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mercuryrapids
Texan's UFO video thought to be hoax

It's a subscription service, so I'll paste the highlights of the text here... if they want to sue, they have my email addy..lol

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...Bessent finally agreed to submit his original video and camera for testing at Village Labs in north Phoenix. Owner Jim Dilettoso has more than 25 years' experience dissecting unexplained videos and photographs.

Running the video through a vectorscope and waveform monitor reveals unusual characteristics in a number of technical indicators. The black level, white level, “pedestal”, “back porch” and “blanking pulse” are markers that can read quality of a video as well as help determine whether a clip has been altered from the original.

Liljegren finds inconsistent black levels throughout the video. “When that happens, it raises more questions. I wish I could have the original tape front to back.”
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Dilettoso then began looking at the images on the video itself. “First of all, if it's in auto focus [as Bessent told us several times], why is there no continual adjustment that's going on even when the camera is moving?”

Then there's the noise. Grainy video in most, but not all of the picture. Dilettoso increases the contrast on the tape and a couple of things become apparent. “Out here where these little bushes and things are, it's very grainy. It's everywhere in the entire picture except one place.” He points at the area where the light pattern is. “Right there.”

Dilettoso finds that the area of the sky where the lights appear is much more uniformly black than the rest of the image. “The center object is very different from the outer objects,” he says. “I've never had the opportunity to hold a camera in my hands where we could get a distinct white ball here, particularly one that would fly through and land there, where the outer objects aren't going to bloom and bleed over into the others.”

Dilettoso gives us one final video indicator of a hoax: the date and Web site characters Bessent added to the tape. The color and shadowing are remarkably similar to several of the mystery lights.
xHUNTERx
That sucks disgust.gif
Mark47
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Dilettoso then began looking at the images on the video itself. “First of all, if it's in auto focus [as Bessent told us several times], why is there no continual adjustment that's going on even when the camera is moving?”


Because it is at infinity.

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Dilettoso finds that the area of the sky where the lights appear is much more uniformly black than the rest of the image. “The center object is very different from the outer objects,” he says.


Same thing happened in my photographs, when there is no light and only the moon the black background looks very grainy, when there is a light present, the background is fine.

Moon by itself: course background

Light plus moon: smooth background

Therefore his observation actually proves authenticity as no one that is faking it is going to know to do that now are they?
Xoisk el Soñador
just another hoax...sad.gif
Mark47
everything is a hoax, you dont exist, you only think you do, you are a hoax created by ronald mcdonald.
Dog_Boy
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Same thing happened in my photographs, when there is no light and only the moon the black background looks very grainy, when there is a light present, the background is fine


What he is saying is that the sky in that area is less pixelated that normal.

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much more uniformly black than the rest of the image

Mark47
where exactly does he say pixelated?
mercuryrapids
The way I interpret it is that Dilettoso is saying that the area around the 'UFO' is too evenly black for such a bright light source. If you look at a bright light source at night from a distance, the area around it is also illuminated due to our atmosphere. Dilettoso is saying that that doesn't seem to be the case with the 'UFO' footage, suggesting that it was superimposed at a later date.
Dog_Boy
QUOTE(Mark47 @ Jun 20 2005, 11:57 AM)
where exactly does he say pixelated?
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Sorry I won't bother any more.

My opinion? The expert knows what he's talking about and it seems that there are more chances of it being a lie, hoxe, fabrication, etc that a real thing in the sky over the mountain.

Shame but it just seems we have to question these things because we have people around who do these things.

Mark47
QUOTE(Dog_Boy @ Jun 20 2005, 10:43 PM)
QUOTE(Mark47 @ Jun 20 2005, 11:57 AM)
where exactly does he say pixelated?
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Sorry I won't bother any more.

My opinion? The expert knows what he's talking about and it seems that there are more chances of it being a lie, hoxe, fabrication, etc that a real thing in the sky over the mountain.

Shame but it just seems we have to question these things because we have people around who do these things.
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Dilettoso finds that the area of the sky where the lights appear is much more uniformly black than the rest of the image.


He doesnt say pixelated does he? His statement you could apply to the photographs I presented correct? One photograph is different to the other, it is the same in all photograhs I have taken where there is the moon only. Pixelated or not pixelated it makes no difference.
"Experts" make mistakes all the time. some scientists believe in the big bang, others believe it is an idiotic idea, some believe in black holes, while others believe they are an idiotic idea, and thats their opinion not mine, so dont rely on "experts".
If an "expert" has never seen a light in the sky before and the effect it has on the background then how can they give an informed opinion?
Those blur photographs I took? Every scientist I asked what the outcome was got it WRONG. I was the only one the correctly predicted the outcome.
How many doctors get sued each year for malpractice? What is the sound of one thalidomide clapping?
Dog_Boy
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What is the sound of one thalidomide clapping?


For god sake is nothing outside of the realms of decency when your trying to prove yourself right all the time? Yes yes I know you are going to say "Its to point out experts het it wrong" But thats all you had to say! Not make a joke out of it!!

got any cancer jokes? Couple of starving millions quips to get the day going?

Like I said I give up, and that with you! Not the subject just you!
mercuryrapids
It's a hoax. Live with it..
Mark47
its not deal with it.
mercuryrapids
How do you know it's not a hoax? Evidence has already been provided suggesting that it is not a genuine piece of footage (i.e. the 'UFO' was superimposed). Do you have any way to prove that it is genuine?

Thought not...

p.s.

I agree with Dog Boy, your thalidomide comment was totally unnecessary and really shows what a lowdown, nasty piece of work you really are... sad.gif
Mark47
QUOTE(mercuryrapids @ Jun 21 2005, 01:37 AM)
How do you know it's not a hoax? Evidence has already been provided suggesting that it is not a genuine piece of footage (i.e. the 'UFO' was superimposed). Do you have any way to prove that it is genuine?

Thought not...

p.s.

I agree with Dog Boy, your thalidomide comment was totally unnecessary and really shows what a lowdown, nasty piece of work you really are...  sad.gif
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It wasnt meant as a joke, it was taken from a piece I wrote highlighting the atrocities of science and in the context was to accentuate the careless way that science ignores the human element. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. I used a clip of a a thalidomide victim to the sound of silence so it was meant to highlight the helplessness of victims that no one hears.

I did you evidence, i pointed out an error in the persons analysis of the background sky. as stated earlier you can take any film and make stories up about it, and in this case a number of his comments are wrong.
mercuryrapids
I never said I thought you were making a joke, just an insulting and ill-thought comment.

Your examples looked nothing like the UFO footage. Also, for your argument to stand, there would have had to have been a strong light source in the sky as well as the 'UFOs'. There wasn't.

I explained my reasoning a little earlier in the thread, but it obviously got lost because of the bickering you seem to cause with your ill-judged remarks.

For what it's worth, here's what I said:

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The way I interpret it is that Dilettoso is saying that the area around the 'UFO' is too evenly black for such a bright light source. If you look at a bright light source at night from a distance, the area around it is also illuminated due to our atmosphere. Dilettoso is saying that that doesn't seem to be the case with the 'UFO' footage, suggesting that it was superimposed at a later date.
leadbelly
OK, Mark

I'm going to step back here, and take your side and look at it.
In the beginning, I took frame grabs off the internet. I was struck by one thing
the most- the second object emerged from the first. I though long and hard.
It is in the literature. People have reported merging objects. But this was
subtle, and I had to consider camera movement, even though Bessent mentioned a tripod.

If I put those images up, they might amount to no more than an impression, on my part. However, I was wishing I knew his camera model, at least. Now it turns out he has a Sony, and of course, he has Night Shot infrared enhancement.
This adds photons 'down' to 1200 nm. Optical is 380 to 780 nm.
I'll put an example of the night vision-type green effect, below.

That accounts for the change of the color of the bushes, near the end of the original internet video. He switched on the infrared, which moves an internal
blue filter aside, to allow infrared to strike the charged coupling receiver.
This mode is tricky, and may lead to some blur, so you need to hold it steady.

Anyway, Brian B. has done his homework, and called for independent analysis.
I am rather stopped in my tracks, because I am confronted by a better quality
image he now provides. And there is the second object, not only emerging out of the first, but emerging after the first one goes through bizzare motions.

The initial object, at one point, has several (perhaps six) projections internally.
There is a core section in the haze that vibrates, then 'grows' a crown of small
projections. It re-establishes it original condition, but then bifurcates, almost.

It looks like a ><. But, this reminds me of other things, like a Z-pinch.
I am not going to elaborate on that, or another idea that is somewhat related,
but to think that this man and his team thought this up puzzles me.
Unless it is just a coincidence. Which it may still be, but the odds are more in his camp now.

Z-pinch


Please watch the video provided by his film analyst. It should be saved to disk.
I tried to provide frame examples, but they do a disservice to the original.
Below is an example from the internet video, of night mode green, which is IR.


Enhanced Video Clip


Bessent's UFO Theater
Mark47
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I never said I thought you were making a joke, just an insulting and ill-thought comment.


be man enough to admit to making an error in judgement and I may take you seriously, until then you are simply a sore loser flogging a dead horse, twisting things around in your head to make them mean whatever you want them to mean.
Mark47
whether it is fake or not really isnt that relevant. Why should people be so concerned to want to prove that it is fake? It really makes no difference until someone lands, the real reason why people want to prove it is fake is because they dont want to appear gullible, and because they dont want anyone else to gain satisfaction from a discovery, so they want to try to destroy their hope.
If it is fake so what who cares nice job, good laugh. Seems there are too many tom cruises about that cant take a joke.
leadbelly
Mark,

It is important for researchers, in the civilian capacity, to study this film.
If nothing else, the whole issue of this phenomena could augment science.
Maybe someone will conceive an experiment, or a project, that may bear fruit.
Of course, scientists push the envelope everyday. But if this is the start of something, I can think of several historic reasons why it shoud occur within the next decade. If nothing happens, then that is not to be unexpected, but I would be floored if something did.


There are some related issues I wanted to mention, before this film is dustbinned.
Maybe someone in Hollywood will offer him some money. It would not be the first time.

But, there is a town 50 miles west of Phoenix. And, the largest U.S. nuclear power generating facility is located there, in Palo Verde. On June 9, 2004, there was a control failure. The plant was shut down, but came back online a week later. On June 14, two Palo Verde power supply substations exploded, in Phoenix. The unit was entirely shut down, and this caused power issues that summer.

There were several hundred reports of strange lights in the region, and some near the station. Most were between Palo Verde and Phoenix. There is the Goldwater bombing range in that area, but two USAF bases initially denied activities on June 14. Parachutes and standard flares are not ruled out, but videos from that night, and the other two, show no parachutes or smoke. Spectra can identify flares, no mention though.

I want to present two videos, and then a third. And then make a leap to an outside
speculation. The first shows distant lights, southwest of Phoenix. The second is in north Phoenix, and the third in west Phoenix, near the location of the Bessent video objects.

Location of three video light events


It is probably best to r-click and save these.

Video 1

Video 2 "It's Over A Fu**ing House!"

The third video seems to show lights converging. This was a twenty minute video.
This clip shows what I guess is a torus shaped object, into which, and out of which
other objects pass. I wonder if it is the dreaded portal type, which scientists have some objections to, according to the standard model. I'll pass, for now. But here
is a representation, giving my initial judgement. It connects to another image captured by a UFO researcher, who got a rather unusual picture, from a helicopter, over a hot spot for UFOs in New York, circa 1980s.

This all relates to the Brian Bessent film, and its second object to appear.

UFOS and Possible Portal Type Events


I perceive this may be a torus, seen on edge. Objects pop in and out. The object can be said to be in the general vicinity of the Bessent ufos.

(I had to correct this link, because I put the wrong one)

Video 3- July 4, 2004
Mark47
When Columbus set sail there was no proof that the earth was round, there was only the intellligence that dictated it must be, and it was that intelligence that allowed theory to be put into practice. At the same time most of the population doubted because they were afraid, not of falling off the edge of the world but afraid of being outcast, of being the odd ones out that believed in the "silly" idea, just as today people that say they are abducted by aliens are mocked and thought of as nuts, they are socially outcast. They are outcast not because the idea is impossible or even implausable, but because there is no proof. Its just the same as if you were to catch a big fish but you let it go. There is no reason why you couldnt and there is no reason why you should lie, but because you have no proof, it ALLOWS people to mock you, it goves people the POWER to be able to mock you because you have no way to defend yourself because you have no proof.
Because you have no "proof" you caught the fish, people can say whatever they like and get away with, so many people use it as an opportunity to make themselves feel superior by making you the outcast. Its the same with UFOs, there is nothing illogical about them, it should be obvious to most people that they exist but because there isnt "proof" it ALLOWS people to make fun of those that do beleive. So while there is no "proof" people will continue to say they are a hoax for no other reason than they know they can get away with. Many people that say they dont believe, are lying but are too afraid of public opinion to say anything.
So there is little point in attempting to prove them either way but instead like Columbus go in the direction AS IF they are real, rather than having to prove they are real first.
any advanced technology they have, they got by building it themselves, so why should we expect to be any different? So there is no real reason to pander to the sceptics as they are just paranoid and no matter what you say or do, they will never believe until one actually lands and they see it for themselves.
leadbelly
I have just e-mailed a researcher in Australia, who is connected to a group
trying to get to the bottom of the Bessent film. They agree that his first two films
were shams. I have put forth my ideas, and hope to have a response.

They have dispensed with him, but I am trying to get them to give one last opinion,
before some final judgement is passed. While I agree that there are some
'flat earth types' still around, they must be losing ground. If for nothing else,
the sheer grandeur of the universe is being revealed. Yes, we might make a giant leap someday, but it better happen soon.

Eagle Nebula- Hubble Space Telescope and a Comparison in Infrared.
Strong UV blowtorches a column of gas. Possible new planets may be forming inside.
(just overlook my previous caption on the page)

http://www.geocities.com/radio_flux53/NewS...l?1097616978843


A wider angle view of the Eagle Nebula, from Arizona (Kitt Peak)-

Hot Stars Produce Winds Of Strong Ultraviolet Energy, Opening the Nebula
Mark47
This year I garauntee. The funny thing is that you could have 99% of people actually believing but they all say they dont because they think no one else will go along with them. I think people expect that if something is genuine then there will be some telltale "neon sign" saying geniune, so when that isnt there they are sceptical. The problem is there isnt a neon sign, they didnt believe the mexican air force so who will they believe?
mercuryrapids
QUOTE(Mark47 @ Jun 21 2005, 02:11 AM)
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I never said I thought you were making a joke, just an insulting and ill-thought comment.


be man enough to admit to making an error in judgement and I may take you seriously, until then you are simply a sore loser flogging a dead horse, twisting things around in your head to make them mean whatever you want them to mean.
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Eh? Are you being serious? Your more unstable than I thought!
mercuryrapids
QUOTE(Mark47 @ Jun 21 2005, 02:25 AM)
whether it is fake or not really isnt that relevant. Why should people be so concerned to want to prove that it is fake? It really makes no difference until someone lands, the real reason why people want to prove it is fake is because they dont want to appear gullible, and because they dont want anyone else to gain satisfaction from a discovery, so they want to try to destroy their hope.
  If it is fake so what who cares nice job, good laugh. Seems there are too many tom cruises about that cant take a joke.
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Nice back-pedalling..


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