This Was Brought To My Attention By DunderHead... He thought This Up... So anyone who feels like they have Been Un Noticed at any point and want to form a group or what not... send your name and maybe tell us why!!!!

IM IN.... LUCID ELEMENT!

Well i don't think a group as such will be of best interest as it gives out the wrong signals if you know what i mean, but thats just my opinion.

Just some where to say hi and to know that your not feeling ignored, so do come along and let us know you are there, we are here to listen and like many have loads of fun here, this thread is not to go against anyone on this forum at all....

So come in put your feet up and have a say...

But i'm in too, have fun coz thats what its all about..

Im totally in ! FADINGINNOCENCE hi !!!

Thankyou lucid..! We shall unite together and form a help group for those who feel unregognised on this forum..? Some people may not possess a Certain etiquette to which others may possess. The intelligence level on this forum is not an issue but the fact that someone has witnessed something but is lacking in( his or her literacy skills)should'nt make the slightest difference, but yet it does..?
We are here to help you..? Thank you again..!

Hi fadinginnocence.

What things interest you on this forum and what is it that makes you need to feel a little left out sweety..
But remember to let others know what you like about the forum...

But surely if you have a group you become recognised by that group?

Sorry, but this whole thread seems like a joke or cry for attention.

I personally don't think you need a group - Imagine if evreyone started factions and groups. I could go away now and start a group for those who are noticed. Then for those who notice those that arent noticed.

It would be anarchy.

Walken doesn't think this is such a good idea

Thats why i said said not a group as such Walken hun. I refuse to fall out with you because of our views..

Just to say whats on your mind really, but some new ones here do feel a little ignored until they are recognized. I hope that makes better sense...

Missy Storm, I wasn't actually talking to you. To be honest, I'd only read the origonal post.

Sorry for the misunderstanding

And no, we must never fall out over our views - They are the most important of all.

They certainly are Walken , they certrainly are hun..

I still think this group would be a fun idea if you could pull it off..
But..
Making everyone feel welcome and appreciated is one thing, pushing forward members just because they're members or active posters is another..
Everyone on this forum is noticed to at least an extent. Some are given more notice than others, this is true; but I believe there's a reason for that..
And that is simply that this forum is at heart, a Meritocracy..
You gain recognition and the like because you've earned it. If you want to be "Noticed" you work harder to get it, naturally..
And if your efforts are quality then eventually you'll gain the notoriety you deserve. Trying to make yourself huge before your time has truly arrived will probably just end in disappointment..
Grammar is actually a part of this, believe it or not, and that's why it matters..
It shows you care about what you write and have some respect for those who will be reading your posts.
That said, It's not like your spelling is the ultimate factor involved in popularity..
I'm not really sure what is.
"A hit is a hit. For reasons we can't begin to qualify or quantify." To paraphrase a line from the Sopranos."

Exactly.

How be noticed.

*Type as though you were writing an essay - Carefully. Considor other members when you type; They don't want to have to read through capital letters and a dozen exclamation marks.

*Don't post to post- In the last few days we've seen people ride out a day with upwards of two hundred posts: Most of these are just one-liners. When you start posting just for the sake of it, people can tell, and they don't like it.

*Add something. Be constructive with your posts. Add thought to the conversation, rather than just a 'hmmm, this is weird' or 'I agree'.

*Get involved: Take it to the debates board or wish others a happy birthday.

I think more groups are needed, it would liven things up.

Burnside once famously said; "The last thing this forum needs is more groups."

Call me cynical, but this whole idea has come from Lucid not being congratulated for 1000 posts. In that respect, isn't it a little on the lame side?

After all, Burnside never had a 17,000 post thread - Is he 'unnoticed'?

It all seems like a cry for attention from those who arent payed as much attention as others, and you won't get that attention by posting for the sake of it. You get it by injecting something productive into the forum.

If you want to be noticed - That is the path to take.

I can see why burnside would say that. However I just feel that the more groups the better.

Personally, I've never seen the merit in the "Congrats Mr X has (fill in the number) Posts! WHEEEE".
Its not like you are actually doing anything spectacular, or world shattering, is it? And, when someone copies and pastes a 12 paragraph post, directy above their own, and simply adds a 'smiley', what is the merit in that? I don't know how anyone else fees about it, but it certainly irritates me to see the same essay C&P'd a dozen times.

Anyway, I agree with what Falco and Walken have said: If you take the time to create your response, using a little forethought, and dropping the netspeak and street slang, people will tend to overlook the occaisional tpyo, oops, typo.
But, if you post drek, then you will be recognized as well: as someone whose posts you should skip.

Walken you don't think it is a good udea because you are one of the popular ones, this is the start of the Thread Revolution.

You guys are too serious take a deep breath and chill... this is the start of the Thread revolution.

Why don't we start a conspiracy? Nobody will notice

This group sounds pretty fun.

ahhh, but I am an agent provocateur.

A spy, even.

ohhhhhh yeaaaaaaa, I'm in baby
*takes out her secret agent kit

Personally I dont give a flying hoot about how many posts I've sent. I just feel Some people are feeling left out, and that bothers me a little. I'm glad a few voiced their opinions on this matter, which just goes to show there is an underlying feeling amongst some..? As for starting a group, well I'm not really bothered, I'm really really lazy by nature and this would be much too hard for me to do.. . I will never the less try to reply and show freindship to the newbies in this big family of ours.
Well thats about it folks..!

~dunder~

Perhaps, but I worked to get there. I contributed to the forum in a positive way. I got involved in events and now serve as a debate judge, as well as put thought into my posts rather than just one liners.

Well, I really feel unnoticed..in real life and here. It doesnt bother me not to be noticed here on UM as much but it does in my real life( but thats a whole different topic lol), so yeah, having a group to start making connections with people would be good.

No offense, but this group sounds more like the "The group of left-out losers"..

But seriously,it is a nice way to make new people feel welcome.And boast your own post count hehehe.

No offence, but did you see on what day you joined this forum..? hee hee

Wow... this is unusual. I'm a rather solitary creature, and not the owner of a strong self image, but it never occured to me to feel "left out" on a forum. If I want to make a point, I make it, and if no one responds, I suppose that my point wasn't interesting to anyone and I move on to make another point elsewhere.

Maybe its because of my age (I'm an ancient 30), but I just don't understand the concept of this potential group. Will the group meet at the forum every Thursday at 6pm and cyber-hug eachother? Is it just an excuse to have a bigger signature saying "you like me.. you really like me?" What will this group DO?

I'm NOT trying to put anyone down for wanting a group to belong to! I just really don't understand the whole concept and reasoning.

Stop blowing your own trumpet each and every member is as equally important as you feel you are.

We all get to wear flowers in are hair and spread love and peace..!

No offence, but did you see on what day you joined this forum..? hee hee


I have been around here way longer.



Wow... this is unusual. I'm a rather solitary creature, and not the owner of a strong self image, but it never occured to me to feel "left out" on a forum. If I want to make a point, I make it, and if no one responds, I suppose that my point wasn't interesting to anyone and I move on to make another point elsewhere.

My point...


Maybe its because of my age (I'm an ancient 30), but I just don't understand the concept of this potential group.

No it s not your age.I don t understand it either,but it can t harm anyone ,can it?

Well, I like the flowers in my hair thing. In fact right now I have two dead leaves and about 5 wilting dandelions my kids stuck in my braid.

Spreading love and peace sounds good too. Are we talking about a full scale arial love and peace dusting airplane or one of those hand-held powder-sugar type love and peace shakers?

Just trying to clarify.

Oh yeah... do members get secret decoder ring?

I am up for the full blown love thing and of course we need music also?

In which case why do you need a group for the 'unnoticed'?

Poeple alwas ignore what i have to say its like being at home!!!!!!

Poeple alwas ignore what i have to say its like being at home!!!!!!


You should get yourself a boyfriend.....It s his job to listen to what you have to say.





I m not trying to offend you.

Invisible One!?!

Well I'll just have to change my user name to 'Invisible1' or 'Unnoticed'.

To take the focus off the popular section of UM.. You obviousy don't agree to it so don't post on it.

You know... how do you really become more popular and put into an elite group on a discussion forum? I look at everybody's posts equally and post my comments or infomation relating to the story or topic. Do we really need to split apart over the amount of posts one has?

It always amazes me that some people believe quantity should be praised over quality when it comes to posting.

I have had one thread dedicated to the amount of posts I made. It was nice and pleasant and it made me feel lovely but I don't care if I never recieve another. I'm not here for praise and aproval.

I have never seen any elite groups on U.M. even when the uppity's where at the peak of annoying they all embraced new members. I have even seen Scientists and Christians be nice to each other.
I'm sory if you feel left out but if you want to make friends you are allways welcome to use the chat room. That's what it is there for.

I can't believe how many of you guys are taking this so seriously???

ok here is what everyone who is interested in joining will do... below your signature putt..."Speaking Out Without a Doubt, No More Being Ignored"??? what do you guys think about that??

I agree with Kismit.

I honestly feel some members come on UM and post for posts sake. These members usually leave after a month or so, bored. They are easy to identify; Their posts are short and add nothing to conversation.

Take members such as dAz - He has a post count less than 250, but evrey one knows his name, who he is and what he does, because of the extent to which he contributes to this site.

When I came to UM what made me stay was the community and quality of discussion. In one of my first threads I discussed 9/11 conspiriacy theorys with the likes of Stellar, Richdog and Burnside.

None of them beleived such theorys, but it was a pleasure to debate with them, and they were all very friendly and helpful.

I did NOT judge them from their post count, a prettey much irrelevant number besides their name, but from what they said and the way in which they said it.

The best way to make friends on this forum and become respected is to throw yourself into the deep end - Challenge and debate with other members and enjoy evrey minute of it.

Inspiriation, that was. Walken needs a cake. Yummy.

Did I just ruin it by mentioning cakes?

Heck naw! Cake is good!


Now me, I've been lurking here for well over a year. Before I even joined I had a feel for the personalities and beliefs of pretty much everyone I've come in contact with since. I don't always have a lot to say and most of the time what I do say is stupid, but I love this place.

It about halfway keeps me sane


I think back before I joined and laughed cause I'd get mad at some of the stuff that was said and laugh at other stuff. I guess I'm just kinda shy.

You know the name is kinda ironic. You guys are invisible, yet we're seeing you form in a group.

Another thing, I think this is a great idea, and I hope it becomers another age of groups.

But I ain't joining, cause i need my individualistic appeal, but who cares.

ok ok.. but what do you want the name to be?

The Genetics.

The Unkowns.

Learners of the magic of limburger cheese(hey im Deutsch, i need to get in touch with my heritage. )

It could be that there are people out there who cannot assert themselves the way they would like and want somewhere that they would feel comfortable, like an "invisible group" in a forum they enjoy, what is wrong with that?? It does not always cry attention, sometimes people look for others that are similar or compatible; isn't that what you look for in a group??

lucid, since you are the founder why don't you name it something like 'the invisible elements'?
just trying to help.
good luck!

Now why does'nt that suprise me..? Is'nt there One moderator that you disagree with..?
I did'nt know William Hagues boots were for sale on ebay...?

what kind of freaks me out about this is the idea that some people are "more popular" than others, and that some folks may "not be able to assert themselves"

This is the friggin internet. You can post anywhere on the forums, and as long as you follow the guidelines, you can pretty much say what you want.

"people ignore my posts" Perhaps, dear reader, the fault lies not in others, but in your posts. Is what you are saying relevant? is it readable? or is it a two word post and a smiley? Does it make sense?

"I'm not confident/assertive enough" If you do not have the intestinal fortitude to type a response, on the internet, then I don't know what to say. You are behind a monitor screen, anonymous to all, and you can't assert yourself? You need more assistance than I can give you.

"I'm not popular" This ties in with the others. If you constantly post offensive, or inane things; if you strive to antagonize others, then what else do you expect? Cracking wiseguy comments in an inappropriate place, makes you seem boorish, crude, and immature. Flaming others at every opportunity, is also, not the way to 'win hearts and minds'.

I will be the first to admit that there are some people on this forum, whose posts I don't bother to read or respond to. But that is because of past experiences with those particular people. And, some posts are beyond my realm of expertise or interest, so I stay away.

All in all, last I heard, this was a place to exchange thoughts and ideas, not a popularity contest.

Have a nice day, enjoy the weekend, and remember, every now and then to get up from the monitor, and go out and experience life.