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scoobysnack
Anyone heard of Bohemian Grove? This is a club that decides what will be in the headlines in the comming year. It's so secret, you as the average citezen are not supposed to know about it. Even when journalists sneek in to get the scoop, it never gets past the editor because the heads of major media are also members. Just like Bilderberg which is another version where the future is discussed in secret and information talked about behind closed doors doesn't match what is told to the public. The bohemians will be meeting this July again as they meet every year in front of a three story carved owl.

Here is a link from F.A.I.R. (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting) it's a must read!

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1489

Inside Bohemian Grove
The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read


Here's a taste of what you aren't supposed to know:

"Policy speeches are regularly made by members and guests, and the club privately boasts that the Manhattan Project was conceived on its grounds."

"He witnessed a speech -- "Smart Weapons" -- by former Navy Secretary John Lehman, who stated that the Pentagon estimates that 200,000 Iraqis were killed by the U.S. and its allies during the Gulf War... Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Pays", and former Attorney General Elliott Richardson on "Defining the New World Order"."

"When Associated Press president Louis Boccardi spoke at one of the Grove's "Lakeside Talks" about kidnapped reporter Terry Anderson (Spy, 11/89), he referred to his audience as men of "power and rank" and "gave them more details than he said he was willing to give his readers.""

You see? The average person will be told a different story from what those in the know are told. Your version of reality is flawed with disinformation. You should demand your media cover this information rather than the stupid human interest stories like missing children.

There has been a small MOCKUMENTARY about Bohemian Grove, called "Teddy Bears' Picnic".
source: http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=48816

Instead of Bohemian Grove it's refered to as Zambesi Glen. I have not personally seen it but Alex Jones who infiltrated Bohemain grove and filmed the ritual says he is mocked in the movie as kooky conspiracy theorist. I have seen Alex Jones' film though. You can watch the video Alex Jones captured with hidden camera of the Cremation of Care ritual in front of a three story owl. It is the only film recording of the ritual that exists for public use on the face of the earth. Watch part or order it here:
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Here's a picture of Bohemian Grove from the Annals of the Bohemian Club (vol 7), 1987-1996:

source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/031404exclusivephotos.html


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_Nyx_
Interesting, but the story came out in 1991, though. I've never heard of this before. Is that picture from the hidden camera? It looks like a stage set to me.
babayagafamiliar
Well I have the vid, it's very weird but It could just be fratboy stupidity as opposed to evil macabre conspiracy.
turbonium
Alex Jones has had this video out for years. It shows just one aspect of what they really do at the Grove. A mock sacrifice of a child to "Molech", that big stupid friggin' owl at the back of your picture. These rituals start when they are in College or even before, with Skull & Bones (Yale), Cap & Gowns (Princeton) and various others.

They are sicko people with perverted satanistic/pagan rites. It's the way they groom the leaders in the military, politics, and big business. They reveal all their personal sexual history, do sex acts in a coffin, and are set up within "sex orgies" with young girls AND boys. They are then forever compromised into toeing the line once in positions of power.

You would be in shock if you knew all the names of who is involved in these things. It goes all the way to the top heirarchy in Gov't, Multinational Corporations, US Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and Special Forces groups. I'm starting a thread about Kay Griggs, wife of Marine Corp. Colonel George Griggs, for all the dirty details.
scoobysnack
Turbonium is right on. Listen to him, and I. We know what we are talking about.

Here's what some members have to say about the club:

"The Bohemian Grove -- which I attend, from time to time -- it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."
- Richard M. Nixon

11 Jun 1993 The Washington Times reports: "Presidential counsellor David Gergen resigned yesterday from the all-male Bohemian Club, three days after saying he would not run around naked at its annual Bohemian Grove encampment and insisting he would not quit. White House spokeswoman Dee Dee Myers announced the resignation along with Mr. Gergen's departure from 17 other interest groups, charities and public boards ranging from the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group and Council on Foreign Relations."

That Kay Griggs interview is very revealing. I can't wait for that to be talked about.

The picture is from the official year book. Here's the source:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/031404exclusivephotos.html
Pilgrim Shadow
I wouldn't deny Bohemian Grove is a high cabal monkey business, but I'm not convinced of some of the satanism and sex rumors.
Unless they're all threatened with imminent death for the rest of their lives, why has none of the children used in the sex rituals spoken up?
dmgspycat
QUOTE(scoobysnack @ Jun 24 2005, 07:20 PM)
Anyone heard of Bohemian Grove? This is a club that decides what will be in the headlines in the comming year. It's so secret, you as the average citezen are not supposed to know about it. Even when journalists sneek in to get the scoop, it never gets past the editor because the heads of major media are also members. Just like Bilderberg which is another version where the future is discussed in secret and information talked about behind closed doors doesn't match what is told to the public. The bohemians will be meeting this July again as they meet every year in front of a three story carved owl.

Here is a link from F.A.I.R (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting) it's a must read!

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1489

Inside Bohemian Grove
The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read

Here's a taste of what you aren't supposed to know:

"Policy speeches are regularly made by members and guests, and the club privately boasts that the Manhattan Project was conceived on its grounds."

"He witnessed a speech -- "Smart Weapons" -- by former Navy Secretary John Lehman, who stated that the Pentagon estimates that 200,000 Iraqis were killed by the U.S. and its allies during the Gulf War... Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Pays", and former Attorney General Elliott Richardson on "Defining the New World Order"."

"When Associated Press president Louis Boccardi spoke at one of the Grove's "Lakeside Talks" about kidnapped reporter Terry Anderson (Spy, 11/89), he referred to his audience as men of "power and rank" and "gave them more details than he said he was willing to give his readers.""

You see? The average person will be told a different story from what those in the know are told. Your version of reality is flawed with disinformation. You should demand your media cover this information rather than the stupid human interest stories like missing children.

There has been a small MOCKUMENTARY about Bohemian Grove, called "Teddy Bears' Picnic".
source: http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=48816

Instead of Bohemian Grove it's refered to as Zambesi Glen. I have not personally seen it but Alex Jones who infiltrated Bohemain grove and filmed the ritual says he is mocked in the movie as kooky conspiracy theorist. I have seen Alex Jones' film though. You can watch the video Alex Jones captured with hidden camera of the Cremation of Care ritual in front of a three story owl. It is the only film recording of the ritual that exists for public use on the face of the earth. Watch part or order it here:
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Here's a picture of Bohemian Grove from the Annals of the Bohemian Club (vol 7), 1987-1996:

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You would think that if Bin Laden was a real boogeyman he would have struck Bohemian Grove instead of killing 3000 innocent secretaries and janitors and police and firemen from the Trade Center...right? Who more responsible for the demise of the Middle East than the Oil and Energy Cartels?
scoobysnack
QUOTE(Pilgrim Shadow @ Jun 26 2005, 04:18 AM)
I wouldn't deny Bohemian Grove is a high cabal monkey business, but I'm not convinced of some of the satanism and sex rumors.
Unless they're all threatened with imminent death for the rest of their lives, why has none of the children used in the sex rituals spoken up?
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You're asking the wrong question. People have come forward to tell their story. Many of course are scared for thier lives if they arn't already dead.

The question you should be asking is "why haven't I heard of this before?"

The people doing these type of things are some of the richest, most powerful and influential people in the country and in some cases the planet. Not only do they control the media but they are usually above the law and able to keep it quiet. Those who do report on it in the main stream media for the masses will either lose their job, buisness, and extreme cases thier life.

Have you heard of the Jeff Gannon homosexual prostitution scandal or Hunter Thompson suicide? It was big news a short while ago. Unless you read the independent news you could have missed it. Here you can read all about it...

Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch, Hunter Thompson, and Bohemian Grove snuff porn

snuff porn


Another very important story on how mind control is used to keep the sex slaves quiet. This is very revealing:

Mind Kontrol

I haven't done much to much research into the second one but it is deffinetly worth your time to read it.
Pilgrim Shadow
It's just that Bohemian Grove is exactly the kind of thing people make up when they make up conspiracies among the rich and powerful.
It's like finding out the Freemasons really do run the world!
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unknown
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/be...gallery_02.html
"To purge himself of worldly concerns, a member of the elite Bohemian Club participated in a 1915 Cremation of Care ceremony—complete with candles and a robed and hooded comrade to guide him. This private club of influential men still meets annually north of San Francisco and uses this symbolic ritual to kick off its summer retreat. But today the ceremony involves burning a mummy-like effigy named Care at the foot of the group’s mascot: a 40-foot-tall (12-meter-tall) concrete owl."

This was taken from what many believe is a respected magazine. If this is what they write in a popular magazine, I wonder what realy goes on there.

David Gergen has been mentioned in this thread.
http://www.davidgergen.com/

I think some of you would be interested on seeing this interview with Alex Jones.
http://www.infowars.com/video/previews/martial_law/wm_bb.htm

http://www.fathers.ca/david_gergen.htm
This is an interesting page too. Many believe that the 4th plane that was shot down over PA was heading to the congress building. Then the meaning 'belly of the beast' would have a much better meaning.
babayagafamiliar
The sex/orgy/pagan sacrifice bit is a proven fact. The only thing remaining is if the people who frequent the grove are "Illuminati" or just dumb fratboys blowing off some steam (ahem...if you can call it that of course). As for Masons... only those in the 33rd degree really see what's happening. Albert Pike was a Satanist and traitor, that's also proven fact. Of course I highly doubt masons rule the world lol!
PadawanOsswe
masons are not satanists!
turbonium
From link below
It is important to STRESS that not all Masons worship Lucifer, only the top 5% do.

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]

"When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare." [Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff , Forward by Reynold E. Blight, 33rd Degree, K.T., Illustrations by J. Augustus Knapp, 32nd Degree, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, p. 48; Emphasis Added]


Freemasonry Secrets
Another link here Albert Pike
Sunofone
this first image was dated 1909--considering the racial inequity of the time its clear that the black man probably met a grim fate--
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and this is likely not an act nor an effigy
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turbonium
Those pics look like those early 1900's "gathering of the Klan" photos - except without the hoods!
scoobysnack
UPDATE!

"Weaving spiders come not here" Bohemian Club motto

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On July 15, 2005 the all male American establishment started meeting for the 125th time in northern California at the Bohemia club for a two week no morals vacation. Members of Bohemian Grove include George H.W. Bush as well as his son the current President, top corporate leaders from such industries as the military, pharmaceutical, oil, entertainment, and name a rich Republican. It's a place for all the men in the relative same place on the social ladder to get together and have a good ol' time. It's not allowed to be talked about in the major media. Only one person has ever infiltrated it and came out with hidden camera footage - Alex Jones

Here's what some members have to say about Bohemian Grove:

"The upper class of San fransisco is that way, the Bohemian Grove that I attend, from time to time -- it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. It's just terrible I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco. It's a different set of values" --Richard M. Nixon

You can listen to him say it yourself at this site. On the left hand side about 1/3 down the page look for Richard Nixon on Bohemian Grove


The 1993 June 11th Washington Times reports: "Presidential counsellor David Gergen resigned yesterday from the all-male Bohemian Club, three days after saying he would not run around naked at its annual Bohemian Grove encampment and insisting he would not quit. White House spokeswoman Dee Dee Myers announced the resignation along with Mr. Gergen's departure from 17 other interest groups, charities and public boards ranging from the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group and Council on Foreign Relations."

You can watch Alex Jones confront David Gergen about that quote, in his latest documentry Martial Law, and Gergan gets pissed and in Alex's face.

See an excerpt here:
http://www.infowars.com/martial_law/index.htm

Here is a link from F.A.I.R (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting) it's a must read!

Inside Bohemian Grove
The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1489


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see who's in the picture from the Annals of the Bohemian Club (vol 7), 1987-1996:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/031404exclusivephotos.html

This is also good:
http://www.freepressinternational.com/bohemian_grove.html

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If anyone is in the California area, they can join the Bohemian Grove Protest July 15-17 2005 "Camp In Monti Rio California

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/1716369.php


Here's the official site to the Sonoma country free press that keeps an eye on Bohemian Grove each year:

http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/bohoindx.html w00t.gif
riotboy555
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You can watch Alex Jones confront David Gergen about that quote, in his latest documentry Martial Law, and Gergan gets pissed and in Alex's face.

See an excerpt here:
http://www.infowars.com/martial_law/index.htm


I saw that clip, and must say that it's cool what he's doing. You wouldn't happen to have the full clip of him on C-Span, would you?
scoobysnack
QUOTE(riotboy555 @ Jul 17 2005, 10:10 PM)
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You can watch Alex Jones confront David Gergen about that quote, in his latest documentry Martial Law, and Gergan gets pissed and in Alex's face.

See an excerpt here:
http://www.infowars.com/martial_law/index.htm


I saw that clip, and must say that it's cool what he's doing. You wouldn't happen to have the full clip of him on C-Span, would you?
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Why yes I do, or at least one of them. You can actually watch the entire movie for free on the internet or download it at this site. You will also find a ton of other revealing videos to watch as well:

http://www.supportthetruth.com/

Look for Martial Law at the top. The C-SPAN clip is on part two.

I would highly recommend buying it in DVD quality here:

http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/nemalaw9riof.html

or

http://martiallaw911.info/
riotboy555
QUOTE(scoobysnack @ Jul 18 2005, 03:29 AM)
QUOTE(riotboy555 @ Jul 17 2005, 10:10 PM)
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You can watch Alex Jones confront David Gergen about that quote, in his latest documentry Martial Law, and Gergan gets pissed and in Alex's face.

See an excerpt here:
http://www.infowars.com/martial_law/index.htm


I saw that clip, and must say that it's cool what he's doing. You wouldn't happen to have the full clip of him on C-Span, would you?
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Why yes I do, or at least one of them. You can actually watch the entire movie for free on the internet or download it at this site. You will also find a ton of other revealing videos to watch as well:

http://www.supportthetruth.com/

Look for Martial Law at the top. The C-SPAN clip is on part two.

I would highly recommend buying it in DVD quality here:

http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/nemalaw9riof.html

or

http://martiallaw911.info/
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Thanks. And God bless America.
Me_Again
Hi scoobysnack,
Thanks for repling in the other thread- I was off topic tongue.gif
I sure hope that we can stop what is yet to come. My mother was schizophrenic, so when I read stories about satanism in politics or NWO matters, I try no to become to paranoid w00t.gif unsure.gif huh.gif
It is alot to absorb and I just pray that everything will be OK. I think that most people don't want to believe it could be true and when you hear the word conspiracy - well it just doens't ring right in people's ear's.
I wonder if someone could sneek into the Boheim Grove ph34r.gif
I think we should get the Yes Men on it rght away thumbsup.gif
And another thought - aren't there less of them and more of us....they should be the scared ones rofl.gif
In all things - light and love and thanks for listening , Me_Again wub.gif
darkmoonlady
Also lets not forget that there is considerable evidence of a child prostitution ring that so far has been left unprosecuted. Google a video called "conspiracy of silence" it was a documentary that was supposed to have aired in the discovery channel but was bought out and supposedly all copies were to have been destroyed, however a copy made to a senator in the state where the crimes in the video took place and it has now made it to the internet. The bohemian grove is not mentioned in the video but more than one of the children (now adults) who were abused over and over again, had testified that they had been flown in and out of the bohemian grove for the use of high ranking politicians and their friends. The story was killed the witnesses discredited and in one case jailed under the highest purgery sentence in that state. Despite the fact that these children had perfect recall of being given tours of the whitehouse in areas off limits to the public, during multiple visits to washington dc for child sex parties with politicians. The bohemian grove is also Ungoogle-able on the satellite feature. Makes you wonder what they don't want you to know that goes on there.
Nlt_Overman
The Bohemian Grove is a private organization and fraternity for the Political Elite, and a gentlemen's club, which meet together at least once a year. So what? Why is it so surprising, and what's wrong with it?

The United States of America was not founded in the name of "God", nor was it founded on Christian values (despite what such fundamentalist would like the world to believe). The United States of America is a pluralistic, secular country. Our founding fathers' were largely Masonic, and Satanic if you will, including George Washington. Benjamin Franklin himself frequently participated in drunken orgies, black masses, and ridicule of Christianity while in England, at the Hellfire Club.

Its always been a hard fact for Americans, whom are largely of Christian denomination, to accept the fact that their leaders aren't like them, or that America in-fact was not created in the name of their "God". They would also dispute the fact that such people like Washington was a Christian, and that this country was founded as such, they're liars. Then again, there are those whom know the facts. Yet, they are also largely Christian fundmentalist nuts whom everytime they see a fraternity or group of politicians whom aren't Christians, immediately start shouting absurd stories of "what they might be doing."
Rhomphaia
Blah, blah, blah...Tell us something new already.
Rhomphaia
I retract that last statement, but still, it illustrates my frustration at all of this.
We all 'know' it exists, we all 'know' what goes on there, so why go around circle-jerking the same information over and over again? No wonder this is called a conspiracy theory.
a_blue_fish
QUOTE(turbonium @ Jun 25 2005, 05:40 PM)
Alex Jones has had this video out for years. It shows just one aspect of what they really do at the Grove. A mock sacrifice of a child to "Molech", that big stupid friggin' owl at the back of your picture. These rituals start when they are in College or even before, with Skull & Bones (Yale), Cap & Gowns (Princeton) and various others.
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When you said 'Molech' I, being the psycho Buffy fan I am, thought of Moloch, the demon from season 1 or 2 (Sadly can't remember which, haven't watched them in a LOONG time) that was in the computer because Willow scanned it in accidentally. That episode amuses me to no end.... I'll stop with my randomness now.
Gmac1000
It is said that this is the haven for all corporate and politcal leaders, iI don't want to list allot of members or sites for that matter, concidering that know one believes anything anymore and they are very easy to find.


I just want to know your thoughts, and have anyone ever heard of this society?
Mr. Blonde
I was gonna mention the Conspiracy Of Silence video but its already been mentioned. That thing was damn brutal. no.gif
scoobysnack
QUOTE(Rhomphaia @ Jul 19 2005, 04:53 AM)
I retract that last statement, but still, it illustrates my frustration at all of this.
We all 'know' it exists, we all 'know' what goes on there, so why go around circle-jerking the same information over and over again? No wonder this is called a conspiracy theory.
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I originally posted this information about Bohemian Grove becuase most people I know personaly have never heard about it. Maybe most of the people who frequent this conspiracy thread or are very aware of the world elite, but the average person has no clue.

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From page 243 (in 1991) German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt addresses the elite of the world at a lakeside talk. Helmut Schmidt, in his own autobiography, "Men and Powers, a Political Retrospective, says that he is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilberberg group. He also says that he has been an active participant in bringing in world government. Mr. Schmidt also said in his book that leaders from globalist bodies travel to the Grove every summer. He talks about secret groves in Germany where they do druidic rituals, but indicates that Bohemian Grove is his favorite place to participate in these rituals.

http://www.infowars.com/exclusive_new_bg.htm
bboy
QUOTE(Nlt_Overman @ Jul 19 2005, 02:17 AM)
Its always been a hard fact for Americans, whom are largely of Christian denomination, to accept the fact that their leaders aren't like them, or that America in-fact was not created in the name of their "God". They would also dispute the fact that such people like Washington was a Christian, and that this country was founded as such, they're liars. Then again, there are those whom know the facts. Yet, they are also largely Christian fundmentalist nuts whom everytime they see a fraternity or group of politicians whom aren't Christians, immediately start shouting absurd stories of "what they might be doing."
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I think what's hard is for those people who don't believe in God, to accept that this country was founded by mostly Christians. I'm not gonna say they all were, because I don't and you don't know. But I will tell you that Franklin WAS a Christian. Ever read any books about or by the founding fathers? If you did you would clearly see who the founding fathers were. My guess is your hatred for Christianity is clouding your vision, and you are bent at attacking anything of the like.
Faeden
I did a post a while ago about David Icke and his wacky theories, and was bashed into the ground, even though I agreed he was a lunatic. I have read about "bohemian grove" and about George Bush and other world leaders doing child sacrifices, and have seen people openly debating it as a real possibility, and no one has really said much about its sillyness.

I have an open mind but come on please......

I would also like to kindly ask that you not connect child rape, and child sacrifice, and Satanism with Paganism please, as I have very strong pagan beliefs, it is insulting. Do you home work, Paganism has nothing to do with Satanism, Anton Le Vey invented Satanism in the 60s, Paganism is 1000s of years old and has nothing to do with Satan or "owl headed Gods". Pagans might have scarified people in the distant past, but they do not any more, just as Christians do not burn people at the stake anymore, well not in the west anyway.

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Anyone heard of Bohemian Grove? This is a club that decides what will be in the headlines in the comming year. It's so secret, you as the average citezen are not supposed to know about it.


Its a good job we are not your average citizen then isn’t it? Phew!!! w00t.gif

All the best
Faeden
Gmac1000
Being a witch.. I am the first to say that Pagans have been related to satanism,other religions have wanted to seem that way for a very long time, but consider that satan was created by the Catholic church and pagans have been around allot longer, it is only common sense that they are not related other than fabricated stories by other religions...
Truth be told a real true witch is the exact opposite to satanic beliefs they are at true harmony with nature and life for that matter big or small important or non-and the fact that it is clear that the leaders of Bohemian Grove have no care for any life but their own just goes to show that they couldn't really be practising pagan rituals, not true ones anyway.


Gmac1000
QUOTE(Faeden @ Sep 3 2005, 12:23 AM)
I did a post a while ago about David Icke and his wacky theories, and was bashed into the ground, even though I agreed he was a lunatic. I have read about "bohemian grove" and about George Bush and other world leaders doing child sacrifices, and have seen people openly debating it as a real possibility, and no one has really said much about its sillyness.

I have an open mind but come on please......

I would also like to kindly ask that you not connect child rape, and child sacrifice, and Satanism with Paganism please, as I have very strong pagan beliefs, it is insulting. Do you home work, Paganism has nothing to do with Satanism, Anton Le Vey invented Satanism in the 60s, Paganism is 1000s of years old and has nothing to do with Satan or "owl headed Gods". Pagans might have scarified people in the distant past, but they do not any more, just as Christians do not burn people at the stake anymore, well not in the west anyway.

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Anyone heard of Bohemian Grove? This is a club that decides what will be in the headlines in the comming year. It's so secret, you as the average citezen are not supposed to know about it.


Its a good job we are not your average citizen then isn’t it? Phew!!! w00t.gif

All the best
Faeden
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To answer the child sacrifice......
Your right Faeden it has nothing to do with pagan rituals but that would be the most shallow way for somone to discribe the Grove.
As you may or may not kno that the 30 foot stone owl that they worship is of course Moloch and Moloch is... "King". The sun god of the Canaanites (Ammonites?) in old Palestine and sometimes associated with the Sumerian Baal, although Moloch (or Molekh) was entirely malevolent. In the 8th-6th century BCE, firstborn children were sacrificed to him by the Israelites in the Valleye of Hinnom, south-east of Jerusalem (see also Gehenna). These sacrifices to the sun god were made to renew the strength of the sun fire. This ritual was probably borrowed from surrounding nations, and was also popular in ancient Carthage.

Moloch was represented as a huge bronze statue with the head of a bull. The statue was hollow, and inside there burned a fire which colored the Moloch a glowing red. Children were placed on the hands of the statue. Through an ingenious system the hands were raised to the mouth (as if Moloch were eating) and the children fell into the fire where they were consumed by the flames. The people gathered before the Moloch were dancing on the sounds of flutes and tambourines to drown out the screams of the victims.

According to some sources, the Moloch in the Old Testament is not a god, but a specific form of sacrifice.





The officials at the Grove say that the sacrifices that take place there are "Mock" so why even have them.
scoobysnack
The author of the book, Them: Adventures With Extremists used to make fun of "conspiracy theorists" because he didn't know anything about them, so he decided to learn, and now he's exposing the establishment for what it is with his new book The Men Who Stare at Goats. This is no joke!

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Mainstream Book Highlights Occult Practices of US Establishment

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | September 4 2005

A new book by an author that had previously scoffed at claims that the US establishment was involved in bizarre occult practices at Bohemian Grove has now released a bestselling book that relates how those same practices evolved over three decades and are still being used today.

Jon Ronson will be known to many readers of this website as the filmmaker who documented Alex Jones' infiltration of Bohemian Grove in July 2000. The program was part of a series called Secret Rulers of the World which aired first in the UK and then multiple times in the US on the Trio Network.

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scoobysnack
The great thing about investigating Bohemian Grove is that it is all true and is stranger then any book you could write or movie you would see.

Kay Griggs is the former wife of Colonel George Griggs who was a Marine Corps Chief of Staff, as well as head of NATO's Psychological Operations. Her husband was also, she realized, entirely mind-controlled. Kay, a self-declared Christian, became privy to the real workings of the United States military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins.

Kay Griggs talking about Germans who came over to America after WWII, infiltrated into the military, and positions of power and took with them the most perverted aspects of Nazi Germany using weird homosexual mind control acts. They nurture/cultivate--the sons of prominent families called "rising stars." and then "turn" them. Put them in positions of power and use blackmail to influence and corrupt them. Bohemian Grove is one place among many where they do these things. No wonder they like to keep it secret!

http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/

I transcribed part of the interview between Pastor Rick Strawcutter and Kay Griggs:

Kay Griggs: What they were doing was pedophilia, they were raping, bringing in little boys, they involved the catholic priests, you know, who were bringing in. Anyway, so um, but what happened was ,this whole group came over to the United States, and they um, it's an old culture, but it is the reason there's a lot of things going on with children these days. And it explains why it is all being covered up because if you've got police officers who are playing these games, and there going in the woods, like to uh. what is this place where they, I mean even Eisenhower played these games even Mike Kemp out in um, it's called the hermitage, in California where they all get drunk ,run around nude in the woods and stuff.

Pastor Rick Strawcutter: Bohemian grove kinda of thing?

Kay Griggs: That's it, Bohemian Grove.

Pastor Rick Strawcutter: Rather than the hermitage, it's the Bohemian Grove?

Kay Griggs: Bohemian Grove, that's the name of it, my brains tired. (laughs)

Pastor Rick Strawcutter: That's OK

Kay Griggs: And the one, in uh there was a big one in Washington called Rush River lodge, where they used to all go, and there are lots of places now. But the problem as I see it is that I think they are trying to destroy America.

Download to watch the whole two hour video interview

Part 1 - http://www.erichufschmid.net/Griggs_part_1.wmv
Part 2 - http://www.erichufschmid.net/Griggs_part_2.wmv

or there's this:
http://cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/6867/Kay_Griggs...Ops_Underground

http://www.hugequestions.com/

And, so those who dare, may know truth here is huge library of must watch videos. You will never see the world in the same way again. That's a promise!

http://www.supportthetruth.com/
SoLLiZ
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Jun 28 2005, 08:44 AM)
this first image was dated 1909--considering the racial inequity of the time its clear that the black man probably met a grim fate--
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and this is likely not an act nor an effigy
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something about the "lynching" photo just doesn't add up to me. first, it looks like the body being hung has no hands, maybe i just don't see them, i dont know. second, maybe it's the wide brimmed hat, but the head looks kind of small to me.
SoLLiZ
also, the head shouldn't hang down like that on a normal body. look at the gallows. the body was pulled up, chocking the person. he wasn't dropped like you see in the movies where the neck can be broken. his head should be upright, not hanging down like a wet noodle.

and on the topic of racism in this time period that was mentioned, does that look like a native american near the head of the blackman, directly to the left.

also, why put a hat on him before hanging him?
plumkrazy
QUOTE(SoLLiZ @ Sep 15 2005, 05:47 AM)
also, the head shouldn't hang down like that on a normal body. look at the gallows. the body was pulled up, chocking the person. he wasn't dropped like you see in the movies where the neck can be broken. his head should be upright, not hanging down like a wet noodle.

and on the topic of racism in this time period that was mentioned, does that look like a native american near the head of the blackman, directly to the left.

also, why put a hat on him before hanging him?
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How do you know his head is not upright? The hat might not be on his head but over his face.

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SoLLiZ
still, that doesn't explain why he has no hands, or why his feet are sticking out instead of pointing down, which would be instinct. i think the picture is not an actually lynching
plumkrazy
To me it looks like he has a right hand, but the left hand is not there, which is very interesting. And it also looks like he is wearing cowboy boots or something which could possibly explain why his feet are not pointed down from dead weight.
SoLLiZ
even in boots, his feet should have more of a downward angle, it's just instinct taking over to find ground to support yourself. i still don't see the right hand. who knows, maybe the picture is real, i just don't think it is.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(scoobysnack @ Sep 14 2005, 11:35 PM)
The great thing about investigating Bohemian Grove is that it is all true and is stranger then any book you could write or movie you would see. 

Kay Griggs is the former wife of Colonel George Griggs who was a Marine Corps Chief of Staff, as well as head of NATO's Psychological Operations. Her husband was also, she  realized, entirely mind-controlled. Kay, a self-declared Christian, became privy to the real workings of the United States military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins.

Kay Griggs talking about Germans who came over to America after WWII, infiltrated into the military, and positions of power and took with them the most perverted aspects of Nazi Germany  using weird homosexual mind control acts. They nurture/cultivate--the sons of prominent families called "rising stars." and then "turn" them.  Put them in positions of power and use blackmail to influence and corrupt them.  Bohemian Grove is one place among many where they do these things.  No wonder they like to keep it secret!

http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/

I transcribed part of the interview between Pastor Rick Strawcutter and Kay Griggs:

Kay Griggs:  What they were doing was pedophilia, they were raping, bringing in little boys, they involved the catholic priests, you know, who were bringing in.  Anyway, so um, but what happened was ,this whole group came over to the United States, and they um, it's an old culture, but it is the reason there's a lot of things going on with children these days.  And it explains why it is all being covered up because if you've got police officers who are playing these games, and there going in the woods, like to uh. what is this place where they, I mean even Eisenhower played these games even Mike Kemp out in um, it's called the hermitage,  in California where they all get drunk ,run around nude in the woods and stuff.

Pastor Rick StrawcutterBohemian grove kinda of thing?

Kay GriggsThat's it, Bohemian Grove.

Pastor Rick Strawcutter:  Rather than the hermitage, it's the Bohemian Grove?

Kay GriggsBohemian Grove, that's the name of it, my brains tired. (laughs)

Pastor Rick Strawcutter:  That's OK

Kay Griggs:  And the one, in uh there was a big one in Washington called Rush River lodge, where they used to all go, and there are lots of places now.  But the problem as I see it is that I think they are trying to destroy America.

Download to watch the whole two hour video interview

Part 1 - http://www.erichufschmid.net/Griggs_part_1.wmv
Part 2 - http://www.erichufschmid.net/Griggs_part_2.wmv

or there's this:
http://cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/6867/Kay_Griggs...Ops_Underground

http://www.hugequestions.com/

And, so those who dare, may know truth here is huge library of must watch videos.  You will never see the world in the same way again.  That's a promise!

http://www.supportthetruth.com/
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This woman is a nut. She sounds schizophrenic to me. I should know, because my mother is. She makes no sense at all. This is just a woman that has lost her mind and some conspiracy theroist choose to believe. She is not credible in the least. In fact, I can't believe anyone would put this woman up as credible. If your basing your belief on people like this , then perhaps you need some help too. Her mannerisms are clearly schizophrenic. It is pitiful.
Sunofone
QUOTE(SoLLiZ @ Sep 16 2005, 09:32 PM)
  who knows, maybe the picture is real, i just don't think it is.
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those pics came from the grove's own annals
babayagafamiliar
Mock human sacrifice DOES happen in the Bohemian Grove. That is NOT debatable. It's been caught on tape, it's been printed in the annals of the Grove, Alex Jones documents it every year, it's simply non-debatable. The issue at stake is if this a group of big wigs blowing off steam every year in a frat boy club OR a bunch of cultists doing a sinister initiation ritual for their new members. Either way, the creamation of Pyre ritual happens every year whether you like it or not. I honestly believe Alex Jones blew this way out of proportions- this is frat boy idiocy at best, not some sinister Uber conspiracy to take over the world. Still it's disconcerting.
Sunofone
QUOTE(babayagafamiliar @ Sep 17 2005, 11:15 AM)
this is frat boy idiocy at best, not some sinister Uber conspiracy to take over the world. Still it's disconcerting.
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right and we're "really" a sovereign a country --you need to read this thread--especially the books mentioned within them--ill make it easy for you and include direct links--
NWO thread
Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
The Age of Reason by thomas Paine

SoLLiZ
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Sep 17 2005, 12:00 PM)
QUOTE(SoLLiZ @ Sep 16 2005, 09:32 PM)
  who knows, maybe the picture is real, i just don't think it is.
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those pics came from the grove's own annals
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that doesn't mean it is a pic of a real lynching. i still think it is a dummy
cryztalwing
here's an old photo's of thier owl shrine...
cryztalwing
some more photo's....
cryztalwing
few more...
cryztalwing
some more photo's...
cryztalwing
a map of bohemian grove...
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