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LucidElement
ive read in so many books, that its rained frogs, and fish, and whatever else... but is it true.. i mean in so many unexplained books they always have a chapter or so on it... what is your take guys?
Falco Rex
Wrong section Lucid! This should be in Crypto.. tongue.gif
This is one of the few areas of the paranormal even mainstream science recognizes as existing, so I really don't have a belief problem with it..
The official explanations seem very weak to me though..
Essan
Interestingly, although recogonised as a real phenomena, and usually explained as a result of tornadic activity , meteorologists still argue about these type of events.

Part of the problem is that no-one has ever witnessed a tornado/waterspout picking up the fish, toads, whatever that it subsequently drops in a storm. And many experts disagree as to whether a tornado/waterspout would even be capable of doing so, let alone drop them, apparently unharmed, many miles away.

So there is still a paranormal element to it.

You might be interested in a debate - involving some professional meteorologists, as well as interested amateurs - that we had about it on Ukweatherworld last year (warning: it did get a bit heated at times!) original.gif
Xoisk el Soņador
That would be an sight of insanity, but it sure would open up a lot of freedom for paranormal activity.
KevinM
Personally in most cases I think the tornado theory is a perfectly good explanation. It fits with in known scientific models and doesn't stretch credibility to far. Considerably more interesting(in my oppinion) is those cases that occur inside a building. Aside from instances of every thing from blood to feces there are cases where it has rained in doors(normal water but with out plumbing problems to explain it), stones have fallen from the ceiling(typically as they also pelt the outside of the house) and at its most dramatic fires start spontaneously. Its a subsect of poltergeist phenomenon thats probably the best indicator such activity is spiritual in nature instead of psychic.
LucidElement
interesting....

i posted it here because its definitly paranormal lol..
Shakezulah
I agree with the others, the tornado or such picking them up is a very reasonable theory. The cases that are very seemingly paranormal though, are much harder to explain. I dont think people would think that raining indoors is anything other than paranormal activity. Most that ive heard about it raining frogs or fish and whatnot have been explained easily. I have not heard too many other cases like KevinM mentioned above, but they certainly are very strange.
babayagafamiliar
One other thing too- Why does blood rain instead of a whole cow (IF a cow could be transported by a whirlwind, and is the source of the blood). I can see the raining frogs being sifted away from a pond, light and everything, but blood???
Skriker
Well, I guess it could be either. Have all of them happened where tornados and such were common, or was it in random places? Oh, and a cow could be transported by a whirlwind, my mom got picked up in a shed once.
Falco Rex
That's the problem not all of them do happen where whirlwinds are common..Some are easily explained by winds, like when Britain received falls of sand from the sahara; but some are downright bizarre..
Like rains of Muscle tissue..Or the aforementioned blood..
Or the fall of luminous green snow in California. How about the rain of Blue fire in Germany?Or the fall of Oak leaves in Scotland..Why just Oak leaves?
Some cases just go beyond the norm when this phenomenon occurs and one simple explanation just doesn't fit every case..
KevinM
A host of bizzare things have been found: blood, feces, urine, beer, V 8 juice (the father of the family was violently allergic to tomato products).
Caesar
I've always woundered about raining fish,rocks and other weired stuff. I think most are nonparanmormal though here are some links for ya thumbsup.gif

news.bbc.co.uk

www.bbc.co.uk

prairieghosts
Falco Rex
For the most part I'd agree, but as I said some are just too strange, and why only one kind of animal/object every time?
It would help if I knew more about the physics of a whirlwind/waterspout..Do they maybe seperate things by weight and mass? That might account for it..
343 Guilty Spark
I've heard of huge one ton chunks of ice falling from the sky, would this be to heavy for a whirlwind to carry and transport for mile. Some of these chunks have fallen from totally clear skies and long before aeroplanes were invented.
Falco Rex
Don't quote me as an expert, but I believe in those specific instances it had something to do with ice-crystals in the atmosphere joining together until they have gained enough mass to "Fall"..And probably they could pick up more water to freeze to it on the way down, making even larger by the time it lands..
343 Guilty Spark
That explanation makes as good a sense than any thanks Falco original.gif
Skriker
Yeah, that could explain the ice, but not frogs and whatnot.
LucidElement
i think it is simple as the air lifts when it rains it picks up objects and they fall.. what was the movie called again, when it just rains mad frogs, and that one guys nose breaks because a frog fell on it.
Essan
QUOTE(Skriker @ Jun 19 2005, 12:57 AM)
Well, I guess it could be either. Have all of them happened where tornados and such were common, or was it in random places?
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I don't know about the US, but most documented cases in the UK have occurred when conditions were right for tornados to form, though in no cases have tornados actually been seen in the area where the falls occurred.

It remains the best scientific explanation, but is nonetheless unproven.
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