That does seem very small, I am trying to keep an open mind even if it does not seem like it.

(ps. I hope someone remembers to post about me getting 1000 posts, well I will have soon.)

I do consider it a possibilty.

However, it still seems a bit far fetched. Don't you think?

Noah well he is my great great grandpa. He told me of this story a long time ago. He said he just dispised those giraffes because they always had their necks in the way. Oh and grandma she ate too much.

101.

Yes it is quite a hard thing to believe Amalgamut, I am just saying there is evidence behind it.

Congrats

Here is a link to "Noah's Ark."

It will give you a better idea on how big it actually was.

Noah's Ark

Thanks, do I have to beg to get a thread for it?

Nice link...I'll give it a further read.

Yeah I think you might have to.

Hell, I havent gotten one. But then again, I honestly don't care.

Should have had a joint one...

Back on topic now I suppose. There is not a lot left to say though.

Q: What vegetable did Noah take on the ark?

















A: A Leek....

Oh I am sorry guys,

But to get back on topic. Noah had 3 sons and 3c wives. What are you talking about chinese ,african, and like portugesse children marduk? I mean this is crazy. Maybe some of noahs descendants moved to China causing them to take on different charateristics.

I think marduk is still confused on what he was trying to ask in regards to "God trying to kill the earth but failing."

yeah I was wondering where marduk got that from. He may have been being ironic though...

Hmmm so all of Noah's other relatives must have been evil. This story is similar to a Greek myth, and there are probably lots of versions of it.
This could actually enhance it's believability...

The Christian creation story is strikingly similar to the Muslim one...

Yeah I mean. So what are we all black,asian,puerto rican,english, vietnamese? I am a bit confused to his logic.

whatever.

Well, Islam actually came from Christianity.

Muhammud came aounrd in 600 A.D and pronounced that Jesus was not the son of God.

The Koran, actually contains many parts of the OT. I personally have never picked up a copy of it, but have read about it briefly.

It's ok 101, I can barely make out what he says half the time!

I think it happened.. but it was just a natural occurence that religion adopted into their teachings.

You are sure that Islam came from Chrisianity and not the other way round?

Well actually no one can be sure as a popular theory dictates that Jesus was turned from a prophet to the son of God, around 400AD

100% positive

Judaism<Christianity<Islam

Where are you getting this date from?

IMO, it was a couple of tsumani's ...

It is a theory, seach it on the internet. I think it talks something about a Roman Emperor, or republic leader, deifiying christ for his own means.

See i've had this discussion before
and i know its pointless
Christians say that god is all powerfull and all knowing and infallible
Yet he makes several mistakes in the bible
fair enough it might have been misreported when noah wrote it down.
But he didn't write it down did he
Moses is credited with writing the oldtestament
and moses was jewish
he wasn't even a christian
Christianity didn't exist then
Not for another 600 years
So how do you know any bible stories
you know them because they were written by men in a book for men to read
The old christian answer of "you have to have faith" is just like saying " i don't have an answer".
And clearly nobody who believes the bible has an answer for any of the inconsistencies in it
Just for an example amalgamut you realise that for most of this thread you've been arguing with mr ed. Well Mr Ed is 17 years old
and he's still smarter and nowhere near as naieve as you were
You can't build a boat to those dimensions and then fit in two of every species on earth. Every marine animal would have died because rainwater is fresh water not saltwater. Every plant would have died because they can't survive being submerged for a week let alone 40 days
every bird would have died because they need to land to rest sometime.
Noah didn't have fishtanks did he
Noah didn't have buckets of earth with trees in did he
If you knew anymore about history than you do about genetics you'd realise that the noah myth isn't the original story
The original story doesn't claim two of each animal. Thats an elaboration that appears only in the jewish version
Mind you the original story doesn't concern the wrath of god at all but a much more mundane ocaen journey and a storm at sea
At least the original noah took a navigator and animals for food
But hey whatever floats your boat if you're a christian you've been brainwashed by birth not to question your religion and been told that if anything difficult comes along to just have faith
Christianity has no ruling that you have to have any intelligence whatsoever and thats clearly apparent by the line of your argument
If god as you want to know him exists. Then i'm afraid you may be faced with the prospect that at some point some of you are going to HELL
make sure you take a good sunblock
You'll need it

Thats when the new testament was written
for a self proclaimed christian you certainly don't know much about it do you

You must be referring to Constantine and the Council of Nicea.

Basically, there was some confusion in the churches as to who Christ was.

Most of the churches believed that Jesus was the Son of God, however some others were confused about this at the time and thought differently.

There was a big meeting to set the record strait.

The churches who believed that Jesus was the son of God were correct, it just that it was made official to all the churches at this time. This council was called to inform the churches that Jesus was the son of God.

Its almost the same thing as me holding a huge meeting and stating that George Washington was the first president of the United States.

Here is some information on the Council of Niceae..

Council of Niceae

Can't read it sorry, the site is blocked by my stupid filter.

I think you should be focusing on responding to marduk's latest comments though...

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. First of all, Noah did not take any marine animals on board his ship.

Secondly, the NT was not written in 400 AD.

The stories to make the NT were written much earlier. It may have all been put together in 400 AD. But the stories from it were not all written at this time.

Matter of fact, the book of Revelation was written around 90 AD.

And we all know (at least I hope) that this was the last book of the NT.

Marduk, how dare you judge someone! This is not your place at all. Only God can judghe us. You are so mean. I am very disappointed in the remarks you made againist Amalgumat. This was mean.

BTW what were you saying about the races of noahs descendants again? Or did you forget?

lol so i'm not allowed to judge but you can judge me
thats hypocrisy in action for you
better get it right because i am not a devotee of your god
so i can judge who the hell i like
I don't forget anything
and you are clearly an idiot if you can't see what i was saying when it was written in your own language
Noahs kids were the same race as noah
they were not chinese , african or any other race.
white people do not ever change into chinese or africans
caucasians, negroes and mongoloids are the end result of evoulution
by the only standards applicable that means noah was a member of the species homo erectus
He was a monkey
his story certainly makes a monkey out of all you folk who are gullible to believe it
Tell me again then how the bible is supposed to be the word of god but wasn't written by him
The new testament WAS written in ad 400
that was the first time the stories were put together
because that was whn christianity became an organised religion and needed a book to quote from
they've been doing it ever since
The old testament is jewish in origin. It was written in 550bce while the jews were in exile in babylon
theres no evidence that they were ever in egypt and the earlier versions of the books that now appear in your bible aren't as elaborate.
In other words as time passed people added bits to it
People
Not God
Do you understand now or should i write only in words with one sylable

Marduk, I wasn't being a hipocrit by pointing out what you said to amal. But that is besides the point.

You my friend might in fact be evolved from monkeys but I doubt something like me would develop from flea eating creatures.

That is mean how you degrade me by saying I am stupid and can't read. You said that noahs descendants were african and chinese. You made this remark not me.

Anyways I do understand what you saying. You jerk. This is just why I don't have conversations with people like you. You try to make others feel bad to compensate for your manhood.

If you even have any?

101

oooh
so you start off by saying that god is the only one that is allowed to judge people
then you go on to say that i'm compensating for my manhood and that i'm a jerk
you really are a poor christian aren't you to go judging me again
In fact my manhood is very impressive and i have no end of female sexual partners lining up at my door
your blurb on your profile is very enlightening however
"watching lightning and talking about religion. I also talking about the paranormal. My favorite show is the X-Files imagine that. I also enjoy art. My favorite artist is Salvador Dali. Surrealism is the best. "
from your responses i can tell that you are a very insecure individual with paranoid impulses.
I'd go see a shrink if i were you
By the way you're not talking about religion at the moment
you're just talking crap
which one of the x files would you most like to shag
fox or dana ?
personally i'd imagine the best you could get would be frohike

oh and despite your denial you are being a hippocrite
as everyone in this public forum can see

He does? Where, show me please. Keep in mind, you said that God did not write the book, humans did. So how could God make mistakes if he didn't write it? Regardless, show me these "mistakes."

Noah isn't credited for writing the OT. Nor any story in it. Nor did I say he was.

And your point is?

I never said "you have to have faith" did I?

Really? Like what? Name two.

Hmm.. ok. Well on the same note he is smarter than you are.

Noah didn't take ANY marine animals on the boat. If he did, show me some scripture. Nor does it say he took every plant.

Maybe he took some birds on the boat? Maybe some birds hovered over the boat and rested when they needed to rest. Did you ever think about that?

Noah didn't take any fish on the boat! Again I ask you, where does it say this? (It doesn't) Regardless, why would he need to do this when all the fish live in the water anyway? The flood would only give the fish more room to swim in.

It doesn't say Noah took any trees.

Marduk, you crack me up. Last time I checked the original version of the Bible
(OT) was the JEWISH version. It was written by JEWS! Did you think that Mormans wrote it?

Hmm...ok, can you show me the "original story" please?

Ummm...he did this anyway. At least in the Bible it says he did. Is this the original story you were talking about?

So you think Christians are brainwashed? Hmm...common misconception. You act like I haven't questioned my religion before.

Likewise, considering you don't even know what the bible talks about. You still think that "God tried to kill the earth but failed." I can see why you are confused. I ask you for a scripture to back your thoughts on the bible, and you give me some random line that is in no way relevant to your argument.

Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

First off, everyone step away from the keyboard and calm down. Take deep breaths and remember that this is just a discussion, not the end of the world. There is no need for name calling on either side.

Now, if Noah, his wife, and 3 sons and daughters in law were aboard this mythic version of the SS Minnow, and, if they were the only 8 people left on the planet, how many times would Noah have to copulate with each of the 4 women to repopulate the planet? And each of his sons?

Using the example of animals, when breeders of pure breed dogs mate animals in the same blood line for postive traits, they are also dooming future generations of the breed to defects. Example: We had owned a tri-color collie. When we got her, the breeders told us that the animal, due to over breeding of the breed, were prone to hip displasia, and optic degeneration.
In humans, inbreeding (ie a brother & sister) would be unlikely to display any overt genetic defects in their offspring, although the offspring WOULD carry many recessive genes received from the parents. If the offspring bred with each other, then THEIR children would begin to display gross anatomic defects. The effects only worsen as you go down the line.

As to the point Marduk was making earlier, if the eight members of the crew of the SS Menagerie were all Hebrew, and the population of the world was wiped out, where did the various racial sub types spring from?

Some earlier mentioned grandchildren of Noah migrating to china and 'developing different characteristics". Wouldn't that be more properly called...

"Evolution?"

Dear Marduk, I am sorry. I shouldn't have made a comment about your manhood. This was wrong. But What is wrong with my interests really? See a shrink. That hurts. anyways please forgive me for those unkind words I used. I apologize.

now thats sorted, we can talk about floods....

What if Noahs wife was a different race from him? What if his children reproduced with his wife? What if ? What if? The same question arises with your theory of evolution. How do you know the population did not fill out? And the people evolved into different races?


No.

Possibly so, but this does not mean ANY story out of the NT was written in 400 A.D.

It's like me taking a whole bunch of newspapers from the last century and combining them into one big newspaper. Does this mean they were all written at the time I put them all into one? No.

And? Your vague point is?


Again, my same statement applies to this one. Some of writtings of the OT go back to 1500 BC. Remember this is a story, so writting things in 550 BC would be understandable considering some of the story has not happend yet. Its like being a journalist. Besides, you have no point here.

And I thought that this was a 'dirty' word for you? I thought that there was no such animal as evolution, yet here on this single thread we have two believers using the concept.

It truly is a sign of the end of days.

I have always said that evolution is compatible with the Bible. Even Pope John Paul II said it.

I still think that the theory of Jesus being deified 400 years after his death his believable and deserves some thought.

are u sure thta idea hasnt 'washed away' yet?
sorry culdnt resist

hey roswell
youre up to the second year of the first world war on your posts
soon be up to date huh

Did I hear something a while back about how the Mediterranean was once a lush valley that was not all under water, Around 25 to 30 thousand years ago? That would explain several things like how the royalty of Europe show lions and other African beasts on coat of arms. ETC

Also possible the fall of Atlantis which was said to beyond the Pillars of Hercules but which pillars? The ones the modern world speaks of? Or the older Original ones? So if the region flooded into the modern Mediterranean then it could solve all those issues maybe the Atlantic flooded in washed out a fairly sophisticated society
" Atlantis " It was a " Great Flood " and it would answer a great many others question like the similarity between many languages both in Europe and Middle East and North Africa.

The Nile area was flooded out in ancient times, the Sphinx

“ Which some claim to be much older than the oldest Egyptian History we know “

claim it to be as old as 20 to 25 thousand years old “shows heavy water damage”
Could be a result of the ancient wash out from the Atlantic before it stabilized to nearly modern terms as we have it now

hmmmm
you realise that you've just disqualified your reputation by mentioning the "A" word
the sphinx does show signs of water erosion. But it shows it the most on the upper surface so its only attributable to rainfall
its currently thought to be between 3000 and 7000 years old

I mentioned the "A" word not as fact but as part of an explanation not to say the legend is true far from it but how the legend of "A" got started in the first place

It was the Annunaki.

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Did you read the link I gave you about the Council? It will clear some things up.

The flood is in Enoch (Enoch, Noah's great-grandfather) which also deals with Noah and the flood he would be saved from.

The flood was sent to kill off the Nephilim, the human/angel (resulting hybrid 'Nephilim') and the Nephilim/animal hybrids created from the mixing of Nephilim with 200 of every species on Earth, (Dinosaurs, they reached 45ft, ate other animals, birds, reptiles, humans, and eventually each other, toward the end, nearly to extinction prior to the flood, turned the Earth into a bloodbath). This flood was caused by several asteroid hits to the ocean (there is evidence of this in an asteroid hit in the ocean dating back to the 'Cretaceous Period') which caused global climatic changes, several gloabal tsunami's, and an eventual flood. After this, that flood water 'turned to ice' and became what is now known as the Ice Age.

The Eyptians DO have a record of a flood. Actually, it was written by a Arab and found near a pyramid, that a 'being from the sky' (angel) came down to warn him of a global flood, taught him the scientific and mathematical ability to build a pyramid and those resulting pyramids were used to save people from the flood. Why do you think there are doors at the top of the pyramids, what dead corpse needs that?

So, yes, I do believe there was a global flood, even the Greeks have an account of it, flavoured by their own cultural influences. And it was to wipe out the Nephilim and what we now call 'dinosaurs', so I'd sa there was damn good reason for it. I refuse to add to your poll however, as you give no option t say there was a flood without saying God is guilty of mass genocide. If dinosaurs and man still co-existed (and according to these texts, they did NOT, they were hybrids of originally created animals, turning the Earth into a bloodbath) who do you think would be causing the mass genocide? I'd say man wouldn't even still be here to tell the story.

You know i like you ashley
you make me laugh (sincere)

thanks for that

Marduk? I'm still waiting on your reply about how Noah gathered marine animals onto the ark?

Show me the scripture?

uh duh
thats because you can't read english
I said that he would have to build aquariums to save all the fish
as you have pointed out he didn't
but all the fish are still with us
ok