Offtopic: Actually I read somewhere that no one actually ever thought the Earth was flat, that it was just a large misconception.

Creeper, aside from saying "It can't be proved that they don't exist", what evidence do you have to say that vampires could exist?

if you want to start that again start a Different topic about OKAY?and a long time ago people tought the world was flat( and some people still do)

Well, like I said. Science was in its infancy. We have advanced a lot.

and will cotinue to advance

So you believed in mermaids too??? LMAO. I guess Santa is next.

Santa is just a x-mas figure, and I believe in mermaids cause I saw one, but the thats a topic for another topic, if you want to talk about, start a topic about it

I remember that now. HAHA. Unreal. Not surprising you need to believe in vampires.
There is just as much proof for Santa, as there is for vampires and mermaids. You must be a Santa hater.

Santa has no proof, vampires and mermaids have eyewitness that must be taking seriously,and no I do not hate santa

Ohh yeah.......
More proof Santa exists I'd say.......


Santa Sightings 1

NORAD tracking Santa

Santa's Site - Track Santa Christmas Eve

Search for Santa

10 Documented Sightings

Tracking Santa - Hourly updates.

Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, he is far more "real" than Vampires or Werewolves

Is there a big guy getting pulled over the entire earth in 12 hours by a buch of reindeer?? What do you think?

Is the MYTHOLOGICAL STORY of the Vampire true??
What do you think?

Hrmmzzz, so you hate Santa hey.........shame......

oh, Very funny, not. open your mind a little 101

He showed you the belief in santa. Why is that less real then your belief in vampires.

cause no one above 10 thinks Santa is real, and I know many teenagers who think vampires are real

Wooo. Teenagers believe in them so it must be true. When I was 15 I wanted to believe in them too. I grew up.

Heh heh! This is a comical, "debate." The only kind of vampire I would be inclined to believe in would be a being of nothing more than paranormal force. That by its nature defies scientific reason. Science is created by men, and men are fallible, therefore science cannot be completely infallible. But that is somewhat beside the point, if Vampires do exist, they obviously do not exist logically.
But generally, I think I'd side with Frogfish, scientifically Vampires cannot exist. Whether or not they exist outside of sciences reason is a possibility in my mind. However Vlad Tepes was not a Vampire, neither was his father.

Forgive me, but I was wondering if anyone here has heard of the so-called "Vampyre Disease"? Porphyria? And I was also wondering what EXACTLY those here believe a Vampyre to be....and as I asked previously.....not the apperance, but the physical characteristics. Many people have been watching to many movies and reading to many stories without getting the facts, usually behind every tall tale, no matter how minute, there is a modicum of fact....albeit small.....but it can be found.

Vampire's have no physical characteristics because they do not exist.

About porphyria, the word porphyria is used to describe many similar diseases or enzyme disorders in the body' heme pathways. Yet no, people do not need to drink blood to cure it, drinking blood does not help to treat the condition at all, that is a myth, the best way to treat porphyrial conditions is with vitamin supplements, a high-carbohydrate diet and sometimes phenothiazine drugs, if administered early in an attack. The condition does make people somewhat sensitive to daylight and their skin turns a slightly paler hue because this keeps them from being outside much, but drinking blood would not do anything to help the disease and may even prove harmful to someone who does so.

I too think there is something behind most stories, in this case, a bunch of frightened peasant's sheep went missing, they assumed it was w olf so Pa Peasant went off to hunt it down, he didn't come back either, this happens to a few other people around the area and voila, you have a vampire attack in eastern Europe,. when in reality, anyhting could have happened, wolves, they could have fallen over a cliff or broken some bones or something completely mundane and not at all an inpiration for goth kids to be stupid.

Let's keep in mind that the "real vampires", the ones not created by Hollywood, but by local legends and cultural tradition, were terrible monsters and not even slightly akin to human beings, they were vile things to be killed on sight before they could attack you. Hollywood has romanticized it beyond recognition.

I think the myth of the undead came about in medieval times because grave robbers noticed that the dead's hair and nails had continued to grow and the legend sort of sprang out of that. Also I remember tales of a groaning noise (escaping gases IRL) coming from the corpses and that perpetuated the myths as well. Anyway, I believe that's probably where it all began.

I agree....but this could also be where the origin of the misconception may have begun.



You do realize that there are many, many people all over the world that do actually drink blood beacuse they enjoy doing so....I know a few myself....not my cup-o-tea(or blood whichever the case may be)....but many of them fear the stigma that may be associated with this "craving"(for lack of a better word) that they feel. Do a little research before before you label them, I beg you, I agree that the whole "wannabe" cult culture is pathetic...don't ridicule them...pitty them...they need more help than you may know.

I agree that the "Hollywood Vampyre" does not, nor ever did exist, but we call bats that drink blood Vampire Bats...so what exactly do we call people who drink blood...and please save me the crackpot/idiot with low self-esteem remarks(even though in some cases it may be relevant)...I'm looking for a technical reference....and I don't believe in Mermaids, lol.

I do acknowledge their existence, yet I also feel most of them do it because they want attention and don't know how to get it apart from actively attempting to be as non-conformist as possible, and I do not believe they have an active "craving" for blood, they merely enjoy it, muhc in the same vein as myself enjoying a good root beer float every now and again. I have done enough research, and for most of them, it is an active choice and attempt to be as set apart as they can be, and I beleive most of them to be a pat of that "wannabe cult culture". There may be some people with specific mental disorders to prove me wrong, and I pity them, but there are not nearly enough of them to refute my arguement to begin with. Vampirism is a complete fallacy, those who claim to have it are fools, as it does not exist, and those who believe them are gullible.

Fair enough.......may I ask what research you have done? I would like to see if your conclusions are similar to mine on the subject.

I heard it on some movie although at the moment I can't remember which one it was

Uhh... I don't think so. The only thing I can actually start to think is true about vampires and something in the bible relating to each other was the thing with Judas when he betrayed Jesus and felt bad about it so he hanged himself but instead of letting Judas die and live in eternal life in heaven, he was banished to an eternal life on earth(which would probably be like hell to someone). I know thats what it says in horror movies sometimes but it makes sense to me.

That is also the premise of a few roleplaying games I think.

Wasn't that the premise of Dracula 2000? I think it's a very novel idea for a vampire story. But just that. Great idea for vampire origin story.

I believe that it's "Vampire: The Masquerade" that claims that Cain(the Biblical brother of Abel) was the first Vampyre and all others are "inferior" to him.....not sure about that.....just another RPG.

Ah, I see. The only RPG I ever played was the Dr. Who RPG like 18 years ago.....

You would be utterly amazed by the amount of people who actually live and pattern their lives after that(and some other) RPG.....it's pretty pathetic. Some other people that I have had a chance to speak with...and get to know a bit....are good people...they just live an alternate lifestyle and are nothing like the "RPG'ers" or "posers".....they are also exceedingly intelligent.

This is true, I have that game.

After the Dr. Who RPG? Cool. Or after the Vampire one? Still cool. Yeah I think intelligence kinda makes you off kilter a bit if you know what I mean. Well of course you do, we are cut from the same cloth, I believe.



Cool, we've confirmed it. And you're a pretty smart guy, so you fit the example too.

I'm off kilter? aww....

of course they exist, tehy are very real, and live among us, unly as BATS....lol

Here this may be helpful!
Vampires in myth and history!

Vampire Link

That provides a wonderful resource for mythical research, thank you. I however feel it is a bit biased to be frequently associating gypsies with vampires, I have gypsy ancestors and it is a proud heritage.

Stand proud!



Yeah I used to see gypsy caravans all the time in England and they were most definitely not vampires....

Show me a "kilter"...and I'll show you something that I was probably NEVER on.

I don't see what Gypsies would have to do with Vampyres except to suggest that storytelling would assist in propagating the myth...which is exactly what the "hollywood vampire" is...a myth....but if your going to indite Gypsies for propagating that myth, then you better start ripping your parents for propagating Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, and honest politicians(couldn't resist that one).

The Vampyres(described as such strictly beacuse of their blood consumption) that I have spoken with and gotten to know are NOTHING like the hollywood, glamourized, sunlight-hating, garlic-despising, steak-through-the-heart fallacy that exists mainly beacuse of RPG's and a longing for attention. Many of the individuals that I have spoken with are very intelligent and level-headed....just live differently.

That just means they have some mental problems. It is not normal to drink blood. If they got super powers from doing it, then hey , why not, but there body does not need it. They just want to do it for whatever reason.

I simply came to the conclusion that they enjoyed it, much in the same vein as people who indulge in extensive body modification/piercings. It is medically true that the human body cannot consume blood in large quantities, the human body will reject it....about a cup or so....no more.