And I'm talking about writing WITH papyrus and ink, it specifically states papyrus and ink.

Now, I'm sure you're also aware, being so historically up-to-date and all, that the Egyptians started writing out of NOWHERE, there were no stages, they just started writing. In fact they seemed to appear out of nowhere themselves.

The Summerians are as much relevant to this as the Egyptians. It states they (the angels) went to EVERY CORNER OF THE EARTH. The Egyptians however, seem to show the most signs of relevance to what they taught, and the fact that Enoch was Ethiopian, and Egypt is close to Ethiopia is no surprise.
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Something never appears out of nothing, my dear. The AE's never just "started" writing. That is literially IMPOSSIBLE from any standpoint or belief! In order for a reasonable writing dialotec to be established certain evolutional principles must have been set. Imigrants must have taught the AE's their language and then the AE's evolved that language into pictographs and hieroglyths we see today in stone. Forgive the horrideous spelling.
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What you think people didn't travel then?

Their scribe Thoth WAS Enoch. Go google it or something.
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Actually hieroglyphs did appear from nowhere but they greatly developed in both grammer and number over the millenia.

That is IMPOSSIBLE, Marduk! How do you know this? Any 411 to back-up your claims?
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And you remember the words argumentative and tactful, right?  I'd suggest you bone up on these words instead of blowing your top at every tom and dick who you think has an opposing view than yours.  Stop pointing fingers and preaching to the converted of how wrong the world is and how right you think you are.  You're an intelligent guy!  Just cool your jets and calm down in your posts.  And for gods sake stop cutting your sentences in half. Your posts are always so choppy.  Unife them to make them more neat and readable.  Please!
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The Egyptians didn't have angels....DIDN'T THEY!? Have you seen the winged women they have on their mummy cases and tombs?

PROVE hey evolved over time. It appeared out of nowhere, just like they did. Making a few changes here and there in years to come does not change the fact that the actual writing did NOT begin in ANY stages, it was a complete written language out of NOWHERE.
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So basically you want me to be nice to everyone all the time and not to tell people the correct factual information and to tailor my style of posting so that its easier for you to read
what do you want me to do as an encore

i think that maybe you're asking a little too much when instead you should be thanking me for showing you that your personal belief was 100% wrong.
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That is IMPOSSIBLE, Marduk! How do you know this? Any 411 to back-up your claims?
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And where is this 411?  Any sites?  I would like to view them.  Something cannot come from nothing.
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That is IMPOSSIBLE, Marduk! How do you know this? Any 411 to back-up your claims?
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Back on topic, however, it amazes me how many people can claim to be "open-minded" and free thinking on any range of topics, including and not limited to UFOs and paranormal phenomena, but their minds become rusty steel traps when religion enters the conversation.  Notice, if you will, the poll from some pages back.  Nowhere was there the option to choose "the Bible is accurate in it's flood stories" without the by-line of "God is guilty of attempting genocide".  How vulgar.

Shame on you if you can accept the possibility of alien astronauts and "Annunaki" but refuse to think openly about a Judeo-Christian (or any other major religion's) God.  Not only is open and honest thought not attempted, but there isn't even research or investigation done before the theories and stories of a religion are disregarded.
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I read the other 20 or so pages "full of it"...because I actually do a bit of investigation before spouting off.  I find it works rather well.

I am not wrong about the poll, however.  Nor am I worng when I say that it is astounding that the Bible is so readily dismissable by most people who really dont know why.  Certainly there are "holes," if you will, in parts of the Bible and other religious texts, but no more so than in the story of Valiant Thor.

The topic wants my opinion of the Flood Myth, here it is:  A deluge happened.  I don't know if Noah corralled all the beasties onto his wooden ship or not, but i won't dismiss the idea because the evidence for or against isn't there.
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Never once did I say what my standpoint was.  Do you always draw your own conclusions based on incomplete information and put words in other's mouths? 
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so you're saying you haven't voiced a standpoint
from what i've seen so far your opinion seems to be that everyone who doesn't think like you is wrong
Question
are you a christian by any chance
catholic perhaps ?

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that is exactly what I am saying. I have not voiced a standpoint. I merely said, from the beginning, that I try to include all theories about something before I reach a decision that fits into my worldview, and would not rule out religion with asinine statements like "If the bible is right then God tried to commit genocide." I am not sure why you seem to be having such difficulty with this concept.

Everyone who doesn't "think like me" is certainly not wrong, althought that is apparantly the tact you yourself take. I believe that everyone who does not think about all possibilities before drawing a conclusion is wrong.

"are you a christian by any chance
catholic perhaps ?"

Are you interested because you operate under the assumption that Catholicism or Christianity is wrong? If that is the case, than I say that you can not come to any sort of correct conclusion about any of the major events in question (the flood in this case) because operating under said assumption ignores certain pieces of information from the get-go. I am merely stating basic principles of scientific study, whereby the person formulating an opinion or hypothesis takes all variables and possibilities into account.

This is not hard, man.
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I can't believe you, Marduk!  The man is trying to voice his opinion while attempting to explain holes in the Christian Flood myth and you're all over him like a dog on a hydren.  Just because his view doesn't correspond with yours doesn't give you the right to slap his face and throw fertilizer at his theories.  I think a little anger management is in order.  I keep trying to convey this to you, chill out!
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This thread's STILL GOING!? Someone please, put it out of it's misery....
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No way! Not until people come to their sneses about the Enochian flood!
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It was NOAH'S flood, as told by ENOCH, his great grandfather,

It was NOAH'S flood, as told by ENOCH, his great grandfather, and then AGIN by an angel to MOSES in Jubilees which is where Genesis came from, AFTER.

It isn't a re-telling of anything, OTHER CULTURES re-told the story, like the Greek mythology flood, flavored by THEIR culture.
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Um, uh, some of those "retellings" are older than the "original"...now I'm really confused.
If this thread is going to involve time travel, it should probably be posted somewhere else.
P.S. I voted for Gilgamesh in a dinghy with two of every sheep.
G'night, kids!

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Did Enoch write about Newgrange?

"As far as archeology knows, there were no other buildings on this scale anywhere in the world at this early date. And certainly none known to have been built of crystals. Could anyone doubt it? Enoch describes the building to which he was taken as 'a large house built of crystals' and 'the walls of the house were like a tessellated floor of crystals'. We have never seen a building dressed with white quartz crystal before, let alone one that is in the right place and at the right time of Enoch's visit. Furthermore, the description of the wall looking like a tessellated floor is accurate because the quartz is regularly interspersed with water-rounded black rocks that form the diamond shapes across the entire surface... We continued to inspect the site in a state of awe. Could this really be the place described by one of the ancient heroes of Jewish legend, who lived nearly 2,000 years even before Moses was born?"

More than 2,000 years before the time of King Solomon, Enoch visited some structure that embodied the technology needed to rebuild civilisation after a global flood. Knight and Lomas show that megalithic geo-mathematics was highly sophisticated. Dividing a circle into 366 degrees allowed them to relate seconds and minutes to distances on the ground based on the spin of the earth, its mass and its orbit around the sun. The Book of Enoch, rediscovered by an 18th century Freemason, describes in detail how to build a highly complex machine, which could be used to calculate many things about the earth, its movements and have long-term warnings of any comet that was on course for an Earth impact. In the story the designer of the machine is called Uriel.

The revelation that this is the true purpose of the great megalithic sites of Western Europe and that the Book of Enoch contains precise details of such a machine forms the revolutionary thesis contained in Uriel's Machine. Using hard science and their own reconstruction of an ancient technology, Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas put forward findings that will change the way we view both the origins of Freemasonry and man's distant past.

ref: "Uriel's Machine"
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If it involves time travel then plato must be involved somewhere
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The Book of Jubilees was written in Hebrew by a Pharisee between the year of the accession of Hyrcanus to the high priesthood in 135 and his breach with the Pharisees some years before his death in 105 B.C.

Scholars agree that the Book of Henoch was originally composed either in Hebrew or Aramaic, and that the Ethiopic version was derived from a Greek one. A comparison of the Ethiopic text with the Akhmîn Greek fragment proves that the former is in general a trustworthy translation. The work is a compilation, and its component parts were written in Palestine by Jews of the orthodox Hasidic or Pharisaic schools. Its composite character appears clearly from the palpable differences in eschatology, in the views of the origin of sin and of the character and importance of the Messias found in portions otherwise marked off from each other by diversities of subject. Critics agree that the oldest portions are those included in chapters i-xxxvi and (broadly speaking) lxxi-civ.

It will be seen that the work is a voluminous one. But the most recent research, led by the Rev. R.H. Charles, an English specialist, breaks up this part into at least two distinct constituents. Charles's analysis and dating are: i-xxxvi, the oldest part, composed before 170 B.C.; xxxvii-lxx, lxxxiii-xc, written between 166-161 B.C.; chapters xci-civ between the years 134-95 B.C.; the Book of Parables between 94-64 B.C.; the Book of Celestial Physics, lxxii-lxxviii, lxxxii, lxxix, date undetermined. Criticism recognizes, scattered here and there, interpolations from a lost apocalypse, the Book of Noah. Expert opinion is not united on the date of the composite older portion, i.e. i-xxxvi, lxxi-civ. The preponderant authority represented by Charles and Schürer assigns it to the latter part of the second century before Christ, but Baldensperger would bring it down to a half century before our Era.

But you must admit maeduk that the megolithic sites of Britian and Ireland are still a mystery in some ways.
I've been inside Newgrange at the winter solstice, and its amazing to see the quartz light up.There are probably over 60 stone circles in my County alone, where they erected just to show stoneage farmers when to plant their crops?
They are more than just ancient calanders in my opinion, they were very complex for megolithic man.
I'm not suggesting that aliens built them, but that megolothic man was far more advanced in some ways than commonly percieved.
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