made by the aliens from the moon of Saturn, which is also kinda doubtfull. Really interesting this

I started out about 8 years ago researching UFO data I could get my hands on as a hobby. Within the first two years I kept running across things that were found on Earth that shouldn't be here with us. Nails found in coal, Jewlery found in coal. Iron pots found in stone millions of years old. These things kept showing up and some would be twisted into information of alien artifacts found on Earth. Everyone has to live outside the box to even be snooping around in this web site. And we all have our own beliefs rather its good or bad. But I enjoy reading all of them because a few people have made some real good ones. So here is mine folks and I am no scientist or anything but I am old enough to look beyond that thin wall we are brought up to not look past. This old planet has had life on it of an advanced civilization long ago. I think that time was long before where Earth sits now in the solar system. Earth was once a chunk of another planet that went nova and it formed all over again where it sits now. Perhaps even the moon and other surrounding plants may also be chunks of the old plant all of the same. Over time they formed with other particles from other planets or stars that ended at some point in history. Who is to say that what life that lived and ended on the old plant did not leave behind a trace of life in some sort rather it be DNA or living cells that formed basically the same life form all over again. We are not the first and as we look to the heavens for life other than our own perhaps its so close to us we walk on top of it every day with little thought. We are not the first and we will not be the last. If this planet is wiped clean of all life tomorrow I belive nature will put things back together all over again in the future. A day may come when animals thought to have been exteint from Earth will walk again before our own eyes. If not the same species maybe with a slight twist. Given water and air and the perfect temperture with a few million years to hatch out life can rebirth without the use of a host. Mother Earth !

Marduk is right about nature creating stieght lines all the time, look at the lines made by water rising and lowering,that can leave stieght lines for hundreds of km. Look at a cup of coffee left on your desk at work over the weekend you can see it. straight but forming to what ever contains it.

The lines on the balls of iron though hmmm, if the are raised lines then maybe this ball was in liquid that evaporated, if the lines are indented then what???? and another question how does nature make a metal ball?

I don't think anyone so far has answered how nature make's a round ball, The sad thing here is we no longer have Marduk to give he's deep incite into history, what a lost and shame that is...

He's gone?

Did marduk quit??? I know I didn't know you well marduk, but I'll miss you buddy!!!

Why did marduk quit?

This is not the place to discuss the coming and goings of other members. On topic please.

If these spheres are actually the real deal as described by the Curator of the museum and not natural artifacts then what would their purpose have been?

This may sound silly but they sure look like seed pods to me, maybe they are the original seed pods that brought carbon based life to earth when it was still in formation. In terms of age that would be about right.

Intresting point. i never thought of it that way before, older cultures sure but set in a diffrent soloar ssystem, hows to say it dident happen.

There is a slight problem with what makesyouwonder said and that is the simple fact that 1st, planets don't go nova even though they may break up under extreme circumstances.

2nd, A stellar system that goes nova will be completely sterilized by the EMP pulse that would arrive even before the blast wave melted and vaporised the planet in question. Nothing, I mean nothing would survive fom the inner planets to the outer ones as well.

Any ejected matter that was thrown out of such an event would not contain life of any kind. The nebulae (ex: crab nebula) that we see in the sky are the remains of such nova events that happened many thousands or millions of years ago. Even though the expelled matter may coalesse into a new sun again later on and new life arise, it will never be a result of any DNA surviving from one event to another.

When I first saw the spheres, I immediately thought of the panspermia theory.

In the NBC program The Mysterious Origins of Man the following claims were made by Charlton Heston

In Klerksdorp, South Africa, hundreds of metallic spheres were found by miners in Precambrian strata said to be a fantastic 2.8 billion years old. The controversy centers around fine grooves encircling some of the spheres. Lab technicians were at a loss to explain how they could have been formed by any known, natural process.

In the above comments, The Mysterious Origins of Man is vague in two matters. First, as noted in Forbidden Archeology, the mystery spheres actually come from wonderstone quarries closer to Ottosdal, West Transvaal, South Africa than Klerksdorp. Saying that these spheres come from in Klerksdorp is confusing as it implies incorrectly that these nodules come from local gold mines. This lead to incorrect speculation on the basis of this bad data that they were pyrite concretions from the gold-bearing quartzite conglomerates. Finally, this video fails to name who the lab technicians that examined these spheres were. As a result, it is impossible to make any assessment of their expertise and credibility.

Silentom

Although panspermia is a possible theory for the origin of life on earth it has yet to be proven conclusively. Although this exhange of living DNA in the form of dormant microbes may possibly occur between planets of the same star system it is unlikely that life would be able to survive the millions if not billions of years for a meteor or comet to traverse intergalactic distances and then reach a suitable planet.

If life is actually taken from one star system to another, the odds are that it would have to be done with intelligent design, ie:

seeding a planet on purpose with microbes and DNA sequences that can develop from there on. If the idea is to terraform a planet that is where one would start. Later one could introduce gradually more complicated or evolved forms of life to speed up the process.

There is also the possibility that in the case of purposefully seeding other worlds with a common denominator of life (carbon based lifeforms) that one would get similar results on different worlds given similar conditions for evolution to take its course.

hehehe, ever wonder why most alien encounters have aliens with humanoid features?

As for the metallic spheres, they would be an example of what I would use to start the dissemination of the 1st basic lifeforms that would sart the life process on this planet. Drop them by the thousands from orbit into a sea or lake that has the correct chemical ingredients for life to take hold and develop.

To this day even with all the speculation and experiments, no one knows how the 1st inorganic, chemical soup tranformed into the 1st single celled organism. Maybe it had a little help!

unless they wanted us to use are brain to think about stuff and what better to leave then a rally hard ball that wount corrode over time

not about this but your picture? anything to do with the dark union? du?