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Touch of Evil
Some lady told George Noory last night on Coast to Coast that she knew a person who was a 7th Son of a 7th Son, and she was trying to find out more about him.

George ended his first hour by saying a 7th Son was a gifted person with ESP like powers..

I don't know if you listen to Iron Maiden or not but they have a whole album based upon the 7th Son.. I heard it was a sci-fi series of books..


Also, my friend borrowed some type of vampire book from somebody and told me there was something in it about the 7th Son..

Anyone have any info?
nick_fury
all i know is that a 7th son of a 7th son is said to be born with curative (healing) powers in irish folklore, and that in some vampire stories it is possible to be born a vampire if you are the 7th son of a 7th son.
hope that helps a little original.gif
Mr Ed
Well, in a Terry Pratchett book the 8th son of the 8th son of a wizard is a sorcerer. I don't think that is much help to you though...
Stixxman
My wife's grandfather is a seventh son of a seventh son, and he can do weird things. I once seen him take a worm and put it in his palm. Whats so weird about that you ask, it shriveled up and died. The man is 77 years old and still does construction for godsake. But he don't look as old as some 55 yeat olds I know its creepy. His dad was the seventh son of 8 boys of 14 total siblings, and he was the seventh son of seven boys from a total of 13 siblings. He in turn had 13 kids of his own and my mother in law was the seventh child but shes a girl so I don't know how that works out. She's still creepy though. blink.gif
aquatus1
I was under the impression that this was supposed to be an old Romanian gypsy story.
Stixxman
story or no story I saw it happen for real. There was no prep, it was a hundred percent spontaneous. It could not have been faked because I seen him do it once and my wife said she seen him do it many times. Its kinda like me not being able to wear watches.
Power2the1
QUOTE(Touch of Evil @ Jun 14 2005, 10:25 AM)
Some lady told George Noory last night on Coast to Coast that she knew a person who was a 7th Son of a 7th Son, and she was trying to find out more about him. 

George ended his first hour by saying a 7th Son was a gifted person with ESP like powers..

I don't know if you listen to Iron Maiden or not but they have a whole album based upon the 7th Son.. I heard it was a sci-fi series of books..


Also, my friend borrowed some type of vampire book from somebody and told me there was something in it about the 7th Son..

Anyone have any info?
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Haha, when I saw your topic, Iron Maiden was the first thing I thought of. I had no idea until now that the 7th son of a 7th son was anything other than a heavy metal album from Iron Maiden. Interesting nonetheless. One can learn tidbits of something everyday from this site...
Stixxman
Yeah thats the same thing i thought when my wife said it but then when I asked her if it was from iron maiden she asked who they were and then asked if it was from that scene from bill and ted's bogus juorney. I knew something was up then.
TooFarGone
There is some metaphysical power behind the number seven. I'll look into it.
mr_halo
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 14 2005, 03:09 PM)
I was under the impression that this was supposed to be an old Romanian gypsy story.
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thats always a possibility yes.gif

i don't know much about this sort of thing though no.gif

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matthewgoad
Wait, so why can't you wear watches? I missed that part
Azariah
As someone pointed out, the seventh son of a seventh son is supposed to have extraordinary healing powers, but they didn't mention that they are also supposedly torn between good and evil, the same powers that have blessed them also curse them. In different cultures the seventh son has different meanings. For example, some cultures believe that the seventh sons would be a werewolf and would often be abandoned, and it was also rumored in some cultures that the seventh son of a seventh son may be a vampire.
The healing powers of the seventh son is also a superstition held in France, the seventh son was called a Marcou and branded with a fleur-de-lis (though i've also heard debate of whether it was the fleur-de-lis or the rose, since traditionally the sixth son is branded with the fleur-de-lis, and the the seventh is branded with a rose, but i don't know much about all that.)
I'm not sure of the origins of this myth though, but I don't think the origin is known either. hope that helped.
Feenix Fire
this is so interesting. i've never heard of this before. Hey Stixman. What other wierd stuff can your wife's grandfather do? lol this is cool. i can't wait for Jeremy to come back with his finds on the number 7. maybe i'll do a little research too.
Lunartix
Some people think Iron Maiden, but I think G.I.Joe.

The Cobra hypnotist known as Crystal Ball was a seventh son of a seventh son. His file card only suggests that such people are believed to possess "supernatural powers" including limited mind reading.

This write up was written by Stephen King, in exchange for having a different G.I.Joe character named after his son. Despite this, Crystall Ball is one of the least popular G.I.Joe characters ever!

You've got to be of a certain age to remember this guy, though.

Crystal Ball
earthchick
There are references to the seventh son of the seventh son throughout the Bible. In fact the number 7 period seems to be of special significance to God. For instance, King David was a seventh son, God rested on the seventh day, the 7 headed monster and the 7 seals in the book of Revelation. To name a few.
Tia
The 7th son of the 7th son, I've always thought it had to do with the paranormal not sure in which way though.
Stixxman
The thing with me and watches is...I can't wear them, they never work longer than a week. Its true and I've heard all kinds of reasons like I just happen to buy the ones that are on their last legs to a strong magnetic field in my body(although how I got the one on its last legs fifteen times in a row I don't know). I don't know what the real reason is but it always happens. (not even getting them fixed or having the battery replaced works either they still break) huh.gif
matthewgoad
The watch thing is very interesting man. Anything else weird happen around you or is it just the watches?
Stixxman
Too many intances of deja vu and my ear rings whenever a tv or computer or any kind of monitor is turned on around me.
Bogeyman
The medium / Psychic Gordon Smith is the 7th son of a 7th son.....In Ireland they are reknowned for having healing powers
matthewgoad
I don't know if any of you have seen the Ernest movies.. Anyway I was watching Ernest Scared Stupid today, and in the movie his character was, "The seventh son of the seventh son, the baby, the boy." Anyway supposedly he had the power that comes with being the prementioned title. It's a pretty funny movie, not related really, but I guess it works.
seventhson'sdaughter
QUOTE(Stixxman @ Jun 15 2005, 09:53 AM)
The thing with me and watches is...I can't wear them, they never work longer than a week.  Its true and I've heard all kinds of reasons like I just happen to buy the ones that are on their last legs to a strong magnetic field in my body(although how I got the one on its last legs fifteen times in a row I don't know).  I don't know what the real reason is but it always happens.  (not even getting them fixed or having the battery replaced works either they still break) huh.gif
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The same thing happens to me - can only wear an anti-magnetic diver's watch. All others will not work on me, though they will work on my desk; or if my sister wears them. I work in electronics and cannot handle static-sensitive devices either - have seen this many times. I believe there is a connection between this and the watches. The electronic chips get "blown" if I handle them, even if I am "grounded" at the time. I am also the daughter of a 7th son of a 7th son; and my Dad had these weird abilities: he was a healer of burns; and a finder of lost objects. Never could understand these things and found it hard to believe even though I witnessed his "talents" many times.
seventhson'sdaughter
QUOTE(Touch of Evil @ Jun 14 2005, 10:25 AM)
Some lady told George Noory last night on Coast to Coast that she knew a person who was a 7th Son of a 7th Son, and she was trying to find out more about him. 

George ended his first hour by saying a 7th Son was a gifted person with ESP like powers..

I don't know if you listen to Iron Maiden or not but they have a whole album based upon the 7th Son.. I heard it was a sci-fi series of books..


Also, my friend borrowed some type of vampire book from somebody and told me there was something in it about the 7th Son..

Anyone have any info?
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My Dad was a seventh son of a seventh son; and he told me he knew from his earliest memory that he could heal burns. No one told him this - he just knew. I have seen him heal burns on many people thrughout the years; and he healed my hands when I was burned very badly as a child, and kept me from having to have skin grafts. He was also able to find lost objects very quickly. We never understood his "gifts", and neither did he; and even though it was so hard to believe, we saw it happen so many times that we came to believe. The only psychic ability he ever showed was his prediction of his own death at age 85 in May 2004.
Chiron_the_Horse
QUOTE(earthchick @ Jun 15 2005, 01:14 AM) [snapback]677631[/snapback]

There are references to the seventh son of the seventh son throughout the Bible. In fact the number 7 period seems to be of special significance to God. For instance, King David was a seventh son, God rested on the seventh day, the 7 headed monster and the 7 seals in the book of Revelation. To name a few.



I am one. There are things I do no one understands,so I don't talk about it.
I am the 3rd generation of 7th sons..my youngest is the 4th. The first one was a voodoo practicing pirate. We are an odd clan.
psyche101
^ Hrrmmzz Odd seems a light description?
Episteme
I always thought the 7th son "powers" came from Orson Scott Card's "Alvin Maker" series of books. At least I had never heard anything special about them before reading the series anyway <shrugs>
RamboIII
i thought that the 7th of a 7th was supposed to kill the vampire or werewolf original.gif something weird like that
Melly
QUOTE(Episteme @ Apr 27 2006, 08:39 PM) [snapback]1166448[/snapback]

I always thought the 7th son "powers" came from Orson Scott Card's "Alvin Maker" series of books. At least I had never heard anything special about them before reading the series anyway <shrugs>

I read the book The Seventh Son by Orson Scott Card. Not a bad read. I'd recommend it to people interested in this topic.
najaesouljah
QUOTE(Stixxman @ Jun 14 2005, 07:06 AM) [snapback]675570[/snapback]

My wife's grandfather is a seventh son of a seventh son, and he can do weird things. I once seen him take a worm and put it in his palm. Whats so weird about that you ask, it shriveled up and died. The man is 77 years old and still does construction for godsake. But he don't look as old as some 55 yeat olds I know its creepy. His dad was the seventh son of 8 boys of 14 total siblings, and he was the seventh son of seven boys from a total of 13 siblings. He in turn had 13 kids of his own and my mother in law was the seventh child but shes a girl so I don't know how that works out. She's still creepy though. blink.gif

Thats interesting. I have never heard anything about this subject.
Wookie McFly
Here are some thoughts about the #7

A highly symbolic number in the Hebrew Bible, being, for example, the day on which God rested in Genesis
The number of nations God told the Hebrews they would displace when they came to Israel. (Deut. 7:1)"When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and shall cast out many nations before thee, the Hittite, and the Girgash**e, and the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite, seven nations greater and mightier than thou"
The number of ayat in surat al-Fatiha
The number of heavens in Islamic tradition
The number of Earths in Islamic tradition
The numbers seven, seventy, seventy thousand, etc. are also used in Islamic traditions to denote an infinite or high number. In Arabic seventy, seventy thousand, etc. is used to mean infinite. This is because 1 is the smallest, 2 is just after 1, 5 and 10 are exact, 4 and 6 are just before and after 5, 9 is just before 10. This leaves 3, 7, and 8. 8 is closer to the end although it is larger. 8 is also an even number so divisible by 2. Between 3 and 7, 3 is smaller so 7 is chosen to represent infinite.
The number of the Deadly Sins: lust, avarice, envy, pride, sloth, gluttony and wrath
The seven terraces of Mount Purgatory (one per deadly sin)
The number of sacraments in the Roman Catholic faith
The number of palms in an Egyptian Sacred Cubit
The number of heads of the beast of the book of Revelation, and of some other monsters, like the hydra
The minor symbol number of yang from the Taoist yin-yang
The number of times Cain will be avenged upon for the murder of his brother Abel
The number of ranks in Mithraism
The number of gateways traversed by Inanna during her descent into the underworld


And this is just a short list. In addition, 7 is a prime number and throughout history primes have had special sig.

Being the 7th son of a 7th son just magnifies this importance.

I know nothing about the stories or abilities of such men, but thought I would post this regardless as some members were wondering about the number 7.

jabberwocky
Over here in Ireland, seventh sons of seventh sons are highly regarded, as stated, for healing powers. My father in law, and several workmates swear that they have been cured of numerous illnesses by these people. They regularly 'advertise' in the paper and, as far as I'm aware, people flock to them; some people holding more faith in them than the medical profession.
Bahamut_0
There is a brazilian saying that those who have 7 male sons the last one is a werewolf, I suppose there are a lot of superstitions about the number 7.
camondascia
the seventh son is a generalisation it is also the seventh daughter...... it is mearly the seventh child of a seventh child.... and all it entails is that they have a greater welspring of energy (tan-tien) and the whole torn between good and evil is no more than the same strugle we all face... only with greater power to use to that side. solomon mentions an equasion in one of his lesser keys about the seventh child and that they are powerfull but that if they do not learn to controll it then they normaly dont live as long, because the energy just burns them up faster and they mearly age faster than average, but if they learn to focus it and controll it then they can live much longer than the average human.... this may be why the grandpa mentioned before seemed younger....
i have a i am the second child of seven and the youngest is a boy if he hass a seventh child then i will have to see what happens
my_psychosis
This reminds me of a book I read years ago by Susan Cooper. The dark is rising. It's a very good book you should read it if you havent. There are 7 books in the series. (hey blink.gif ) Here is a little about it.
Will Stanton is the youngest child (and, significantly, the seventh son of a seventh son, no less) of a large English farming family who, on the eve of his eleventh birthday, learns that he is the last of the Old Ones, immortal beings whose task it has been since the dawn of time to protect the world from the forces of the Dark. It is Will's task to seek six magical Signs, each in the form of a cross within a circle, which, when united, will provide the ultimate weapon against the Dark. Will is aided in his quest by other Old Ones, most importantly Merriman Lyon, introduced to us in Over Sea and whose true identity provides the series' most direct link to the Arthurian legends. Will's enemies include the sinister Rider, who menaces Will from astride a black stallion, and the mad Walker, who seeks the Signs himself out of a demented desire for revenge against Merriman.
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Darkflame
I came up with some information about the meaning around number 7

Here goes:

"The number 7 is the number of completion. Time and space. Duration, distance. Old age, dissipation, death, or endurance, stability, immortality. The seven seals, principles in man, notes and colors. The triad and quaternary; the cycle of evolution; wisdom, perfection, equipoise, balance, rest. Such people have a very high convincing power. It represents spirituality, sensitivity, sympathy and mystery. The number 7 is the number of illusions and delusion, sometimes deception - but also of healing and miracles, faith and dream come true. It is the symbol of Neptune. The colors that harmonize with the number 7 vibration are: sea green, light yellow, aqua, pink and white. 7 people should avoid wearing black or dark colors."

I guess this has something to do with the stories your guys are telling.

when.i.am.queen.
QUOTE(camondascia @ Mar 13 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]1579634[/snapback]
the seventh son is a generalisation it is also the seventh daughter...... it is mearly the seventh child of a seventh child.... and all it entails is that they have a greater welspring of energy (tan-tien) and the whole torn between good and evil is no more than the same strugle we all face... only with greater power to use to that side. solomon mentions an equasion in one of his lesser keys about the seventh child and that they are powerfull but that if they do not learn to controll it then they normaly dont live as long, because the energy just burns them up faster and they mearly age faster than average, but if they learn to focus it and controll it then they can live much longer than the average human.... this may be why the grandpa mentioned before seemed younger....
i have a i am the second child of seven and the youngest is a boy if he hass a seventh child then i will have to see what happens


I'm pretty certain that it is the 7th son of a 7th son for it to work, not the seventh child of a seventh child.

QUOTE(Darkflame @ Mar 16 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]1584083[/snapback]
I came up with some information about the meaning around number 7

Here goes:

"The number 7 is the number of completion. Time and space. Duration, distance. Old age, dissipation, death, or endurance, stability, immortality. The seven seals, principles in man, notes and colors. The triad and quaternary; the cycle of evolution; wisdom, perfection, equipoise, balance, rest. Such people have a very high convincing power. It represents spirituality, sensitivity, sympathy and mystery. The number 7 is the number of illusions and delusion, sometimes deception - but also of healing and miracles, faith and dream come true. It is the symbol of Neptune. The colors that harmonize with the number 7 vibration are: sea green, light yellow, aqua, pink and white. 7 people should avoid wearing black or dark colors."

I guess this has something to do with the stories your guys are telling.


Wow, talk about above and beyond, Darkflame. "7 people should avoid wearing dark colors"
I wonder why that should be?
black dahlia 83
I'm the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter......
when.i.am.queen.
QUOTE(Black Dahlia 83 @ Mar 16 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]1584141[/snapback]
I'm the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter......


Noticed anything funny about you lately?
StoneAgeQueen
QUOTE(Stixxman @ Jun 15 2005, 02:43 PM) [snapback]678011[/snapback]
and my ear rings whenever a tv or computer or any kind of monitor is turned on around me.


I get that! What is it?
AtlantisRises
Umm. I recommend the Seventh son of the Seventh son be taught about effective Contraception at a young age...

:runs to hide:
black dahlia 83
QUOTE(when.i.am.queen. @ Mar 16 2007, 09:15 AM) [snapback]1584256[/snapback]
Noticed anything funny about you lately?


I've always been able to find things, I dont know whether this is because its my partner asking where things are and I'm a woman and I actually open my eyes to find things, tongue.gif
But yeah I've always found things for my family like missing jewelry and stuff fairly quickly

my_psychosis
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Mar 15 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1584374[/snapback]
Umm. I recommend the Seventh son of the Seventh son be taught about effective Contraception at a young age...

:runs to hide:

w00t.gif rofl.gif
glynne64
Wikipedia has quite a bit of info on this....

I happen to be the 7th of 7 children. I'm not from a 7 though. But my dad was the eldest of 3 & Mom the eldest of 4, which is a combination of 7. I don't have a lot of "powers", but I do have the "gift" of premonition especially when it comes to family things. I have premontions basically only when it involves people I love & care about. A real double-edged sword.
Katkandoo_kw
any information on the last (2nd) daughter of a first born? lol and a third born (mom is first dad third)
Katkandoo_kw
QUOTE(glynne64 @ Mar 16 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]1584758[/snapback]
Wikipedia has quite a bit of info on this....

I happen to be the 7th of 7 children. I'm not from a 7 though. But my dad was the eldest of 3 & Mom the eldest of 4, which is a combination of 7. I don't have a lot of "powers", but I do have the "gift" of premonition especially when it comes to family things. I have premontions basically only when it involves people I love & care about. A real double-edged sword.

cool ummm but just warning (I think I've warned this on another thread) our school librarian said we aren't supposed to use wikipedia because anybody could log on and change the information about it...I don't know...just a warning I guess
philipkd
In romanian lore, that is a DHAMPHIR. The word is kinda strange, but it means vampire hunter apparently. Such a son is supposed to be able to resist vampire's spells and kill the vampire with bare hands.



QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jun 14 2005, 03:09 PM) [snapback]675574[/snapback]
I was under the impression that this was supposed to be an old Romanian gypsy story.

Lost Souls
dammit what about the 1st child of the first child?? eek. sad.gif lol
Tejina: Ex Arctic Elfie
QUOTE(Lost Souls @ May 9 2007, 02:59 AM) [snapback]1666481[/snapback]
dammit what about the 1st child of the first child?? eek. sad.gif lol

No kidding...

Oh wait.. I'm not the first...

I'm the first born of a second born... But I have two older cousins. Then there's my brother and my aunt's two kids... and my other Uncle's suposed one child...

Man.. I'm the middle of the pack! WAI

Though man... this thread was soooooooo not something to read right before bed.
captain pish
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ Jun 15 2005, 04:05 PM) [snapback]678216[/snapback]
The medium / Psychic Gordon Smith is the 7th son of a 7th son.....In Ireland they are reknowned for having healing powers


Yeah correct! My Mrs has a couple of his books,one of wich he says that his powers are related to him being the 7th son of a 7th son. I am a VERY VERY VERY sceptical person when it comes to psychics and as a rule think that they are all 100% fraudulent and prey on vunerable people making them lower than whale s**t. The only guy to ever make me ponder the idea is Gordon Smith. I saw him meet with a couple who were specifically asked by gordon not to give a name or any detail whatsoever when they book a session, just to turn up at a specific time. He then proceeded to TELL (not fish for info like most psychics) the couple evrey last detail of thier sons death (in a car crash) even the road he died on and what date. He told them thier sons name and described how he had moved objects in the house to let them know of his prescence. During all this the parents didnt give any information at all, they just sobbed. Afterwards they said Gordon was 100% accurate with everything. Gordon had described a picture in the house that kept being moved and other objects that he wouldnt know existed in the house, never pausing or asking questions or fishing for info.

However this was on TV and they could have been actors so im still not convinced he is 100% for real, to prove that he was genuine he'd have to do it for me and not ask a single question or fish. Another thing with Gordon is that like most psychics he does tours that ALWAYS sell out and makes lots of money from this "talent". Hmmmmmm.
Lost Souls
well im the first child of a first child. that shuould mean something people!!! aaahh1!!!!!
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