The sphinx appears in other cultures other than egypt
consider the huge winged sphinx's of assyria
the ones with the bearded human face



this picture of a sphinx dates from 2500bce
you'll notice it has the same face as the other two characters
the other two are the gods enki and enlil
enlil (the senior) sits on a box with the rudder.
So you have an image of an ocean going boat (when they didn't exist) and a sphinx with the face of its master Enlil.
When enlil fell from power in approx 3200bce he was no longer worhsipped a s a god. By the time babylon rose in 2000bce Enki became Ea and Enlil was forgotten.
However Enlil and Enki unlike the egyptian pantheon could never have been individuals
thats because the name enki and enlil are in fact titles
EN-KI = lord of the earth
EN-LIL = lord or the sky/air
So Enlil and Enki could have been titles from anytime before 3200bce
As usual of course when a god falls from grace his legacy is obliterated
his names is struck from carvings
his prayers are no longer said in temples
his face is cut from monuments

The Giza Sphinx may originally have carried the face of Enlil......

Nice find

It's common knowledge that the Sphynx in Egypt is named after the Sphynx of Greek legend. The legend of the Sphynx has never been thought (by people who study mythology) to originate in Egypt.

It's thought that the word 'sphinx' is a corruption of the Egyptian phrase 'sheshep-ankh' - The Living Image Of...

There's a lot of archaeoligical evidence that the Great Sphinx of Giza was actually built in the 4th Dynasty (about 2500BC), but not necessarily by Khafre. Some have suggested Khufu and even Djedefre. The bulk of the archaeological evidence, though, points to Khafre (a statue of Khafre was found in the Valley Temple close to the Sphinx and 4th Dynasty pottery has been found in the Sphinx Enclosure).

I still reckon it was aliens, though...

heh heh

Isn't the sphinx or the body atleast from around 10 000 Bc? Back then it was pointed directly to a lionesk constellation. The pharaohs head being carved out from the original head, which some believe was the head of a lion, during egyptian time.
In any case, if the sphinx is from around 10 000 BC it origins is in egypt, it would be impossible to prove its' head was anything else than human. The pharaoh might just have changed the face.

er if u r mentioning who i think ur mentioning
then that idea is hogwash......

its just something I heard some time ago. I have no idéa who im mentioning, hence the ? in my post.

Out of curiousity, what is the website/book/source of this information?
I want to know more.

Unlikely seeing as the sphinx predates Greek legends
rememeber the oldest greek legend of them all
Atlantis
where did that information come from
The ancient greeks were always claiming to be bigger and brighter by linking their antics to other great civilisations
doesn't make them true

You're source is a guy called Graham Hancock
he first put forward the 10,000bce date in his book fingerpaints of the gods
he was wrong
the idea that the sphinx predates egypt isn't original
The egyptians said it did
Which means that they didn't build it

Then you'll have to do your own research.
this hasn't been cut and paste from anywhere on the net
its my own research
and its 100 % factual
Or you could go read the guest articles at Robert Schoch's site
on monday

Fits quite nicely with the rest of my theory doesn't it

There are still arguments raging over whether or not erosion on the Sphinx's body could have occured within the traditional time frame, or whether it indicates an earlier date. This evidence is often ceased upon by those who think it dates to 10,000bce.

However, the African Humid Period, during which the Sahara was a savannah and frequent rains fell over Egypt, only ended, rather abruptly, around 3,000-3,500bce.

So it may only need to be a 1,000 or so years older than traditionally thought in order to explain the erosion as a result of frequent rainfall......

It fits in very well

There are tombs at Giza that are reliably dated to the 4th Dynasty (i.e. it says so on them..lol) that show the same weathering patterns as the Sphinx and its enclosure.

So about 3500bce then
you remember that i said once that the expansion period was between 3200bce and 3900bce.
hmmmm
getting better and better
Do you want to tell Zahi or shall I
can't wait for the Iraqi's to demand their statue back as well
I'd love to see his reaction to that

Doesn't matter who came first. It's probably because the Greeks were better at PR that it happened. Whether or not the Sphynx was there before them (and yes, I fully believe it was) it was not called a sphynx in Egypt, but rather that is what it became known as due to its similarities to the greek mythological beasti.

It was called a sphinx in sumeria before egypt existed
nuff said

only sumeria?
be a bit easy to close case if they made the sphinx...

err
thats what i've been doing with my research ROSWELL
Closing the case
Not cos i'm fascinated by egyptology per se,
but I'm sick of hearing how the aliens did it

Which is why I said arguments are still raging

And besides, I once had my name above the door of an 18th century pub. Doesn't mean I built it

That particular argument Merc is a fallacious one
it didn't pan out
Mark Lehner got an eductaion over that one.
In Geology
The tombs are made from a different kind of rock and the weathering patterns were markedly different.

ah, I haven't heard of any ancient egyptians claming the sphinx predates their civilization, when did they say this?
They might have forgotten they ever built it depending on which era this statement came from.

That's a cop-out... Why would somebody build a tomb, be interred there and then have somebody else's name on it?

The tombs are from the 4th Dynasty, end of story.

The tombs contained 4th dynasty burials Doesn't mean they weren't built earlier and refurbished at a later date. And besides, as Marduk says, part of the controversy over this issue is whether or not they are actually made of the same limestone.

Depending on which tombs we're talking about of course!

And, last but probably not least, if 2 monuments display similar (but obvioulsy not identical) erosion patterns it suggests that they may date from the same period. But it doesn't prove it

just means they may have eroded the same way

If you're referring to the tomb of Debehen, then you're right. It was cut from Member III limestone, as opposed to Member II for the body of the Sphinx and its enclosure. However, I'm sure I'm thinking of another tomb at Giza cut from the same layer as the Sphinx body. I also recall that Jon Bodsworth took a photo very close to the Sphinx of a 4th Dynasty tomb in the heavily-eroded Member II layer.

It has also to be remembered that the Member II layer is prone to erosion from groundwater seepage and, in the years since it has been permanently excavated, the polluted atmosphere of modern Cairo.

Of course, it's always possible that the Sphinx was only restored in the 4th Dynasty and the potsherds were left behind by the restorers and tombs were cut at that time, but given the Ancient Egyptian obsession with making their tombs look grand, don't you think that they would have 'tidied up' the Sphinx enclosure and surrounding area instead of leaving it all eroded. That's if it had been like that since x,000 BC?

Then we may as well throw all of the research done over the past 200 years away, because you've sussed it all out in one paragraph...

Best not tell Zahi Hawass then

or hancock
will deffo p*** him off
lol

aha
thats cool
If you knew what I know about that particular subject you'd realise that you were right in more ways than one

pm me then

Done