My mum went on a coach trip to Skegness yesterday (Sunday 19th June) and she said that on the way back, she noticed a large crop formation near the town. She said it was made up of lots of small circles and 'looked lovely' (lol).

Anyway when she told me about it, her first reaction was 'aliens have landed!' lol

Anybody know if this was a genuine mystery pattern or a publicity stunt?

p.s.

I wasn't sure where to post this. What category do crop patterns come under? lol

Do we have a forum for Ag College pranks and Modern Art?

This is what my mum saw, found it on CropCircleConnector.com

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2005/bu...rwell2005a.html

mercuryrapids, This crop Circle phenomena is a genuine mystery!

I think crop circles are the work of bored computer nerds who have nothing better to do......(myself being a computer nerd, no offense intended) Some are actual mysteries, but witht he advent of PhotoShop, it's gotten way out of hand.
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Infact, the first time I ever heared of them was when I was 10 years old. Last year I went to a place called Wiltshire (I think that is what it is called) A place to near Stone Henge is! This area of England is said to have strong energy belts to which supposedly attracts UFO's!

The phenomena of Crop Circles is simply this: They are HUGE complex , mathematical patterns/ formations made by manipulating crops in such a way that would flatten them. When these crops are flattened, they reflect different light/ shadings from a bird's eye view - determined upon the direction of which the crops are flattened in a formation! The different light reflections from the way the crops are flattened create the image of the pattern.

The formations themselves are are very unique in terms of their design!! The guide that gave me a tour last year told us all that every crop circle is designed to convey a different meaning.. the meanings behind each formation is what researchers now are trying to solve actually .. There is one formation for example that looks like three worms made up by 3-5 circles increasing in sizes from head to tail as they seem to be circulating around a central large circle.. this is quite hard to describe as it is complex.. anyway.. this one portrays the meaning of the way 'life is formed' .. another formation would set a different meaning ..

The way these Crop Circles are formed is what makes me really interested in them.. each individual crop is flattened completly in the formation .. Now .. when you get a piece of crop and bend it even slghtly, it would 'SNAP'! .. The crops in every formation are bent to 90 degrees angles and even more depending on the formation! However.. every single crop has NOT snapped.. The cops are bent to such an acute angle that normally they would snap ... but they dont! scientists have examined these crops in the laboratory to see why they never snap at such angles in the crop formations.. I read somewhere that the Cells in the crop bends have become 'elongated' which has allowed the crop to bend at such acute angles whilst not snapping! The explanation for how these cells can become elongated in every single blade of crop is a huge mystery revolving around this crop circle phenomena!

What makes this even more bizzare, is that the time taken for these huuuge mathematical formations to be made is friggin short!! My guide told us that she was flying in a heli-copter - circling a small area near a motor way looking at he crop fields, and after the second time around the field (same area they just flew over 5 minutes ago) had a fresh new Crop circle! and it took less than 5 minutes to make!! and this formation was huuuuge!!! The design is like the most complex she ever saw!! She showed the group the photo of the crop circle, and everyone was like !!! Crazzy!! This crop circle was posted on the internet along time ago so I will look for it for all you to see!!

LilaBurrows.. No offense but I stood in a few crop circles already .. and they are as complex as the ones you think are created by a computer program ..

Crop circles are easy to make, the more you make the easier it get to make more complex designs, sure there are a few who claim that aliens are communicating with us by flattening fields of wheat, not a very practical form of communication.
Most, if not all are made by people, does that make them any less genuine? No, I dont think so, are they a mystery, not really, for some people sure, but then again some people honestly believe humans havent walked on the moon.

By the way, I don't think crop patterns are made by aliens or whatever. I think there may be a natural epxlanation for the simple circles, but I think the complex ones are completely man-made. And brilliant works of art they are too. Nice little earners for farmers too, charging a fiver a head (for example) so peeps can go have a closer look, despite their protestations that the patterns cost them thousands in lost crops.



what I do find mysterious is that there must be a lot of these crop circle makers running up and down the country creating these fantastic designs and then melting away into the population (apart from the two old fogeys that started it all...lol)

can I man make a complex crop circle in less than 5 minutes? .. No ..

Can a man make a complex crop formation by elongating cells of each individual crop so they all flatten out to form a pattern in LESS THAN 5 MINUTES?!? Have you even read what I said people? Your ignoring the facts.. pitty you all havent even visited these formations, taken your own samples, examined them to have a good enough position to even make a judgement ! I'll get a source that discusses scientiffic evidence that crop circles (the real ones) are not created by man! This is so irritating when You know whats true and others are macking a mockery out of it!!!

I have to admit that when somebody says that they have been to a field with no crop circle, then returned a very short time later and one's there, it does get my mystery gland going..lol

There was one not long ago where a pilor flew over a field with no crop pattern, then an hour later he flew back and -bang- bloody great crop formation.

It's all hearsay, of course. One person's word and all that... Still, if true, it definitely adds to the mystery.

I have no doubts at all that the majority of crop circles are man made.

However, I do remember going on a Crop Circle site and communicating with a guy who claimed to be a circle maker. He admitted to me that some of the more complex ones would take months to make, each arc taking around an hour, yet these circles appear overnight.

Having said that I get angry when everyone assumes that every paranormal event is caused by visitors from Outer Space. I believe in life on other planets and who knows, maybe we have been visited from there. But too often we miss the point that there could be life closer to home, on a different spectrum, different dimension, or whatever.

I think there is a point to the circles. What it is I don't know, maybe when the right time comes someone will unravel the code.

I've always been amazed that no one asks the US Government different questions. They always give the same pat answer. "There is no evidence that any crafts are visiting our planet from outer space", or words to that effect. They're not saying UFO's don't exist, just that they're not ET.

Am I right in saying crop circles are mainly a UK phenomenon. Or do they appear in the US and elsewhere? Just curious.

"He admitted to me that some of the more complex ones would take months to make, each arc taking around an hour, yet these circles appear overnight." My point exactly!!
nacho1560 .. Yes You are rite !

Crop patterns appear all over the world, nacho, but they seem most common in Southern England.

Pinowawa, don't let it get you down, mate.

I've just joined today, found this site by accident and must say, very impressive.

I have an interest in almost all things paranormal but I am not an expert in any of them, by any means.

I do remember watching a tv programme a while back that showed how men could form circles by using ropes and bits of wood. But the wheat was broken and damaged.

Apparantly genuine circles (i.e. not man made) are completely different. The crops are not damaged but bent as if by some non-physical force so that all the wheat bent in the same directions outward. I can't see how a group of men, desperate to get finished before they are found in action, sometimes working with torchlight and crude tools, could ensure the crop wasn't damaged.

Remember also reading a story told by campers. They were camping in the countryside with the farmer's permission. They slept in tents and heard nothing. Next morning a beautiful crop circle formation was in the field next to them and they insist there was nothing the day before.

However .. keep more an open mind to how they are really created! Man made ones - crops are flattened out which breaks the stalks of the individual crops .. real crop circles are made when the cells of each crop are elongated somehow to allow them to bend acute angles in an instand flash .. yes there is an element of evidence to support the theory that Crop circles are created not by any machine known to man : there have been reports of Silicon or some other chemical found on the crops that were flattened out over night .. including the one that my tour guide saw after 5 minutes in appearence .. these remaning chemicals could only have been left behind from a huge instand - very high electro magnetic heat emission! fresh crop circles such as the one which I went to were 'warm' .. the photos I took had orb like things in them .. and some digital cameras malfunctioned when I went on the tour to these 'fresh' real crop circles in Wiltshire.. Keep an open mind!!!!!

nacho1560 Thank You ! lol .. I get easily frustrated when it comes to these topics I have a lot of info on.

The UK seems to be the home of crop circles.

For reasons unknown, there are more crop circles reported in the UK every year than the rest of the world combined.

And, again for reasons unknown, the vast majority of them appear in Wiltshire.

Anyone else rember the film taken in 1996 showing 4 "orbs" flying over the crops and a crop circle appearing in a few seconds under them ??

http://www.patrickwilson.com/Cropcir.html

Yeah, the Oliver's Castle video. It's thought to be a hoax video created by a man who worked for a video production company.

Good looking effect, though

I'm more inclined toward the vortex theory. Vortexes are created in the atmosphere. I saw a documentary once on TV in which they discussed this theory with researchers (sorry, can't remember their names. it was a few years ago). In controlled experiments they were able to create mini vortexes that mimiced earth's natural ones, and these mini vortexes did indeed create mini "crop" circles. Often they formed very intricate patterns, with circles overlapping, etc. Just think about the intricate patterns nature forms in frost on a window, or the symmetrical patterns in a snowflake. Nature is quite capable of creating intricate patterns. "Crop" circles don't limit themselves to grasses either. They also often appear in the forest, where trees will be flattened in circular patterns. It just happens that they aren't as noticable as those formed in fields.

Most Crop circles are man made but those always look scruffy, in the real ones the crop is bent but the manmade ones are snapped and broken. There's another story of some hoaxers making a circle one night, but it was too complex and they didn't finish it. When they returned the next day to finish it, there was an exact copy of the circle they were trying to make in the other corner of the field. It wasn't there when they left because that was the way they walked when they left the field

You heard a person say this, right? You didnt witness it yourself, which makes it hearsay, and didnt you say this person was some kind of crop circle guide, wouldnt addning to the "mystery" make them earn more money on their thing?



I have read interviews and watched documentaries about people who make complex figures in just a few hours, if you know what you are doing and have a few mates with you who also know what they are doing it doesnt take very long to make complex figures.



Its not that hard to bend the straws so they dont brake when you make a crop circle, I have seen it being done myself and I have friend who have done it.

A question for you circle believers, for the lack of a better name. How do you explain that crop circles that people claim to have made and documented making are "declared" real by the so-called experts in the field. What makes a crop circle real as you say if the "experts" cant tell a circle is man made or not?

When hoaxers use boards to flatten the crop, it doesn't get bent, it get's snapped. Also in some of the formations the crop is woven together and not just laid flat on the ground. If they are all fake, then what about the formation that appeared in broad daylight in a field adjascent on Stonehenge in about an hour, this was witnessed by a retired RAF pilot who flew over the field, nothing there, flew back over it an hour later and it was there. This was a formation made up of 194 circle and a diameter of over 500 feet.

I do or i think we are talking about the same thing; i seen a doc- on history channel that showed the orbs over crop circle's i think they were in London, is that what you are talking about.

I would like to just say; how could a person make those circles so fast when the design's are so complex, i am not sure it's but it must be something more than just a hoax

It was done by humans for sure. Some few could be come from flying spaceship or UFO, but this all complex crop pattern are a hoax. We all saw it on Discovery Channel. They showed it to us that people who have done this were being videotaped without their knowledge.