Is this for real??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

I can't beleive people actually beleive this stuff.
Any "scientologists" on this forum?

That is truly weird Thanks for that info, I never knew scientology had this crackpot history behind it (if it is indeed true). Why would anyone believe that is beyond me.

BTW, I'm no scientologist and if I had a choice between that and the bible I'd take the bible any day, although I don't believe that crackpot story either Why are people so gullible ?

I think people choose to beleive such nonsense to be aside from others and to make a statement. Perhaps depending on such a bizarre concept is what gives them hope in life.

lol, this is supposed to be the aircraft that the mighty alien "Xenu" used to transport the billions of humans to earth:

Yep, I found that very funny too Very sophisticated - NOT. I guess they used flaps to steer it through space
And they transported billions of people in those things - and then they just burn up on re-entry...

No wonder Hubbard wanted to keep this story secret - 1) no one would join 2) his new living quarters would be a padded room (it still should be) 3) .... (fill in blanks) 4) ......(fill in blanks)

lol

Plus, isn't it a little ironic that he's a science fiction writer??

Celebrities turn to Scientology because it feeds their egos. Seriously, members are told that they're "special" and somehow more important than the rest of the population.

The fact that it's wack-job-off-his-meds-actor Tom Cruise's religion of choice kind of tells me all I need to know about the religion.

Listen to this:



Hubbard's figured it out, all mental illness and human imperfection is caused by alien souls hiding out in our skin. Pack up your bags and go, no need to look further into solving anything.

Scientology is the funniest thing, ever.

I remember as a teen walking down the city street on my way to work when i was approached by this rather hunky dood lol

Anyway he was a scientologist - but i didnt hold that against him I thought he was cute

Anyway in my impulsiveness I decided to follow him up a flight of steps into a dingy room - where my nerves started to shake somewhat

Then he wanted to do so types of tests with wires and sh** on my head.

hmmmm - RUN RUN RUN .... and I didnt look back! lmao.

Freaky!

My God, they never tried that with me! Yeah, i was stopped in the street by one of their minons once with a clipboard; they give you the "If wonder if you'd have time for a survey?" line, then try to talk you into coming back to their office so thye can talk about these issues in more depth; they're clever in that they seem to target their 'victims'. I was pretty lacking in self-confidence then, and their 'questionnaire' picked up on that and they must have decided that I'd be a suitable victim/subject. All they tried to do with me was do the high pressure salesmanship bit to sell me their four inch thick, impentetrable book though; but i stupidly gave them my name and address, so they hassled me with unsolicited mail for several months afterwards till I just sent the stuff back saying 'not known at this address'.

And that is my I-was-nearly-indoctrinated-into-a-dodgy-pseudo-religion story.

(p.s. How on earth did McDonnell Douglas allow themselves to get taken over by Boeing, if the DC-8 was so advanced it was able to fly in space??!!)

(Oh yes, another thing:

L. Ron died a few years ago, but they keep an office for him as a sort of shrine at all the Churches of Scientology, just in case he decides to pop in. )

one of the church's more outgoing members,tom cruise,got into it bigtime argument friday during an interview segment with matt lauer.anybody see that???

I did. Cruise denied that scientology had anything to do with UFO's or Gods from space. He was quite upset.

Tom Cruise was wrong. See link at top of page.

Actually L. Ron Hubbard may not be dead..They never positively identified the body that was supposed to be his..
Oooh! Spooky!! Maybe he's riding around in a spaeceship now..
Seriously though; L. Ron never took his fake religion seriously; I actually heard he invented it after making a bet about being able to create his own religion with Robert Heinlein..
And apparently he did too good of a job with it, to judge by the wackmobile's we see today..

I'm pretty sure he started it to scam celebrities into shelling over their cash. It costs thousands of dollars to take their courses, and members are encouraged to donate huge sums of money towards the 'cause'.

I mean, really -- what basis did he have for any of his claims? Either he was completely nuts, or a brilliant scam-artist -- or both.

My favourite part is how they tell you that anyone who tells you otherwise is beneath you, and they are just obsticles in the way of your spiritual enlightenment.... So to distance yourself from friends and familys....

So.. its a choice between my dad..... or battlefield earth..... You lose scientology...

^and the entire idealogy has to be kept secret because L. Ron Hubbard created the religion as a joke.

So... the real question is, are Tom Cruise and John Travolta really dumb enough to fall for this, or are they in on it?

Oh my, I have had one of their 'tests' before. It was at this street festival, they had this tent set up and I was curious ( Ohhhhh no, you know what they say abut curiosity). Anyway his man hooked up some kind of meter reading thingy...and I don't remember much else about it At least it was free

L. Ron Hubbard isn't a scam artist, just a total nut. He thinks tomatoes scream when you slice them, and he tried to invade Madagascar and take it for himself (and declare himself king) through his Yacht. No joke.

I'd like to take this thread further by discussing Scientology with an actual Scientologist. Are there any on this forum? We promise not to flame or put you down; that will be reported.

Id like to thank Socrates for pointing out the obvious, since NOBODY on the forum should get this treatment, regardless of their value systems.....

So thankyou Socrate's for making a special point to tell them tey have rights, which are equal to everyone elses lol

LMAO

I am king of Madagascar!

yeah that is a question wether or not Travolta and Cruise actaully belive this.

They beleive in the "clear" stuff (that if you use a crude lie detector everyday you will have superpowers). I'd grab a copy of Dianetics- to see what Cruise beleives in (he distributes free copies of the book like crazy, so he's got to beleive in it). Hubbard also talked about an "alien entity" called a "Theta" which lives in human beings and leaves them at death. He claimed it was the soul.

GREAT article on Dianetics by Gardner (I hate Gardner- he's always wrong and think's he's the top dog while only being a dumb hack, but he's at least right on Hubbard):

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/People/dst/Library/Shelf/gardner/

Ah I missed the interview and I'm pretty pissed about it. I really wanted to see him attempt to brainwash viewers.

I would agree that the book is worth getting hold of for comedy value; that, or propping a door open.

OMG... these people are frickin wack jobs. Some people just plain out scare me

Listening to TOm say that psychiatry was built on lies and deception... I wanted to ask him which galaxy he thinks h's from....

Of course, with all that said; if you're willing to let John Travolta or Tom Cruise give you advice on spirituality, you probably deserve what you get..

After watching Mission Impossible 2... I wouldn't let tom Cruise give me advise on what popcorn tastes nice.....
lol

HEhehehehehehe...good one!!!

wow i have always wondered what scientology was really all about, what a joke how can they call this a religion sounds more like a cult,

While i don;t like religeon,any kind of it.

There little bits in every one which i do find appealing.
Scientology for instance about the whole psycology thing and not taking pills.
Becuase nowadays people are only looking for the quick fix.

If your fat(Stomach stapples)
Ugly(Plastic surgery)
Depressed(Pills)

lmfao.......... No wonder Tom Cruise gets so upset when people ask him simple questions about scientology!

I can't believe people believe in that crap. I don't usually knock anybodys' belief systems, but COME ON!!! What are these scientology guys smoking?!?!

lol.........I want to interview that arrogant punk Tom Cruise about this, just so I can see the embarrassed look on his face, lol

So what ever happened to this Galactic Confederacy?, lol.....shouldn't it still be in charge of Earth and the rest of the solar system, ect.....lol

So there are no Scientologists on the forums who are willing to be questioned? I will be entirely respectful, I promise. The fact you beleive in concepts which seem so bizarre to me interests me, thats all.

I dont think we should make fun of other peoples religion, as out-of-the-ordinary it sounds... But it is a kind of....weird belief

I promise to be respect you scientologists too. Nobody on the board that's a scientologist?

it is a weird belief and probably something Hubbard just made up but i dont think we should bash it just because it sounds ridiculious. If people can benefit from Scientology as far as being a better person i dont think its a bad thing... We really dont know how the universe works so all though its far fetched something like this could have occured and we would never know. The other parts of Scientology doesnt seem so bad you pretty much audit yourself to see whats wrong with you and try to improve yourself. Whats the harm in doing that. I can also see how this could be a cult. You get people to believe the less skeptical part and once they see you believe that part of it they reveal the more wierder parts thinking you have been conditioned enough to believe it.

Bwahahahaha.

Anyway, on a more sinister note... scientology was banned in Margaret Thatchers era as it had a history of malpractise.

A few miles away form my town is a large base of scientology, the biggest in England, and people come from all round the world to live with them. They have a trndency to select their members from previous drug addicts, alcoholics, problem-children and most other types you could name with difficulties. Many reports have been made that once these youths are inducted into the faith, the parents gradually have less and less contact with them, and are gradually phased out. The inducted youth is also obliged to give a certain amount of his earnings to the organisation. Some call it brainwashing.

Scientology was also banned in many countries on and off as time and time again it was deemed the faith was incredibly harmful psychologically, emotionally, and sociologically to a great number of people. However, due to it being so widespread they had no choice to allow it again.

This faith does not help anyone in my opinion... it is a sinister and clandestine movement which preys on vulnerable people.

This is all info you can find around the net with some Google searches.

all i have to say about this crap is...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahagagahsgadgdagahahhahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahah!!!!




we've got to find someone that believes this! i want to hear them explain

Please be respectful, or no one will speak out.

i'm sorry, i'll be good.

You are forgiven.

check ths out


http://www.xenu.net/

"Ron the Nut": that surely, says all that could possibly be said...

What the...?

You know, the thing with Tom Cruise bashing Brooke Shields for taking Paxil after her baby was born really burned me. This is a guy who has never had to deal with a woman having Postpardum depression (sp?). He and Nicole adopted their kids. It's hard enough having your life completely change, then add hormones going haywire trying to get back to normal. Yes, exercise and vitamins are good, but in some cases, it takes more than that. For him to say that post pardum depression doesn't exist and was made up is just ridiculous. So I decided to check out exactly what this "Scientology" is. I did a Google search, logged onto scientology.org, and clicked here, there, and everywhere. Guess what. They have the answers to EVERYTHING!

Do you need help with depression? click here. I click, and am prompted to buy the book.

Do you need help with relationships? click here. Click, buy book.

Everything on this site takes you back to "buy this book". This is why I can't take this seriously. It seems more like an agressive ad campaign for book sales to me.

they are a cult devoted to getting your money. the creator of this cult wrote that the best tactic is to attack anyone asking questions about their beliefs. in others words, we know are religion is based on a sci fi book, so just redirect the topic. He called it deadening or something stupid like that.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=11427

Quote from above website

Tom on Katie:
"Our chemistry has clicked. We are so alike. I believe I have found the right one. And I want more children."

I really do hope they get married and she has a baby. Let's see him try to solve her baby blues problem with vitamins.

If my husband told me there was nothing wrong and suggested exercise and vitamins, well, to borrow a quote from hubby himself,

"If he ain't dead, he ain't happy" (after severe altercation with household appliance)