This website seems adequate to the task.
Please quote any major historian to justify the accusations that the Romans
did not use a patibulum with the stipes, on Christ.
Please. No venom.
Thank you.
Fordham U.
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Wrong place for this, I think. It might get moved to the Spirituality Vs. Skepticism board.
BTW, this quote is from 'The Annals" by Tacitus, 109 A.C.E.
I just went to MIT website to get this quote. It is in regards to Nero burning Rome.
I presume you know he burnt Christians alive, at parties? I heard a historian
say so, and I presume he knew his sources.
Why would Tacitus say Jesus was crucified? What does that possibly imply?
"But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired."
Thank You Aquatus. The reason I put this here was because others were getting heated debates regarding Leonardo's Last Supper, on this forum.
Corrections are accepted.
I just went to MIT website to get this quote. It is in regards to Nero burning Rome.
I presume you know he burnt Christians alive, at parties? I heard a historian
say so, and I presume he knew his sources.
Why would Tacitus say Jesus was crucified? What does that possibly imply?
"But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired."
Thank You Aquatus. The reason I put this here was because others were getting heated debates regarding Leonardo's Last Supper, on this forum.
Corrections are accepted.
I have moved this thread becuase it does seem to be more of a debateable subject. However, if you feel at any time that people are becoming overly aggressive please let myself or one of the other moderators know and we will do our best to help retain civility. 
Soooo, what exactly, are we supposed to 'debunk'? That Nero burned Rome? Or that Christians were sacraficed to the Games? Or what? I am confused.
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