I do believe in the creation story. I believe some parts are literal , and some are not. Such as the whole "day" thing. I don't think the earth was made in seven days.

The book of Genesis was probably written by Moses around 1500 B.C.

So, there is no telling what was meant by some of the things that were talked about in the first chapter of Genesis. ( the his meaning under devine inspiration)

Don't worry about it,
it never did that

The great flood is told as it was in the Bible. And God wasn't just killing to be mean. He had a purpose,all of men were wicked except Noah and his family... That is all.

Indeed^^^ not to mention the world was plagued by a hybrid race.

So god is totally fallible is what you're saying
he sent a flood to kill everything on earth
he failed
and you pray to this guy
hahahahahaha

Where does it say he failed to kill everything on earth?

""I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.""
if you're gonna pretend to be a xtian amalgamut the least you could do is actually read the bible
Genesis 6 :5

you're mortal soul is in jeopardy for making mistakes like that
allegedly

Or are you now going to claim that after all the animals had drowned he repopulated the earth anew
doesn't mention that does it
maybe its in the teachers edition huh
lol

Umm.....you arent making your point.

You said...


I said...


Then, you said...


That scripture says nothing about how God failed to kill everything on the earth....

Try again marduk

God was angry that the world was wicked,but Noah was a righteous man. He was proud of Noah. Noah had faith in God and trusted him. And he had 2 of every animal on the ARK SILLY. One male and the other female so they could reproduce. God was just angry because the world had become wicked. He didn't try to wipe out all of mankind if so he wouldn't have told Noah.

You two believe that only one man and his family survived the flood?

If so, your faith is blinding you.

Yeah? And why is that?

If anything is blinding me its that batman and robin avatar of yours.

You don't know much about genetics if you think you can repopulate the world with two of each animal
didn't you ever wonder why society has laws that forbid you from sleeping with a close relative or are you unaware of that fact and all your family are mutants ?

either way
your omnipotent god said he was going to kill everything
then changed his mind
Thats fallible
going back on a decision shows he didn't think it through properly in the first place
You're lucky your military doesn't act like that
oh wait a minute
it does

Oh it gets better than that
apparently from that one family the kids were all different races
one kid was chinese
another african
etc
etc
what a load of medievil middle eastern crap

Amalgamut- you and I both know the brilliance of my avatar. Sorry, I think the light of the steel circle is signalling me, I must go.

hahaha

yes, now that i think of it you are right.

i do recall you talking about making it.

I know it is off topic, but is it actually clear what my avatar is depicting?

Mr Ed. How is it so hard to comprehend that Naoh and his family could you know repopulate mankind? Hey Mr Ed>

Marduk, Um I don't think I am a mutant? But I think it is crazy how you would think that God with all his power couldn't repopulate the earth with just Noah and his family. I mean how hard is this to understand. I mean the fact that animals reproduce over and over how is this going to cause mutants? have you ever heard of a dog that fathered his daughter and had babys with her to strengthen the bloodline. They do this with Bulldogs all the time.

Hi 101.

I just find it convienient that everyone who needed to be saved was in the right place. That men were more evil than they are now. That babies were wiped out. That they managed to get two of each animal. That we are all inbred. That no one died on the boat considering they had no medicine, many diseases and for some reason no one got scurvy either.

Hmmm...well, if you have two of each animal...wouldn't it be possible?

So, you are telling me that two humans evolved from completely different bloodlines and mated and thats how we are today?



You still haven't shown proof in your claim that "god tried to kill everything but failed".

But even so, where does it say God was going to kill everything then changed his mind?

Marduk?!!? Which one is it? Did he try to kill everything but fail? Or did he say he was going to kill everything but changed his mind? It cannot be both!

It seems to me like you are making things up! Show some scripture to back your claim! Bad marduk! Bad!

Well Mr Ed. Let us say all of Noahs family lived like a hour from each other don't you think they could gather the family in time. And people often didn't get sick back then because they had faith in God and of course herbs. So we are all inbred. Huh? We hey bro what is up. I never knew we were kin. lol. It is just something we can't understand.

Indeed there are some "what if" questions that we may not be able to answer.

Keep in mind they were on the boat for about 40 days.

I'm sure they would be ok.

Well if this bible story is true, then it is Noah's fault that we have some of the degenerative diseases we have today. There is sufficient enough evidence to say that some diseases existed because inbreeding was necessary to sustain some groups of people in remote areas.

I am 80% sure they would not be ok. With that many animals and probable lack of the right food.

Oh like a bad christian fundementalist you're now unable to see the very clear point i have made already
God declares in genesis that he is going to kill everything upon the earth
he then changes his mind when he sees noah
He did try to kill everything because that was what the flood was for
i mean how can you have forgotten about the flood
all you had to do was scroll up
its the title of this thread


"Hmmm...well, if you have two of each animal...wouldn't it be possible?"no theres this thing called biogenetic diversity
thats why humans are generally atrracted to opposites
like i said you know very little about genetics
i can't believe that in the 21st century there are still some people so naieve that they don't realise that the crap written in 400 ad to control people was written solely for that purpose
some people are leaders
some people are led
its fairly obvious which is which

Besides which
why would you support a mass murderer
he killed because in his opinion everyone was evil
little babies were evil
unborn children near birth were evil
ask yourself this question
if satan is responsible for all the evil in the world
Who is responsible for satan
who created him
who bears ultimate responsibility
surely in that event the only case of action would be for god to commit suicide
lets face it when a human is found guilty of attempted genocide we hang them
But did you consider that maybe god is dead
and you lot are just oh so gullible that you've been led by men your whole life cos you can't tell the difference
the bibel was written by men
not god
and there is no gospel according to jesus in it
so everytime you hear someone say "jesus said" , its a lie
he didn't say anything
and nobody wrote anything til he'd been dead for 400 years
how accurate do you think that is

Well, I can assure you that the AIDS virus did not come from Noah. I doubt his family were monkey humpers.

Correct me if I am wrong, but arent we all technically from the same mother? Even if the Bible were false, we all came from one origin, correct? Or, are you suggesting that the evolution of humans was from many other species all over the earth evolving at the same time? And then after that, different evolutionized humans reproduced? That were completely different bloodlines?

The Ark Noah made was huge. I'm sure he packed plenty of the needed materials on the voyage. It took him over 100 years to build the Ark. It would have been a pity if he spent all that time building it, then getting all his family and the animals together, just for him to set sail and then say "Doh! I forgot to bring enough food!" I'm sure he packed all the necessary foods needed prior to the Flood. I'm sure God would have given him enough heads up to know what he needed.

'Correct me if I am wrong, but arent we all technically from the same mother?'

You are wrong. We evolved from apes. There were many female apes and many male apes. Of course there was some inbreeding, but not just one mother, that is ridiculous.


'Well, I can assure you that the AIDS virus did not come from Noah'

I never mentioned AIDS, and sadly you cannot assure me.


'It took him over 100 years to build the Ark'

Further ammunition...


There is no way Noah could have got two of every animal, it would be impossible to do that now.
Don't palm it off on divine intervention. He had enough of that.

Ignoring the total and absolute absence of any evidence for a global flood, any mechanism to cause a global flood, and the sheer impossibility of the global diversity of flora and fauna being collected by Noah, let's assume for the moment that Genesis is the word of God and thus does indeed tell the true story of a true event.

Anyone then care to explain why God told Noah:-

Gen7:2 Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and his mate; and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and his mate; 3 and seven pairs of the birds of the air also, male and female, to keep their kind alive upon the face of all the earth. 4 For in seven days I will send rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living thing that I have made I will blot out from the face of the ground."

But that what he then did was:-

Gen7:8 Of clean animals, and of animals that are not clean, and of birds, and of everything that creeps on the ground, 9 two and two, male and female, went into the ark with Noah, as God had commanded Noah.

Someone made a booby! Naughty Noah!

Well said. I wonder how all the animals got all over the world...Oh yeah god did it, enough said.

surely being enclosed in a small boat with a load of disease ridden b.c. animals would kill off noah's family, plus he took lions on there? wouldnt they kill antelope, or did he build cages for EVERY SINGLE SPECIES on earth

Including elephants...I thought they only had wooden boats then.

It says "but Noah found favor in the Lord."

I fail to see your point. It never says "God tried to kill everything on the earth, but failed" (which was your initial claim).

God killed everything on the earth EXCEPT for Noah and his family. You can clearly read this in Genesis...


So, we clearly see that God killed everything on the earth, just like he wanted.
He never "changed his mind."

He DID kill everything on the earth. Except for Noah. But thats the whole point of the ARK!

Again, your initial claim was that God tried to kill everyone but failed. No, he didn't. He was very successful. God didn't fail at killing anything he wanted to be killed.


First off, we are talking about animals. Not humans.


This "crap" wasn't written in "400 A.D." I thought you knew history?

Man, I would really like to know where you come up with these dates....

Tell me, where are you getting "400 A.D" from?

Well I am sure Noah wasn't a total boob and knew that the animals would try to eat one another or whatever. I believe there were 2 levels of the ark. I will have to see. So until then.

There would have had to been more than two layers of the Ark. Actually the Ark would have had to be about the size of London.

So let me get this right amalgamut
you think the aids virus comes from a man having intercourse with a monkey
to coin a phrase "evidence"
thats total bs

Let me get some scripture on this Mr Ed. Your so silly. size of London. That is pretty big. Maybe even the size of the Titantic. Well that sunk. God should have told then how to build that to.

Ok, you said "of course there was some inbreeding." Thank you for proving my point.

Sadly, you cannot assure the claim you made either.

Do you even know the dimensions of the boat? Of course the "two of every animals" did not apply to any type of fish, which I hope you knew this. And again, this is just your opinion.

Remember the comment you made about the pyramids? I said it would be impossible to do that now, and you replied "well, no one has every tried, so its not impossible."

Well, there ya go.

Got any better suggestions?

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So Read the red letters please.

Thank you.

'Thank you for proving my point'

It was my point from the beggining if you care to check. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

'Do you even know the dimensions of the boat? Of course the "two of every animals" did not apply to any type of fish, which I hope you knew this. And again, this is just your opinion. '

I assumed that because even the writers of Genesis were not silly enought to get people to believe that. Oh, so all the animals all over the world were on an ark that spent 40 days at sea? Oh of course, it all makes sense now.

It makes even more sense, since there are a projected 13-14 million number of species. Good old Noah, thanks to him for building a great big boat...

People believe some really, really, far-fetched stuff.

The unclean animals were used for sacrifice.

Yeah i read the red lettering
Maybe i'm blind
where does it say a man screwed a monkey

Please do tell again.

Actually, if the ark were made by the dimensions that it was recorded, it would float.

Clearly God did not instruct Noah to gather any fish or every plant. Plus, how do you know how many animals existed at that time?

Yeah, like the BB!

I know because it is obvious, actually it is much more likely that millions of more animals existed at that time- before climate change and humans killing them off.

The BB?

It would float- but it would not be big enough to carry 14 million species.

I'm building a jumbo ark just as a contingency.

Yes, and its much more likely that the human race should not exist at all. But hey, we're here. And it says nothing about 14 millions species.

Big Bang.

How do you know it was 14 million species that Noah took on the boat? Maybe he only took 100 different species.

Well how did 14 million species get here today then? According to you, they should have all been wiped out as only 100 of them survived.

Dimensions of the Ark

450 feet long
75 feet wide
45 feet high
18 inch roof

Sorry for double posting, but there is actually a lot of significant evidence to support the Big Bang. Research it and see, they found the radio waves or something. Very interesting.
Much more proof than what the Ark story has.

Out of the 14 million species, how many of those are sea animals?

Im guessing roughly 75%.

Seems as if it would have been a bit cramped.

Doesn't the Bible also say that Noah lived to be 800 years old?

Yeah, something like that.