If you wrote the Bible according to today but included the same general info as the Old and New testiments what would it say. How would your version be different. People often say the Bible has faults. Although I believe it is infallable. I think others have different views. What would make yours not questioned?
How would you perfect the Book of all books?
Full Version: The Bible
Write it in english from a modern western cultural viewpoint, so i could easily understand it without having to use lexicons and learning the culture.
Of course that would only make it the perfect book for english speaking westerners.
Of course that would only make it the perfect book for english speaking westerners.
QUOTE(Something Like Laughter @ Jun 13 2005, 02:46 PM)
Write it in english from a modern western cultural viewpoint, so i could easily understand it without having to use lexicons and learning the culture.
Of course that would only make it the perfect book for english speaking westerners.
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Of course that would only make it the perfect book for english speaking westerners.
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Yep, I mean what about the chinese and stuff? Maybe they could make their own too.
Not being God, I cannot speculate as to how to rewrite the BIble. I am only a flawed, sinful human being.
QUOTE(BFG @ Jun 13 2005, 02:56 PM)
Not being God, I cannot speculate as to how to rewrite the BIble. I am only a flawed, sinful human being.
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Yes I understand. But in all reality aren't we all sinners therefore the Bible written by all these great men in Bible times they were used of God. Just as us and the translaters of now. But some of the translations now a days are bogus. For example I think there is a Bible without the mention of blood in it. What?
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QUOTE(BFG @ Jun 13 2005, 02:56 PM)
Not being God, I cannot speculate as to how to rewrite the BIble. I am only a flawed, sinful human being.
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Yes I understand. But in all reality aren't we all sinners therefore the Bible written by all these great men in Bible times they were used of God. Just as us and the translaters of now. But some of the translations now a days are bogus. For example I think there is a Bible without the mention of blood in it. What?
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Not to mention a BIble translated into Klingon, just for the Trekkies.... What the?
Anyway, these men were scribing the Word of God as God spoke to them. Unfortunately, I do not have that luxury
That is hillarious. 
Yeah I know it would have been very interesting to know all of this and put it down into writing. I would have been honored.
Yeah I know it would have been very interesting to know all of this and put it down into writing. I would have been honored.
Deep question 101.. I am going to have to think about it..
I'm not a believer so I would include once upon a time to start it off, yadda yadda yadda Moses did this, blah blah blah Jesus was born, church acceptes gay's, lesbians, tranny's, evolution, condom's and gravity. Take out revelation, rewrite the second coming Jesus and God came on earth forgave everybody and everybody lived happily everafter! 
QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Jun 13 2005, 03:34 PM)
I'm not a believer so I would include once upon a time to start it off, yadda yadda yadda Moses did this, blah blah blah Jesus was born, church acceptes gay's, lesbians, tranny's, evolution, condom's and gravity. Take out revelation, rewrite the second coming Jesus and God came on earth forgave everybody and everybody lived happily everafter!
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Huh? Well let us get this right. The chuch of the Homosexuals and transexuals.
There probably is already a church who supports this. gays need Jesus too.
But that would be interesting.
The only thing I would change would be the wording in Revelation, and try and make it into much more direct words and less symbolic. 
QUOTE(Amalgamut @ Jun 13 2005, 04:47 PM)
The only thing I would change would be the wording in Revelation, and try and make it into much more direct words and less symbolic.
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Yeah it does get a bit confusing at times. It gives me a little headache. lol.
Get rid of Leviticus, and pretty much most of the Old Testament. Then I'd add all the stories of Jesus' life that "didn't make the cut" at the Council of Nicea.
I know I have a book around here somewhere about stories that didn't make it into the Bible...
I know I have a book around here somewhere about stories that didn't make it into the Bible...
Huh? that is neat. But why all the OT? Is it because it is more cruel then the new Test.? That would be a logical reason. But it has very interesting stories throughout the ot.
me and my friends were bored one day in P.E., and came up with an idea: someone should make a ghetto version of the Bible! this way, all those playas and hos who cant understand the original Bible can now accept Jesus as their personal homeboy.
^^hahahah
Heck yeah an ebonics bible! That would be neat.
why not... the original is intended to give comfort to idiots....
if i wrote it it would be:
in the beginning, in a galaxy far far away....
playing right into the fiction of mythology, i would include all those hybrids like lion-o, some transformers, the talking purple dionosaur, talking animals, and all the other good stuff of children's books
after all, the bible is a child's book, or at least for those of a child's maturity!
if i wrote it it would be:
in the beginning, in a galaxy far far away....
playing right into the fiction of mythology, i would include all those hybrids like lion-o, some transformers, the talking purple dionosaur, talking animals, and all the other good stuff of children's books
after all, the bible is a child's book, or at least for those of a child's maturity!
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Jun 13 2005, 07:34 PM)
why not... the original is intended to give comfort to idiots....
if i wrote it it would be:
in the beginning, in a galaxy far far away....
playing right into the fiction of mythology, i would include all those hybrids like lion-o, some transformers, the talking purple dionosaur, talking animals, and all the other good stuff of children's books
after all, the bible is a child's book, or at least for those of a child's maturity!
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if i wrote it it would be:
in the beginning, in a galaxy far far away....
playing right into the fiction of mythology, i would include all those hybrids like lion-o, some transformers, the talking purple dionosaur, talking animals, and all the other good stuff of children's books
after all, the bible is a child's book, or at least for those of a child's maturity!
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Oh hyper that is amusing. Barney in the Bible I am sure my baby would approve. Some Bibles are on a much higher level. The Niv is based on an eighth grade level of reading. So I don't know. Well did you forget a donkey did talk in the Bible. So some would remain the same.
But it wasn't donkey off of Shrek.
i forgot to add i would write in the greys as man's master since religious falk all need something to mindlessly worship. the greys would make excellent masters for you little fleshy puppets! muhahahaha!!!!
QUOTE(Kabutarian @ Jun 13 2005, 12:40 PM)
Then I'd add all the stories of Jesus' life that "didn't make the cut" at the Council of Nicea.
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I would change one thing, in my Bible God would be the most loving God imaginable, big enough to forgive the most heinous criminal, the most compassionate, the most merciful, My God wouldn't be a human dressed up in sheeps clothing terrorizing and killing and vengeful and The punisher,yeah My bible would be a true and useful book. AMEN 
If I were to rewrite your bible, It would be a very short story. Because I would select the parts of it that are true, and there you have it.
QUOTE(curiousity @ Jun 15 2005, 05:49 PM)
If I were to rewrite your bible, It would be a very short story. Because I would select the parts of it that are true, and there you have it.
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What is true? What is false?
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QUOTE(curiousity @ Jun 15 2005, 05:49 PM)
If I were to rewrite your bible, It would be a very short story. Because I would select the parts of it that are true, and there you have it.
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What is true? What is false?
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Anything that's not fantasy. Which isn't a whole lot. And don't talk to me about proving anything because christians can't prove a whole lot about it either.
I wasn't ....
* man someone woke up on wrong side this morning*
I just was curious to see what was false to you. that is all.
* man someone woke up on wrong side this morning*
I just was curious to see what was false to you. that is all.
Sorry, but I guess I'm just tired of hearing that all of it's true and you just have to believe. I find so much of it to be physically impossible, that's why I can't find a whole lot of to be real. 
^ It is okay. I understand some is a little Whoa but it is alright. It all becomes clear in time I think. But I just don't know. 
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^ It is okay. I understand some is a little Whoa but it is alright. It all becomes clear in time I think. But I just don't know.
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things become clearer with time, and rational understanding. that is why christianity is on the decline.
Hyperactive you big ole I can't get mad at you. That is true then give me stastics.
101, I hate to butt in but looking around this site and others like it is proof enough for me that people are turning away from religion and questioning its validity. The stats are clearly in front of you every time you log on to this site.
yeah I know but I like messing with Hyper he is good with numbers.
I am Christian and so are others here. Just a lot of Christians don't come to this site.
I am Christian and so are others here. Just a lot of Christians don't come to this site.
Hyper usually has his stuff right, I'm sure he's getting it now. Maybe I shouldn't have just used this site and others as a reference. Many books and articles are also being written. Look around you and you will see the nonbelievers are rapidly growing in numbers. Although the christians will always be around to tell us we're wrong.
Yeah but if we did use this sight as a reference iot would be correct. But if we weigh the whole world that is different.
Hyper is a genius.
Hyper is a genius.
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According to his findings, diminution of Christianity is greater in the richer nations. For example, in the case of the church growth rate for the past 100 yrs, 7.7% of developed countries have experienced declination, and 67.3% a stagnation. However, none of developing, undevelped countries have undergone any decline or stagnation of church.
The variation between continents is also significant. The population of christians has decreased greatly in Europe, North America where countries are relatively rich on a global scale, whereas the number of Christians increased dramatically in Africa and Asia where there is a high concentration of poor countries.
"The theory that countries where people feel deprived socially and economically tend to be more dependent on religion proved true", said Prof. Lee. "This is the most serious crisis and task that world Christianity is facing in the 21st century."
The variation between continents is also significant. The population of christians has decreased greatly in Europe, North America where countries are relatively rich on a global scale, whereas the number of Christians increased dramatically in Africa and Asia where there is a high concentration of poor countries.
"The theory that countries where people feel deprived socially and economically tend to be more dependent on religion proved true", said Prof. Lee. "This is the most serious crisis and task that world Christianity is facing in the 21st century."
here is one source (the christian post).
http://www.christianpost.com/article/asia/...countries/1.htm
QUOTE(Sheri berri @ Jun 15 2005, 12:59 PM)
I would change one thing, in my Bible God would be the most loving God imaginable, big enough to forgive the most heinous criminal, the most compassionate, the most merciful, My God wouldn't be a human dressed up in sheeps clothing terrorizing and killing and vengeful and The punisher,yeah My bible would be a true and useful book. AMEN
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Amen to that. If I wrote the BIble, mine would be like that too. But then I'd just be copying the Bible we already have
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Jun 16 2005, 06:59 AM)
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According to his findings, diminution of Christianity is greater in the richer nations. For example, in the case of the church growth rate for the past 100 yrs, 7.7% of developed countries have experienced declination, and 67.3% a stagnation. However, none of developing, undevelped countries have undergone any decline or stagnation of church.
The variation between continents is also significant. The population of christians has decreased greatly in Europe, North America where countries are relatively rich on a global scale, whereas the number of Christians increased dramatically in Africa and Asia where there is a high concentration of poor countries.
"The theory that countries where people feel deprived socially and economically tend to be more dependent on religion proved true", said Prof. Lee. "This is the most serious crisis and task that world Christianity is facing in the 21st century."
The variation between continents is also significant. The population of christians has decreased greatly in Europe, North America where countries are relatively rich on a global scale, whereas the number of Christians increased dramatically in Africa and Asia where there is a high concentration of poor countries.
"The theory that countries where people feel deprived socially and economically tend to be more dependent on religion proved true", said Prof. Lee. "This is the most serious crisis and task that world Christianity is facing in the 21st century."
here is one source (the christian post).
http://www.christianpost.com/article/asia/...countries/1.htm
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When the Israelites were entering the Promised Land, they were warned to not forget their God, who brought them there in the first place. But when they prospered in the Promised Land they soon forgot God. It was only in times of trouble and hardship that they turned back to God.
In a first world country where we have more than we need of everything, there seems to be no need for God. People are happy with the situation they are in.
The decline in church attendance, one can surmise, is due not to people waking up to themselves or an increase in education/knowledge, but the simple perceived lack of need for God.
You know what I'm saying?
more likely it is that the continual advancement of rational thought and knowledge has allowed man to put superstition and anecdotal thinking behind him. forget not that rational and logical thought are learned. without an environment condusive to learning how to think, man falls prey to the tought processes that created and sustained religion and all other mythologies.
it is the advancements of the modern world that has allowed for man to emerge from his shell. given the tools, all of humanity will find its way to understanding. it is only when the tools of understanding are denied that religion flourishes.
lest we not forget that even though christianity is on the decline, islam is on the rise. the third chapter of the monotheistic trilogy will soon be the dominant religion. lets hope that it has a better track record than christianity.
it is the advancements of the modern world that has allowed for man to emerge from his shell. given the tools, all of humanity will find its way to understanding. it is only when the tools of understanding are denied that religion flourishes.
lest we not forget that even though christianity is on the decline, islam is on the rise. the third chapter of the monotheistic trilogy will soon be the dominant religion. lets hope that it has a better track record than christianity.
not really there is always a need for god, it is just that false christians think that they can live it up and do things that they want to do and just repent when they need god in their lives. It makes me sick! you need to obey god in the good and the bad times you can't just pick and choose when you want to worship him, he is not a peice of jewelry that you can wear when it's fashonable and take off when not. he is our father, our creator and we need to show him the respect and love that he deserves.
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more likely it is that the continual advancement of rational thought and knowledge has allowed man to put superstition and anecdotal thinking behind him. forget not that rational and logical thought are learned. without an environment condusive to learning how to think, man falls prey to the tought processes that created and sustained religion and all other mythologies.
it is the advancements of the modern world that has allowed for man to emerge from his shell. given the tools, all of humanity will find its way to understanding. it is only when the tools of understanding are denied that religion flourishes.
lest we not forget that even though christianity is on the decline, islam is on the rise. the third chapter of the monotheistic trilogy will soon be the dominant religion. lets hope that it has a better track record than christianity.
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it is the advancements of the modern world that has allowed for man to emerge from his shell. given the tools, all of humanity will find its way to understanding. it is only when the tools of understanding are denied that religion flourishes.
lest we not forget that even though christianity is on the decline, islam is on the rise. the third chapter of the monotheistic trilogy will soon be the dominant religion. lets hope that it has a better track record than christianity.
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Imagine if you will, the United States falling from its point as a superpower (the reason is not important, just imagine, ok). This in turn triggers a slide in all first world countries back into poverty. I guarantee you, there will be a sudden and sharp increase in religious attendance. Where's your advancement of rational thought then?
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not really there is always a need for god, it is just that false christians think that they can live it up and do things that they want to do and just repent when they need god in their lives. It makes me sick! you need to obey god in the good and the bad times you can't just pick and choose when you want to worship him, he is not a peice of jewelry that you can wear when it's fashonable and take off when not. he is our father, our creator and we need to show him the respect and love that he deserves.
Exactly
what do you want me to say? that 99% of humans are egotistical, shallow, spineless idiots?
fine, 99% of humans are egotistical, shallow, spineless idoits!
in reality, don't count on such a running to superstitous nonsense just because things get a bit rough. while it is true that people surrender to irrational thought without much cause, there are more places to run than religion.
i could be wrong though. perhaps you are right and 99% of the human population consists of morons.
fine, 99% of humans are egotistical, shallow, spineless idoits!
in reality, don't count on such a running to superstitous nonsense just because things get a bit rough. while it is true that people surrender to irrational thought without much cause, there are more places to run than religion.
i could be wrong though. perhaps you are right and 99% of the human population consists of morons.
i guess i might throw in wisdom of solomon. it can be useful in understanding some Jewish and Christian theology.
I would make it carry a warning lable that stated, "Warning! This book contains material that is X rated for sexual content and violence! Not suitable for viewing by minors!"
Thanks Hyper for the info. Although it states that Christianity is on a fall. I still find Christianity to best suit me.
* it fits like a glove on me*
but if your OJ the glove doesn't fit. lol.
Although it states that Christianity is on a fall. I still find Christianity to best suit me. * it fits like a glove on me*
but if your OJ the glove doesn't fit. lol.
But we all know that OJ was innocent because the gloved didn't fit!
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But we all know that OJ was innocent because the gloved didn't fit!
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Well the thing is I was stating was an analogy. Obviously the man isn't religious or he wouldn't have even been in that prediciment. That man just got off lucky. But his time will come and if he did kill. Justice will be served.
I would write it as a story book; simple and clear that its all bullshit.
Personally I think there are good stories within the Bible
Joseph with the Coat of many colors
Samson
david and golaith
Noah
cain and Abel
Many can go from here
There are lot's of good storys and how are these I stated BS?
Joseph with the Coat of many colors
Samson
david and golaith
Noah
cain and Abel
Many can go from here
There are lot's of good storys and how are these I stated BS?
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Well the thing is I was stating was an analogy
Ma'am, I knew that. My response was a clumsy attempt at humor and didn't mean to upset you - You is one of the "Good Guys"
I am not mad Mako. I just am a little woo hoo today. I think I knew it was a joke that you were saying. I just wanted to say something back.
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