mr Ed where do you live? i also live in the south east, in kent. a real s***hole called ramsate, i think we know alot about chavs as practicaly everyone is down here, independent thinkers like us are the minorty not chavs for chrissake.

Yup you are right. Well I live in the borough of Bexley, about 40 mins train ride from London. It is really nice in some areas but that still doesn't stop chavs. In sidcup there are tons of them.



Yes, but adults demand more respect. They are usually less naive, ignorant and have been what children have been through.

i agree adults deserve respect naturally, the fact that chavs arent scared of them nor the police anymore worries me. they are consolidating theyre power, and who said 'it was just a phase...' jesus how wrong where they...

Yeah, it is getting out of hand. I am glad I have finally found someone who agrees with me

Treat others how you would expect them to treat you... Adults don't get respect because they are adults, I know many adults that are just scroats a burden on society so their children are going to be similar if not worse... I don't expect respect because I am an adult, I would like to think I had earned it but I would not tolerate arrogance from anyone.

I disagree, I actually think a decrease in chavs is beginning, or at least near where i live, I rarely see them nowdays although it is inconsistent, last week i didn't see any for like 6 days then one day i saw about 5 groups in 10 mins, but overall i think it's dying out in everywhere but the real chav centres (strood,chatham etc.)

I disagree again Ben, look at the year 7's in our school. They are the worst year, all the teachers are saying that. They actually ambush year eights and beat them up...

but they are not chavs really. They don't go round saying 'wat up blud' and 'innit bruv' and there was a noticable lack of caps on non-uniform day. They are yobs, a totally different issue and culture to chavs

I bet you they do, you are just saying all this because you are a chav type 1

finally someone who thinks the same way i do

and dude where do you live?? i the south east there seriouly growing in numbers, they practically own the town.

sometimes i have to stay by my window with my air rifle just to keep them off.

you think im kidding

'I disagree, I actually think a decrease in chavs is beginning, or at least near where i live, I rarely see them nowdays although it is inconsistent, last week i didn't see any for like 6 days then one day i saw about 5 groups in 10 mins, but overall i think it's dying out in everywhere but the real chav centres (strood,chatham etc.)'

thats only probably coz theyve all got anti social behaviour warnings lol

Well fair enough, you could well be seeing a decline, that is good news anyway.

I only tried to shoot them once with a BB gun from my top window. I missed by miles anyway.
Where there is a macdonalds...

lol when i used to live in a flat some came round and buzzed for my sister, she went down to see them and i shot outta the 3rd floor window at one with a BB tgun, hit the bastard right on the neck

I don't think I have ever heard that story before. You should have shared it sooner. Some of them deserve it, a harmless little BB does no harm.

lol yeah but air rifles do more harm, i gotta scope sweet you can shoot them in the legs and stuff.... not that ive tried... or anything...

Ok, now that I have spent twenty minutes catching up on this thread, and know what a "chav" is, I would like to address a few issues. I will not be quoting anyone in particular as I think generic points will do just fine.

It has been said that chavs have no respect for adults because everyone is equal. I have two problem with this line of thinking. The first being the fast that they consider themselves grown whether they be 14 or 20 and want to be treated like adults. It is obvious that the chav threat adults, true adults, like crap. How can one be respected as an adult when one does not respect others, equals? This is a contradiction of everything they supposably stand for. The second issue that bothers me is that one is not an adult at 14 years; that is not an opinion that is a fact. This is where adulthood can be a bit tricky. At some point between 17 (at the earliest) and 22 (hopefully ) a person begins to find their place in productive society becoming an adult. You're grown, you work and hopefully can support yourself and perhaps a family. Until you can do at least some of this you are not an adult; not a productive one anyway.

It has been said that a good number, minority/majority/whatever it does not matter, not only disrespect adults but comity crimes like theft, battery and worse. This kind of behavior can not and should not be tolerated. If the police won't protect you from these types of punks then, as someone already said; punch the little bugger in the nose if he/she tries to steal your phone. A couple courses in the school of hard knocks never hurt when it comes to someone getting away with crime. I have no respect, ha ha there is that word again, for people who break the law and comity crimes against another human. You take my wallet, I'm going to punch you,period.

While reading this thread to catch up a bit, I thought to myself "if one more person pops on here belly-aching about how you should not discriminate against people for the clothes they wear, then I'm gonna scream" Guess what? *ahhhhhhhhhhh! * It's not the clothes it's the actions. Let us leave that there, ok?

Some have said that just because you are adult does not mean that you automatically deserve respect. Well, there are two sides to that as well. No, one does not deem respect for simply 'being'. It does need to be earned. On the other hand, you really don't get too much time to get to know a person you pass on the tube,in the mall, on the street and so on. Following that theory, people we know nothing about deserve no respect from us. Sorry, I can't buy into that. We can't go around disrespecting people because we don't know them, that's ludicrous.

There! I've said my peace; did I miss anything important?

We have those people in the U.S.
We call them hippies.

Some have said that just because you are adult does not mean that you automatically deserve respect. Well, there are two sides to that as well. No, one does not deem respect for simply 'being'. It does need to be earned. On the other hand, you really don't get too much time to get to know a person you pass on the tube,in the mall, on the street and so on. Following that theory, people we know nothing about deserve no respect from us. Sorry, I can't buy into that. We can't go around disrespecting people because we don't know them, that's ludicrous.

You still don t have to respect them.All you need to do is to use your brain.Judging anyone by appearance is downright stupid.I don t automatically respect adults, but I m not that dumb to automatically assume they are stupid,lazy etc.People have to be careful to some degree.That s the problem with Chavs:They are dumb.Simple as that.

BTW: Nice quoting style,girty.I think I recognize it to some degree.....

Exactly, you hit the nail on the head. They think they are adults but do not respect adults. That is a large part of the problem.



Yup, a lot of them steal. I really hate stealing, the principle of it.



Yes! Thankyou. It is not just about the sodding clothes as you have said.
Considering you don't live here, you are doing very well at getting a good judgement of chavs.



Well you forgot to use the word scum...
I agree with you, but feel more strongly (slightly) about the adult thing.

From Snake:


Well I do not believe that is right. Adults should all be given a base level of respect, they are older and more experienced in life. We are just obviously opposed in views.

Exactly, you hit the nail on the head. They think they are adults but do not respect adults. That is a large part of the problem.

We have a similar problem in the states but we don't call them chavs; we have another name.....that I don't use ( at least not here )

Yup, a lot of them steal. I really hate stealing, the principle of it.

Thieves make me sick; just read my blog!


Yes! Thankyou. It is not just about the sodding clothes as you have said.
Considering you don't live here, you are doing very well at getting a good judgement of chavs.

Some people actually thought this was a valid attack on the premiss of the thread; thank you for the complement.


Well you forgot to use the word scum...grin2.gif
I agree with you, but feel more strongly (slightly) about the adult thing.

The memory lapse for the word "scum" was intentional.


Well I do not believe that is right. Adults should all be given a base level of respect, they are older and more experienced in life. We are just obviously opposed in views

To an extent I agree; we should assume that people are respectable until proven otherwise.

You do know chavs walk around in groups of at least 3 or 4 if not 10, punch one in the face and they'll absolutely pulverize you, then take everything you have, my philosophy is just RUN!!!
As for not discrimintaing about clothes, you may not judge chavs by their appearnace but thanks to the media most people now do, i was asked to remove a baseball cap by a security guard when i went into a shop even though the shop was so small he could see me everywhere i went (and was undobtedly watching me) and i was with my friend who wasn't remotely dressed like a chav

You do know chavs walk around in groups of at least 3 or 4 if not 10, punch one in the face and they'll absolutely pulverize you, then take everything you have, my philosophy is just RUN!!!


3 or 4 isn t that much of a problem.They normally won t bother you in such small groups.Groups of 10+ is a completely other issue.Unless you are Bruce Lee No.2 you won t get far with fighting.But if you have some knowledge of psychology you could stand a chance.Even large groups usually leave you alone, if you look at them the right way(Meaning stare at them as if you are going to kill them),and if you have more or less frighening stature.

Where do you live? because around here groups of 3 or 4 are constantly harassing people asking for fags or to 'use your phone' and dishing out punishment for non-compliance. I agree with you about psychology as you can often talk them down or just add a few 'mates' and 'bruvs' into your sentences so they can understand whatyour saying, but as for giving them an evil stare, in my experience that just provokes them to come out with the immortal line 'what you staring at' and then ring all their entourage over into your face whereas they may originally have had no intention of bothering you

I agree nick, the last thing you want to do is make eye contact.
I have been advised that by many police officers. They also say to look confident, walk with a purpose and keep your head up.

and most importantly never get your phone out of your pocket, or smoke in front of them
Also just though how bad an idea fighting 3 or 4 is as one of them is bound to be paking a knife or knuckledusters

Where do you live? because around here groups of 3 or 4 are constantly harassing people asking for fags or to 'use your phone' and dishing out punishment for non-compliance.


Yes, it is not as bad here as it is in US or UK.But generally speaking groups of 3-4 are not as daring as say a gang of about 15 people.



but as for giving them an evil stare, in my experience that just provokes them to come out with the immortal line 'what you staring at' and then ring all their entourage over into your face whereas they may originally have had no intention of bothering you

You don t have to stare at them like you re on a sightseeing tour.Simply go your way and if they start talking to you,give them one of the meanest glares you have...
But consider your current state.If you weigh about 150 kg it propably won t have the same effect.

I agree nick, the last thing you want to do is make eye contact.
I have been advised that by many police officers. They also say to look confident, walk with a purpose and keep your head up


Actually that s exactly what they want you to do.I myself keep provoking them....and I never had a fight in my life.(strange huh?)
But I see why a woman should do as advised by police officers.

What we need is for police to actually get off their arses and sort them out, they'll pull over a group of chavs who are blatantly up to no good and let them off with a slapped wrist, i'd bring them in put them in a cell for an hour or so and phototgraph and print them maybe that would scare some sense into the 'hardnuts'

The reason why they think they are untouchable,is because they actually are.As long as the law stays that way,police won t do a thing.

That would work. I was tlaking to one of my friends and she told me a website that makes fun of chavs and has chav celebrities.A Chav Site

lol i love that site, the chav of the month competition is great, people post photos of chavs and all the members just lay into them with a great vindctiveness, very uplifting after one of thems just shouted something at you over the road

i disagree with the police thing. my brother is a policeman but the fact of the matter is teenagers have to many rights, and by god do the chavs knowe them.

they know they cannot get touched without a memeber of the family or adult nearby the police officer, they know they do not need empty their pockets or let them into the house.

this is why chavs are so untouchable theyre used to it, and know theyre rights from years of experience as it where.
its not a fact of letting them get a way with it or a 'slap one the wrist' most coppers would love to kick the sh*t outta them, but they cannot do alot.

so im afraid your wrong, the police do all they can. i have great respect for coppers they have a hard job. especially with chavs around, and yeah its true alot of chavs are ok, u need to get to know them but most arent and do provide a bad name for the rest.

It's the attitude of 'you touch me and I'll sue you', isn't it. Always seems like, anyone is able to get away with any vandalism/random violence they want, but the law have to play everything by the book, they can't actually stop them doing it because, the moment they actually touch someone, then they'll sue the police. It is a bit , is it not?

This is why we need to go back to the days when, if an adult slapped a teenager upside their head, it would simply be assumed that the adult was in the right, and the teenager was asking for it. Rather like this happy slapper thing...if that had been done only a few decades ago, then the first time would be the last time...the first time some idiot got the idea, he would have had the living hell beaten out of him.

I know it's sad that I actually believe the only way to move forward is to move backwards, isn't it? But we've gone so soft on scum like this that it's ridiculous...in today's world, the only person the law seems interested in punnishing are law abiding, employed people. All you have to do to get immunity from the law is to start breaking it, and go on wellfare.

i agree with you both, i think the government needs to give the police more powers if they really wants this epidemic dealt with. waht happened to the days when people used to fear the police? chavs don't even bother running away anymore they just stand there and get in the coppers face knowing theirs nothing he can do about it. Also i hear they were going to make persistant offenders wear orange jump suits and do community service in them, what do you think of this idea? i'd rather we put them in the stocks and everyone throw bricks at them, but i can't see that happening

your all perfectly right, and the orange jumpsuit would be well funny!! but theyd probably find a way around it like tucking theyre orange jumpsuits into theyre socks or somerthing

again it also isnt the governments fault, tho its hard to change human right because they are now run from the european union and european courts of human rights and im afraid that outdates our national soverignty, basically they overule us, but its better that way, because chavism is a growing didease, france, belgium and now germany have it theyll think of something soon. i mean we have the ASBO right?

The human righst crowd aren't happy about the jumpsuits idea because they say it violates their human rights to have them picked out as criminals - well, the little buggers asked for it by mugging some old gran!!

lol absolutely!

man funnest thing ever happened. i wasw walking hoime rom the town when i got started on by these chavs. unlucky for them they didnt seem to notice the black bag which i was carrying. i slowly and calmly opneed the bag and retreaved my smaurai sword that i had just purchased. one of them just looked dumbly as the blood drained from his face the others ran.

then i calmy suggested that he leave and never speak to mwe again and walked off. when i turned ack jhe was gone too. LOL

I love it, lmao

We have the answer - anyone who isn't a chav should be allowed to carry a very large sword. No police required, no ASBOS, because ultimately to be a chav you either have to be completely deranged or a wimpy little sh*t! Why else would you wear a hood to disguise yourself when you beat up old ladies?

Sword, or paintball gun. Arrestable offence and mental trauma (well maybe not trauma), versus fun, pain and a slap on the wrist.

I wonder what the chav's would prefer.

The chavs don't get a say They get the gun/ sword and if they don't like it they can quit being chavs!

I saw that, quite entertaining. did you visit the websites?
http://www.chavscum.co.uk
http://www.chavspotting.co.uk

A few weeks ago, some of my friends were at a park we always go to. One of my friends was walking a bit behind the others (I think), and got punched in the face by a group of chavs.

This is more evidence to show their cowardice. They only normally attack when they are only a couple of people, or less. They are too scared otherwise.

Reminds me of the serengeti. Lions attaking the straggling deer

, I don't like your analogy though.

I prefer Hyenas attacking a tired wilderbeast...

Aghhh I HATE chavs... they are a plague on our society... they are bringing our one fair country down in a very big way. No respect... no jobs... most commit crime of some sort... bullies who prey on people in gangs... the list is endless.

Not often I say I hate something but chavs are definately one of them.

Exactly.
They are scum.
Chavscum.

Well I have come up with my own advanced classification system.
Chav type 1 and Chav type 2.
Chav types 2s are the real...

Everyone has to respect them, but they don't have to respect anyone else...
What is worrying is that the problem seems to be getting larger, in my opinion anyway.

When the new year 7s came to our school last year, they were the most violent year yet, a lot of them chavs...

I wonder when the chav culture, culture- aha the irony, will die out.
Maybe it needs some help...

I don't think it's going to die any time soon for a very good (or bad) reason.

Being a chav isn't a fad... it's an entire new social system, an occupation if you will. Being a chav means you are part of a group... to them it has worth... you get a group of like-minded people as protection/company and you have modded cars... loose women... chav isn't just a word... it has a LOT of associated activities.

In know, that is a big part of the problem.

It has become a culture, although I hate to use the word...



And sometimes, very skanky ones at that...

They embody mob mentality.
I think to end this chav uprising, the government needs to do something. What, I don't know, but this can't continue.
It is destroying the nice British stereotype.

I don't think it is all about class either, yes most chavs are 'working class', if you want to call it that. But working class doesn't mean what it did a decade ago. You can still have a decent income, a four bedroomed house and tv's in every room and be called working class...
I know many middle class chavs, some who I have heard to mug people.

I suppose there have always been groups/mini cultures, but I wonder if they were as bad as the current one.