OK now this may seem odd. but i am postive it happened. i was laying in bed, just relaxing, and i note WAS NOT ASLEEP. i was just laying thinking like i normally do. then all of a sudden, i felt transported. now i thought i was jsut fantising, but it was much to real. i felt like i had channeled myself to another place. im pretty positive this was the afterlife. now im not religious, in fact i hate all religion, and do NOT belive in god. i never said this was heaven, remember that. but i do feel this was where we go when we die. i say this becuase i saw loved ones of mine both living and dead. anyways, i really want to tell you all what i saw, but i want to know if you want to hear it or not, becuase i know these kind of talks can get pretty intense, so let me know yay nor nay, and ill will tell
Full Version: i think i saw the afterlife.
You shouldn't hate religion. Just do what the rest of us atheists do...tolerate and look down your nose at them 
As for you travelling to the afterlife, here are a few possible explanations:
A hallucination, a dream, a daydream, an alcoholic induced vision, etc.
As for you travelling to the afterlife, here are a few possible explanations:
A hallucination, a dream, a daydream, an alcoholic induced vision, etc.
Satan loves me?
i doubt you saw the afterlife, as all accounts i've heard of people seeing it involve near death experiences and it seems you did not have one of them
Were you on any medication at the time? this could have affected you, or perhaps it was a black out or something?
regardless i'd like to hear about your experience just out of pure interest
Were you on any medication at the time? this could have affected you, or perhaps it was a black out or something?
regardless i'd like to hear about your experience just out of pure interest
Have you had the loved ones on your mind a lot recently?
maybe u passed out for a second and dreamed and as u opened ur eyes back open or w/e it seemed like u didnt fall asleep meanwhile u did, that happened to me once so ya
I thought you only saw the afterlife (heaven/hell) when you died. Or a near death experience. But just lying in bed? Never heard of that before.
You may have simply been using your third eye, giving imagination whole new world
This place sounds very relaxing.
Astral projection.
So what was it man? It can't be to bogus, I mean you believe it right so speak it.
These are methods, and a brief explanation of what may of happened. Did you do anything like this?
In astral projection you remain attached to your physical body by a silver "umbilical type" cord. Some people see the cord and others do not.
You are aware of things you encounter along the way while out of your body.
To astral project, as with all out-of-body experiences - one must feel totally relaxed, clothing fitting comfortable, reclining is best. Often a comforter is best over the body as the physical body sometimes gets cold when you travel out.
Find a quiet place . . . free of distractions. . .
Adjust the lighting and room temperature. . .
Adjust clothing . . . footwear . . . eyeglasses.
Sit down or lie down . . . Find a position that is comfortable for you . . .
Quiet your mind . . . Still your thoughts . . .
Relax your body. . . Your face . . . your jaw . . . relaxing . . . Your shoulders . . . your neck . . . relaxed Your arms . . . your hands . . . feel at peace . . . Your torso . . . your hips . . . letting go . . . Your legs . . . your feet . . . totally relaxed . . .
Focus on your breathing . . . Inhale slowly and deeply through your nose . . . Retain the breath as long as is comfortable . . . Exhale through the mouth slowly and completely . . . Repeat for two more breaths . . . or as is comfortable.
Let go of the fear of leaving your physical body. Remember you astral project when you sleep.
See yourself floating away from your physical body. You may feel as release or perhaps hear a sound as you leave.
If you get fearful, please stop as you are not ready for astral projection. Anything done in metaphysics should feel comfortable and easy. If it is stressful, let it go for now, as you are not ready.
Step One:
Relax the body. According to Monroe, "the ability to relax is the first prerequisite, perhaps even the first step itself" to having an OBE. (out of body experience). This includes both physical and mental relaxation. Monroe does not suggest a method of attaining this relaxation, although progressive muscle relaxation, coupled with deep breathing exercises (inhale 1, exhale 2, inhale 3... until about 50 or 100) are known to work well.
Step Two:
Enter the state bordering sleep. This is known as the hypnogogic state. Once again, Monroe doesn't recommend any method of doing this. One way is to hold your forearm up, while keeping your upper arm on the bed, or ground. As you start to fall asleep, your arm will fall, and you will awaken again. With practice you can learn to control the hypnogogic state without using your arm. Another method is to concentrate on an object. When other images start to enter your thoughts, you have entered the hypnogogic state. Passively watch these images. This will also help you maintain this state of near-sleep. Monroe calls this Condition A.
Step Three:
Deepen this state. Begin to clear your mind. Observe your field of vision through your closed eyelids at the blackness in front of your. After a while you may start to notice light patterns. These are simply neural discharges. They have no specific effect. Ignore them. When they cease, one has entered what Monroe calls Condition B. From here, one must enter an even deeper state of relaxation which Monroe calls Condition C-- a state of such relaxation that you lose all awareness of the body and sensory stimulation. You are almost in a void in which your only source of stimulation will be your own thoughts.
The ideal state for leaving your body is Condition D. This is Condition C when it is voluntarily induced from a rested and refreshed condition and is not the effect of normal fatigue. To achieve Condition D, Monroe suggests that you practice entering it in the morning just as you are getting up, or after a short nap.
Step Four:
Enter a state of Vibration. This is the most important part of the technique, and also the most vague.
Many projectors have noted these vibrations at the onset of projection. They can be experienced as a mild tingling, or as if electricity is being shot through the body. Their cause is a mystery. It may actually be the astral body trying to leave the physical body.
For entering into the vibrational state, he offers the following directions:
1. Remove all jewelry or other items that might be touching your skin.
2. Darken the room so that no light can be seen through your eyelids, but do not shut out all light.
3. Lie down with your body along a north-south axis, with your head pointed toward magnetic north.
4. Loosen all clothing, but keep covered so that you are slightly warmer than what might normally be comfortable.
5. Be sure you are in a location where, and at a time when, there will be absolutely no noise to disturb you.
6. Enter a state of relaxation.
7. Give yourself the mental suggestion that you will remember all that occurs during the upcoming session that will be beneficial to your well being. Repeat this five times.
8. As your breathe, concentrate on the void in front of you.
9. Select a point a foot away from your forehead, then change your point of mental reference to six feet.
10. Turn the point 90 degrees upward by drawing an imaginary line parallel to your body axis up above you head. Focus there and reach out for the vibrations at that point and bring them back into your body.
Even if you don't know what these vibrations are, you will know when you have achieved contact with them.
Step Five:
Learn to control the vibrational state. Practice controlling them by mentally pushing them into your head, down to your toes, making them surge throughout your entire body, and producing vibrational waves from head to foot. To produce this wave effect, concentrate on the vibrations and mentally push a wave out of your head and guide it down your body. Practice this until you can induce these waves on command. Once you have control of the vibrational state, you are ready to leave the body.
Step Six:
Begin with a partial separation. The key here is thought control. Keep your mind firmly focused on the idea of leaving the body. Do not let it wander. Stray thoughts might cause you to lose control of the state.
Now having entered the vibrational state, begin exploring the OBE by releasing a hand or a foot of the "second body". Monroe suggests that you extend a limb until it comes in contact with a familiar object, such as a wall near your bed. Then push it through the object. Return the limb by placing it back in to coincidence with the physical one, decrease the vibrational rate, and then terminate the experiment. Lie quietly until you have fully returned to normal. This exercise will prepare you for full separation.
Step Seven
Dissociate yourself from the body. Monroe suggests two methods for this. One method is to lift out of the body. To do this, think about getting lighter and lighter after entering the vibrational state. Think about how nice it would be to float upward. Keep this thought in mind at all costs and let no extraneous thoughts interrupt it. An OBE will occur naturally at this point.
Another method is the "Rotation Metod" or "roll-out" technique. When you have achieved the vibrational state, try to roll over as if you were turning over in bed. Do not attempt to roll over physically. Try to twist your body from the top and virtually roll over into your second body right out of your physical self. At this point, you will be out of the body, but next to it. Think of floating upward, and you should find yourself floating above the body.
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In astral projection you remain attached to your physical body by a silver "umbilical type" cord. Some people see the cord and others do not.
You are aware of things you encounter along the way while out of your body.
To astral project, as with all out-of-body experiences - one must feel totally relaxed, clothing fitting comfortable, reclining is best. Often a comforter is best over the body as the physical body sometimes gets cold when you travel out.
Find a quiet place . . . free of distractions. . .
Adjust the lighting and room temperature. . .
Adjust clothing . . . footwear . . . eyeglasses.
Sit down or lie down . . . Find a position that is comfortable for you . . .
Quiet your mind . . . Still your thoughts . . .
Relax your body. . . Your face . . . your jaw . . . relaxing . . . Your shoulders . . . your neck . . . relaxed Your arms . . . your hands . . . feel at peace . . . Your torso . . . your hips . . . letting go . . . Your legs . . . your feet . . . totally relaxed . . .
Focus on your breathing . . . Inhale slowly and deeply through your nose . . . Retain the breath as long as is comfortable . . . Exhale through the mouth slowly and completely . . . Repeat for two more breaths . . . or as is comfortable.
Let go of the fear of leaving your physical body. Remember you astral project when you sleep.
See yourself floating away from your physical body. You may feel as release or perhaps hear a sound as you leave.
If you get fearful, please stop as you are not ready for astral projection. Anything done in metaphysics should feel comfortable and easy. If it is stressful, let it go for now, as you are not ready.
Step One:
Relax the body. According to Monroe, "the ability to relax is the first prerequisite, perhaps even the first step itself" to having an OBE. (out of body experience). This includes both physical and mental relaxation. Monroe does not suggest a method of attaining this relaxation, although progressive muscle relaxation, coupled with deep breathing exercises (inhale 1, exhale 2, inhale 3... until about 50 or 100) are known to work well.
Step Two:
Enter the state bordering sleep. This is known as the hypnogogic state. Once again, Monroe doesn't recommend any method of doing this. One way is to hold your forearm up, while keeping your upper arm on the bed, or ground. As you start to fall asleep, your arm will fall, and you will awaken again. With practice you can learn to control the hypnogogic state without using your arm. Another method is to concentrate on an object. When other images start to enter your thoughts, you have entered the hypnogogic state. Passively watch these images. This will also help you maintain this state of near-sleep. Monroe calls this Condition A.
Step Three:
Deepen this state. Begin to clear your mind. Observe your field of vision through your closed eyelids at the blackness in front of your. After a while you may start to notice light patterns. These are simply neural discharges. They have no specific effect. Ignore them. When they cease, one has entered what Monroe calls Condition B. From here, one must enter an even deeper state of relaxation which Monroe calls Condition C-- a state of such relaxation that you lose all awareness of the body and sensory stimulation. You are almost in a void in which your only source of stimulation will be your own thoughts.
The ideal state for leaving your body is Condition D. This is Condition C when it is voluntarily induced from a rested and refreshed condition and is not the effect of normal fatigue. To achieve Condition D, Monroe suggests that you practice entering it in the morning just as you are getting up, or after a short nap.
Step Four:
Enter a state of Vibration. This is the most important part of the technique, and also the most vague.
Many projectors have noted these vibrations at the onset of projection. They can be experienced as a mild tingling, or as if electricity is being shot through the body. Their cause is a mystery. It may actually be the astral body trying to leave the physical body.
For entering into the vibrational state, he offers the following directions:
1. Remove all jewelry or other items that might be touching your skin.
2. Darken the room so that no light can be seen through your eyelids, but do not shut out all light.
3. Lie down with your body along a north-south axis, with your head pointed toward magnetic north.
4. Loosen all clothing, but keep covered so that you are slightly warmer than what might normally be comfortable.
5. Be sure you are in a location where, and at a time when, there will be absolutely no noise to disturb you.
6. Enter a state of relaxation.
7. Give yourself the mental suggestion that you will remember all that occurs during the upcoming session that will be beneficial to your well being. Repeat this five times.
8. As your breathe, concentrate on the void in front of you.
9. Select a point a foot away from your forehead, then change your point of mental reference to six feet.
10. Turn the point 90 degrees upward by drawing an imaginary line parallel to your body axis up above you head. Focus there and reach out for the vibrations at that point and bring them back into your body.
Even if you don't know what these vibrations are, you will know when you have achieved contact with them.
Step Five:
Learn to control the vibrational state. Practice controlling them by mentally pushing them into your head, down to your toes, making them surge throughout your entire body, and producing vibrational waves from head to foot. To produce this wave effect, concentrate on the vibrations and mentally push a wave out of your head and guide it down your body. Practice this until you can induce these waves on command. Once you have control of the vibrational state, you are ready to leave the body.
Step Six:
Begin with a partial separation. The key here is thought control. Keep your mind firmly focused on the idea of leaving the body. Do not let it wander. Stray thoughts might cause you to lose control of the state.
Now having entered the vibrational state, begin exploring the OBE by releasing a hand or a foot of the "second body". Monroe suggests that you extend a limb until it comes in contact with a familiar object, such as a wall near your bed. Then push it through the object. Return the limb by placing it back in to coincidence with the physical one, decrease the vibrational rate, and then terminate the experiment. Lie quietly until you have fully returned to normal. This exercise will prepare you for full separation.
Step Seven
Dissociate yourself from the body. Monroe suggests two methods for this. One method is to lift out of the body. To do this, think about getting lighter and lighter after entering the vibrational state. Think about how nice it would be to float upward. Keep this thought in mind at all costs and let no extraneous thoughts interrupt it. An OBE will occur naturally at this point.
Another method is the "Rotation Metod" or "roll-out" technique. When you have achieved the vibrational state, try to roll over as if you were turning over in bed. Do not attempt to roll over physically. Try to twist your body from the top and virtually roll over into your second body right out of your physical self. At this point, you will be out of the body, but next to it. Think of floating upward, and you should find yourself floating above the body.
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ok it seems you are all willing to hear.
Well...first off it wasnt a place in the clouds, there were no angels, anything like that. what it was, was a tall side of a cliff, or mountian type place. it seemed to be rough and jagged. from whereever i was, i was floating, and i was loking down and at and angle and the wall. now it seemed to represent more of a wall, but it was monsterious in size. right in the middle of this wall/mountain was a hole, and these glowing type of things were going in and out of. now heres the weird part. out maybe 300-500 feet, so it seemd, were these small kinda od like meeting places. now let me tell you here, i saw a bunch of floating glowing shapes and colors. now even though they did not have bodliy shapes, i could tell they were my friends, family. i could even point out a few people, such as my ex girlfriend and such. i repeat, there was no body shapes, just colors. anyway, it seemed like everyone in the WORLD was just lingering outside of this "hole" in the wall. i myself was not in a human form, but colors like the rest. at this point i came back to myself, and relaized where that must have been. thats when i came to a conclusion that you dont go to heaven when you die, you just get transported to another place, like the one i went to. now im not too sure what was in the hole. it looked comforting though. another thing i should mention, is that this place i went to seemed very organic, but advanced at the same time. it was very comforting there as well. when i was back in my body so to speak, i thought fo ahwile waht the trip to a place like that would be like. i soon felt myself feeling naked, yet wrapped around pure blackness that i could make semi figures out of when i looked in the of me. this was the closest i could imagine to floating in space. i could feel myself moving forward, and what seemed like forever in the distance, layed a glowing greensish/blueish ball of light, that all my sense were telling me was that place i had gone to before. most of the colors i saw in the episode were greens, blues, grays, and purples. maybe a tad bite of purple/redish. more on the purple side though.
anyways, that was my experience. note i was not on drugs, i was not drinking, i was not sleeping. hell right before this i was talking to my housemate. i thought thiswas a really amazing experience, ill probably never forget it. i would love to go back there someday!
edit:xoisk, now that i think about it, i semi remember feeling some sort of ropeish connection from my back/spine, but i remember it not interfering much with my moving.
Well...first off it wasnt a place in the clouds, there were no angels, anything like that. what it was, was a tall side of a cliff, or mountian type place. it seemed to be rough and jagged. from whereever i was, i was floating, and i was loking down and at and angle and the wall. now it seemed to represent more of a wall, but it was monsterious in size. right in the middle of this wall/mountain was a hole, and these glowing type of things were going in and out of. now heres the weird part. out maybe 300-500 feet, so it seemd, were these small kinda od like meeting places. now let me tell you here, i saw a bunch of floating glowing shapes and colors. now even though they did not have bodliy shapes, i could tell they were my friends, family. i could even point out a few people, such as my ex girlfriend and such. i repeat, there was no body shapes, just colors. anyway, it seemed like everyone in the WORLD was just lingering outside of this "hole" in the wall. i myself was not in a human form, but colors like the rest. at this point i came back to myself, and relaized where that must have been. thats when i came to a conclusion that you dont go to heaven when you die, you just get transported to another place, like the one i went to. now im not too sure what was in the hole. it looked comforting though. another thing i should mention, is that this place i went to seemed very organic, but advanced at the same time. it was very comforting there as well. when i was back in my body so to speak, i thought fo ahwile waht the trip to a place like that would be like. i soon felt myself feeling naked, yet wrapped around pure blackness that i could make semi figures out of when i looked in the of me. this was the closest i could imagine to floating in space. i could feel myself moving forward, and what seemed like forever in the distance, layed a glowing greensish/blueish ball of light, that all my sense were telling me was that place i had gone to before. most of the colors i saw in the episode were greens, blues, grays, and purples. maybe a tad bite of purple/redish. more on the purple side though.
anyways, that was my experience. note i was not on drugs, i was not drinking, i was not sleeping. hell right before this i was talking to my housemate. i thought thiswas a really amazing experience, ill probably never forget it. i would love to go back there someday!
edit:xoisk, now that i think about it, i semi remember feeling some sort of ropeish connection from my back/spine, but i remember it not interfering much with my moving.
QUOTE(Tia @ Jun 14 2005, 04:55 AM)
Have you had the loved ones on your mind a lot recently?
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yes i have as a matter of fact. yet they always are
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