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dattaswami
Some people say that meditation is sitting with perfect silence without any process of thought. Such a contention is meaningless because it virtually amounts to a nice sleep only. These people further misinterpret that such a meditation is concentration on formless God (Nirakara).

Gita says that one cannot concentrate on formless God (Avyakthahi Gatih). The meditation of formless God becomes true if one concentrate on the true knowledge of God. Veda says that true knowledge is the real form of the Lord (Satyam Jnanam Anantam Brahma). Knowledge is formless. Therefore the formless God means only the true divine knowledge about the Lord. This is the correct interpretation of Sankaras philosophy.

The great ancient Vedic sages sat in the formless meditation and this statement means that they concentrated on the divine knowledge (Brahma Jnana) which was expressed as Upanishaths in their mutual discussions (Satsanga).

The actual meaning of the word Dhyanam is the process of functioning of intelligence (Dhee or Buddhi) and this pertains to the field of knowledge (Vijnanamaykosa). Some people interpret that meditation means concentration on the form of the Lord like the light blue colour, peacock feather on the head, flute in the hand etc., Instead of concentrating mentally upon such objects, one can see these things in a photo or see the objects directly kept on a table. If these things constitute the divinity there is no need of concentrating on these things. One can attain the divinity by applying light blue colour on his own body, by putting a peacock feather on the head and by catching a flute by hand. Such a divinity can be attained without any meditation. So meditation becomes meaningless in such a line. This is the reason why Sankara discarded the meditation of a form (Saguna Brahman).

Ofcourse attraction by such things towards the Lord will help a person to develop the attachment on the Lord. One may be attracted to Lord Krishna by such things and then finally get attracted towards His divine knowledge as preached in Bhagavatgita. Such things may be initial promoters but the final is only the divine knowledge, which will help any one in his effort (Sadhana) to please the Lord. The divine knowledge resulting in the realization will impart a tension free peace and tranquility to the mind. By such state one will attain perfect health of body and mind and thus the benefit is directly seen here itself.

Ex:- If one realizes that this gross body of the soul is only the external dramatic dress as said in Gita (Vaasamsi Jeernani), he will immediately realize that these family bonds are only the bonds in the drama. The soul forgets the bonds of the previous birth as an actor forgets the bonds of previous drama. If these bonds are real the soul should have remembered its relatives of the previous birth. Such a divine knowledge on memorization enters the nerves of a person and he will not have any tension about his family members. He does his duties without any trace of tension. This is the salvation while alive (Jeevanmukthi).

Thus meditation means continuous remembering of the divine knowledge which yields the direct fruit here itself. Such a person gets a fruit in the upper world also. The only one Lord is the authority here and there also. Anybody blessed here will be blessed there also. If one is not blessed here he is not blessed in the upper world also. The grace of the Lord or the anger of the Lord is uniform here and there. One who is not blessed here cannot be blessed there. Thus the true knowledge blesses any person here and there. Meditation is continuous thinking of such knowledge and other interpretations are either useless or of little use.

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GoddessWhispers
Hyperactive, what were we saying about meditation, in Swami's other posting? wink2.gif



user posted imageSwami SPAM link. (read familiar!?)



If that Author JDHowes was edited for commercial promotion.....
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Some people say that meditation is sitting as this asana and one will attain perfect health of body and mind and thus the benefit is directly seen here itself. laugh.gif
GoddessWhispers
user posted image"Dang, if you ain't photogenic!" tongue.gif

I have respect for meditation and yoga. I just think it's rude to copy & paste articles on topics related to the theme of a Message Board (like UM and the SPAM link above), for the sole purpose of promotion.

If your going to C&P, at least flub with the wording a bit so it reads as if your hoping to illicit conversation on the issue. But don't post and then give a link to a website where you've C&P'd and photoshopped , someone elses face onto images relative to the various religions of the world! What have other members here said about trying to convert peoples belief system!?

And the tenor of this and the Yoga posting by Swami, whereby their talking down to other's ideology, as if we haven't a clue and so the articles posted are intended to let us know that, is self serving and , quite frankly, arrogant!! And that, in and of itself, is contrary to the very notion of dharma .




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theoric
@gw: i never looked at the address in swami's sig...
author jd was a bit more "in your face" with his approach. was/is swami's site selling something?

too much worrying over little things. have trust in the moderators.
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