I am just curious to what you all think...

I voted "yes" (100 years).

No. I think we have few tens of billions of years to go before the universe ends......

Which end times are we speaking of? There are many different end times believed in by a myriad of religions past and present. I would have to say no for the Mayan, Incan, Aztec, Norse and Christian end times, they are just mthological! - Mako

Folks have been crying "end of days!!!" for the last few millenia. Eventually, they will be right- in a few million years, and it will either be due to man's arrogance and stupidity, or a natural cataclyism. Not because a celestial being has a hissy fit.

In recent years they have been standing on street corners placards saying "The end is near".



NO

sometimes you have to wonder about the end-times preachers.... perhaps it is just that they WANT the world to end so that they have an end?

Yes 100 years

100 years?

thats a good choice... close enough to threaten people with but far enough away to not interefere in your own life.

I find it strange that the person giving the religion it's name said that the end of time was coming while some of the generation of the Disciples was still living. The early Chirstians believed that the end was coming in no more than 40 years. It didn't and the religion has been waffling and tap dancing ever since! - Mako

shhhh.... don't say that around here. there are some believers that claim it can't be true because that would not have left enough time to spread the word to the world! (timeline of events issues aside that is.... who are the first christians to contradict what was to be later written as fact in the bible? )

Does self-destructive sound right?

Why pick on me hyper, amal said the same thing. I don't think it will be the next 50 because people are just getting to know Christ. Although it could be tommarow. I am just waiting I guess.

sorry 101... i didn't mean to single you out.

but have people not had 2000 years already to get to know christ?

Yes but here is just a question for you to ponder. If God is actually such a tyrant and wanted everyone to hitch a ride on the highway to Hell wouldn't he come today?

Oh, sorry lol
I meant the end of the world, in general, but I guess I always refer to the one the Christian Bible speaks about, in Revelations.

I see, then it is among the ones that I mentioned as being nothing but mythology - Mako

because once they are gone he can't pick on them anymore!

besides, if he is as powerless as i take him to be then it is all for show, so of course he won't show up becauase he can't back up his claims!

Ahh, but this was explained to me by a believer: Apparantly, the language of the bible doesn't mean what it says. And the words in the language have 'extra' definitions. For example, I was informed that the passage you are referring to, where it states "this generation shall not pass before this is done" ACTUALLY means the entire Jewish race, and not the generation of beings alive at the time!

Also, where it states in Genesis that "God made the heavens and the earth, etc etc. I make the darkness I make the Light, I create good and evil" ACTUALLY means that god created everything EXCEPT evil, because here, evil means something else entirely.

So remember folks, when reading your bible, make sure you have an interpreter with you at all times.

Oh hyper, this is funny. Well God has a time line for everything already planned out. I mean this is probably what mine consists of

18 yrs has baby girl

20 gets married

22 gets divorced

25 gets um real lonely

55 old cat lady.

No but it isn't just all for show. I mean if he were just showing off he would still be killing people because they don't tithe.

101, not if you consider his only power over people is ignorance!

it is just like voodoo... it can only hurt you if you don't know better!

this is all explained in the genesis story! it took a wise and brave snake to set man free from the tyrany of ignorance.....

To learn of him is to know him. Therefore I am not ignorant. But just because Satan tempted Eve who then tempted Adam this shows that they just were weak. We would have never known ignorance as you say if they didn't partake of the forbidden fruit.

VooDoo- I am not quite sure why this is compared to christianity.

Yah, I agree...there are a lot of "interesting" people out there who have been predicting the end of time...from that crazy man on the corner hollering "repent now! The end times are at hand!" to just recently, renowned psychic Sylvia Browne (and know in no way am I endorsing her- I so am not! lol)
But, she is well known and liked, and now even she has said publically we are living in the end days.
I guess I always shyed away from the thought, and also when I heard people say thid, I felt and assumed they were crazy lol
But from what I have been studying in the Bible, there is a lot of prophecy in there. A lot of what has happened already...there is even a reference to 9/11 in there! I cant think of the scripture off hand, but will find it.
Anyways, a lot of bizarre statistics. I mean, look at how advance we have gotten int he last 10 years alone! Imagine where we will be in another 10! I refuse to see flying cars and road in the sky! lol
But anyways, just was curious what everyone else thought.
Thanks!

Zeus cannot be proven, but many places and people from the Bible can....so it isnt mythology. Maybe some people see it that way, but not many, and not me.A myth is fiction, and made up, but the Bible and people are not.
But we dont want to get into a debate, here...I just wanted to know others' opinions. Thanks.

many things in ancient mythologies are based around real events.

now as for the torah/bible/qur'an: it is the evolution of religion! as people learned more and understood more, the closer the real life events that inspired the tales stayed to the tales!

it is just the new voodoo.... yahoo!

If you do find such a reference, I would love to see it posted. Because, I think you are mistaken. Unless, you are refering to the so-called "bible code", of which I have even less faith in than the bible itself.

@ Hyper
VooDoo is
noun: a charm superstitiously believed to embody magical powers
noun: a religious cult practiced chiefly in Caribbean countries (especially Haiti)
verb: bewitch by or as if by a voodoo

Please come up with a better comparison. Thank You 101

I just don't like that one at all. You are much smarter then that.

I am just messing with you

religion is all about superstition, fear, and ignorance.....

now the christianity-voodoo comparison:

VooDoo is
noun: a charm superstitiously believed to embody magical powers
noun: a religious cult practiced chiefly in Caribbean countries (especially Haiti)
verb: bewitch by or as if by a voodoo

christianity:
contains charms superstitiously believed to embody magical/mythical/godly powers
is a religious cult
accounts for posessession as if by demons/ghosts/ and now even aliens......

Cults? I don't belong to a cult. But Maybe you are talking about crosses and symbols used in Catholithism. Is this what you are saying about charms. Yes and demon possession. But no aliens. And often people don't get possessed by a ghost. Or do they. I will have to see.

Thanks for explaining that. I once was sooo baffled by the Bible, and who God was, etc...Onec I got in a church that I felt spoke truth, I got into Bible studies, and things are explained to me, how certain words back then arent what we use them as now, as well as there are many different versions of the Bible, interpeted so people can understand better, and some with * so you can refer to what these words truly mean to us.
And also, people take verses out of context, and w/o reading the entire story it is in...so we need to know who is talking, what happened before and after, etc... The Bible is complicated but once you get going on it, it ends up being rather simple to understand...it is just deep and there is so much to it! 6 mos ago I put down any new age book, and my tarot cards, and began studying this- it is much more intense and real to me than any spirituality book. Of course I never close my mind to something, but this Book has me going! lol

People have had 2000 years to know Him, yes...and some have. The Bible says the gates to Heaven are narrow and few will enter. That makes sense.
od doesnt pick on anyone- He created all that was good, and the devil creates bad...we buy into it because of our sinful nature.
When one sees a wallet on the ground with $500 in it, do you not want to take it? Who wouldn't? How many of us would turn it in to the police? It could be somebody's rent $, but we instantly think "how can I use it?"
Are you a bad person in general? No. So why that thought? We know it is wrong. Is "someone" whispering in our ear? lol
Many know Christ. Satan knew God. But that did not keep him good.
Adam knew God. He knew the rule not to eat from the tree. But he did- even after all God gave him. So, none of us are perfect.
There is a lot in the Bible that can be proven, and I have seen the dramatic positive change in my life, and miracles that happen to people at church...so, I dont doubt it! I'm not willing to take that risk of NOT believing.
A life of maybe 100 years here
or eternal bliss?
Hmm...thats a hard one lol

And I said 50 years.
A lot of what the Bible says is coming true, like the 1 world currency...that is already being discussed now!
But, when someone doesnt know the Bible, they cant see what is at hand.
The end times WILL interfere with our lives...even if we are dead.
The Bible says that when we die, we go to a place of rest until the end times. Then we too, will be judged, just like those living. So, it will affect everyone, dead or alive.

God just wanted us to follow His rules (the 10 Commandments). And all He speaks about in the Bible. Man made laws and rules on how to reach God, etc...
There are stories in the Bible that talk about people like that, and what God said and did...

the risk of not believing -> that about sums it up right there! (superstition)

miracle: "An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God." in other words behold the power of the primative mind!

trust in the power of yourself! too many don't, so to compensate for their own weaknesses and insecurities turn to external sources - religion is but one.

relgion has served its purpose in every human society. it is there for a reason. but just as each society has had its religions that die with it, so will christianity. there is nothing new or special to christianity. it just does its job, like all the others.

all our supposed "right/wrong" knowledge comes from our genetics. we are encoded with that info because it serves our survival. all natural, not godly.

dualist thought is a great failure of man. if the god is the creator of all, then he did create evil... and not to get into this topic again, but good and evil are not real. they are just nice labels used to creat an aritificial dualistic order to the world. when it comes right down to it, there is no good or evil at all... there are no such forces except in the creative space of man's mind.

People, as a whole, are self destructive, I think.
Man is full of anger, hatred, desire to kill and harm and hurt...Yes, we have good things, too, but, to everything there is an opposite...and how often do you watch the news? How sad. There are more stories of death and violence, destruction and fear than ever! Coincidence?
God didn't pull the trigger- man did.
God didn't invent the bomb- man did.
I'm a mom of 4 and when I look back at the events I put in my kids' baby books, things that were going on around the world, there was rape by a famous boxer, war, child molestation by a pop singer, infidelity by a president...I mean, come on! lol

Hmm well good one but here is something to think about Eve was tempted by satan then told Adam to eat of the fruit. So who is the sinner? Why was it easier to tempt the woman?

My opionion is that he tempted Eve because women have that charm over men. Bat those eyelashes and Okay sweetie

Adam Eve

This was the 1st true love. I am sorry it resulted in problems at the very beginning. lol

there is nothing quite like the ultimate judgement to hold the ultimate power....

the bible is a vague picture... sort of like abstract art. 1000 people look and 1000 different interpretations and opinions are formed.

i stand by the power of nature and the power of the mind! the only true prophecy is the self-fulfilling prophecy!

I understand that mythology was based on real events, but the Bible speaks of real people, real events, not based on them....Even the best skeptical and non-believing scholars will say Jesus walked this earth...who He was is always the debate...The Bible talks about places and it gives maps so that we can see where they are talking about....
I do agree that religion is evolving- so many out there now! People are searching for answers, and are more confused now than ever! lol

the more violence can also be attributed to more media coverage and more people on the planet.

people are complex animals.... they take 20 years + to raise and release into the wild.... lots can go wrong in that time, and does.... sadly, the destructive habits of parents are passed on to children in a very pervasive way.

i disagree though... i do not think man is by nature any more destructive than any other animal.... it is what we have done to ourselves that has caused this...

we are not at the end-times, but we are at a change-times. there is a lot that needs to happen in the next few years... this includes dramatic paradigm shifts in our world's cultures. it has happened before. sometimes with great success and sometimes with great setbacks... time will tell which way we go this time...

gods: one is one too many and a thousand is not enough!

So the Bible is like abstract art.

Well can't we say the same about the earth and the mind.

Not all trees are the same nor the flowers. And the mind is so complex all of us think differently. Some use the right side of our brain more the others the left side.
It is all in how you picture things

But to find your self to fulfill your dreams this is wonderful.

I voted No

For a good while now there have been predictions about when the end of the world is. Obviously, all those predictions were wrong. In the bible, God says that we can not predict the end of times. So I guess as long as we keep trying to predict the end of the world, God will never have a chance to end it.

But thats just a religious standpoint.

If we're talking scientifically (logically) then the world has long time to go until it ends, that is, if we can avoid destroying ourselves and being pelted with meteoites.

I was talking about a religion that is based of a "End of the world" prediction.

The pieces never even came close to fitting back then. The only thing that would have thrown me off was Hitler. He could have almost fit the description of the antichrist. However, his actions did not completely align with prophecy. A prophecy is not fulfilled unless it is completely fulfilled. Hitler lacked some things that prophecy spoke of.

Yes, but that is just your opinion.

that, of course, is in hindsight.....

edit: in reference to hitler and the prophecy, for clarification.

This stuff is complete crap. I used to believe all these dates of the "end of the word" when I was a child. now its just stupid and old.

Like many others said, If you keep saying it... eventually its going to come true.

That's exactly what it means. And that's exaclty the way I said it. Jesus is clearly talking about the Jew's.

Yes.

This is NOT in Genesis. And remember, "evil" in Hebrew has over 15 different meanings. It means "destruction" or "calamity" here.

Here is a link that will spell it out for you.

Link

Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:

râ‛âh (Strong's H7451)

bad, evil (adjective)
bad, disagreeable, malignant
bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)
evil, displeasing
bad (of its kind - land, water, etc)
bad (of value)
worse than, worst (comparison)
sad, unhappy
evil (hurtful)
bad, unkind (vicious in disposition)
bad, evil, wicked (ethically)
in general, of persons, of thoughts
deeds, actions
evil, distress, misery, injury, calamity (noun masculine)
evil, distress, adversity
evil, injury, wrong
evil (ethical)
evil, misery, distress, injury (noun feminine)
evil, misery, distress
evil, injury, wrong
evil (ethical)
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H7489
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2191a, 2191c

Yes, it does. It doesn't mean "evil" in the same sense as the evil Lucifer causes.

Scripture is not as vague as as you think. Matter of fact, most of it is pretty strait forward.

Hitler did not match what prophecy speaks of. Then and now.

And, at the time, many people were convinced Napoleon was the anti-christ, and that the end of days was upon the world.

And, Genghis Khan as well.

And Hitler.

And Caligula.

And Vlad Tepesh.

And Rasputin.


What has always confused me, is WHY people are so anxious for the end of the world to arrive. Is it because they feel that their life is so bad, that a total apocolype is the only thing that will make them feel better? Or, are they so sure of their 'saintliness' that they are assured a seat on the paradise bus? Which, from what I've been told, does not necessarily guarantee you'll go, apparantly, god has a 'double-secret' check list: Some believers get to go, and others are arbitrarily denied.